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[TheWikdGamer]

I think I may have awakened a monster...In my mind this was supposed to be a peaceful change of opinions between Mass Effect fans...It has gone terribly wrong!

[SpectreSaren]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

SpectreSaren wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

graciegrace wrote...

"I consider Mass Effect 2 to be one of the best video games out there"

Then your standards are low enough to be pleased with anything Bioware ****s on a disc, don't worry.

LOL.

ME1 drones are hilarious to watch.

You know, I find it absolutely amazing how a series can turn the own fanbase against eachother based on the game they think is the best in the series. Truly, amazing.

ME2 > ME1.

Thats just fact.

In certain aspects. That's a statement I expect 95% of shooter fans (yes, I'm looking at all the closet CoD gamers) to make.

So now you are going to try to turn this into a RPG or shooter debate?  First of all Mass Effect is a hybrid series always has been.  Guess what, guns are in Mass Effect, a game with guns is going to have shooter elements to it.  You don't like that then deal with it.

Guns, nor combat, aren't 100% of the experience. A small percentage when you stop and think about it.

Graphics, story, exploration, atmosphere, music, voice acting. Somehow all of these things are left in the dust for combat? I think we all know what type of fan puts guns and combat over these: Call of Duty gamers.

In addition, ME1 is clearly more RPG driven, whereas ME2 was given the cosmetic changes to appeal more to shooters fans. Not trying to make a debate out of nothing, it's perfectly reasonable though considering.

Modifié par SpectreSaren, 12 février 2012 - 07:03 .

[Hunter of Legends]

SpectreSaren wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

SpectreSaren wrote...
 Much more appealing than Halo or Call of Duty, in my opinion.

Was your idea of fun as a child watching paint dry?

ME1 was horrible combat. Halo and CoD blow it out of the water.

My idea of fun as a child was playing on my SNES like anybody else currently in their twenties. Interesting you bring up childhood, though, since the vast majority of Halo and CoD fans haven't hit puberty yet.

TEABAGGING LIKE OMGS.

I'm 22.

So yeah, ME1's combat was neither fun nor challenging.

[BatmanPWNS]

I'll reply in March.

Edit- And ME1 better than ME2? HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Good joke, people, good joke.

Modifié par BatmanPWNS, 12 février 2012 - 07:03 .

[Candidate 88766]

TheWikdGamer wrote...

I think I may have awakened a monster...In my mind this was supposed to be a peaceful change of opinions between Mass Effect fans...It has gone terribly wrong!

Welcome to BSN.

[KotorEffect3]

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

graciegrace wrote...

"I consider Mass Effect 2 to be one of the best video games out there"

Then your standards are low enough to be pleased with anything Bioware ****s on a disc, don't worry.

LOL.

ME1 drones are hilarious to watch.

You know, I find it absolutely amazing how a series can turn the own fanbase against eachother based on the game they think is the best in the series. Truly, amazing.

I love both games but it seems like the people that can't get over their ME 1 nostalgia (the ones that were mad that ME 2 wasn't an ME 1 clone) are the ones always stirring up crap.  Not saying that applies to everyone that preffered ME 1 but it seems like most of these crap stirrers are from the "ME 1 was better camp"

[Hunter of Legends]

SpectreSaren wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

SpectreSaren wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

graciegrace wrote...

"I consider Mass Effect 2 to be one of the best video games out there"

Then your standards are low enough to be pleased with anything Bioware ****s on a disc, don't worry.

LOL.

ME1 drones are hilarious to watch.

You know, I find it absolutely amazing how a series can turn the own fanbase against eachother based on the game they think is the best in the series. Truly, amazing.

ME2 > ME1.

Thats just fact.

In certain aspects. That's a statement I expect 95% of shooter fans (yes, I'm looking at all the closet CoD gamers) to make.

So now you are going to try to turn this into a RPG or shooter debate?  First of all Mass Effect is a hybrid series always has been.  Guess what, guns are in Mass Effect, a game with guns is going to have shooter elements to it.  You don't like that then deal with it.

Guns, nor combat, aren't 100% of the experience. A small percentage when you stop and think about it.

Graphics, story, exploration, atmosphere, music, voice acting. Somehow all of these things are left in the dust for combat? I think we all know what type of fan puts guns and combat over these: Call of Duty gamers.

Who said anything about those not being there?

I just played the demo and the narrative is much better. Now you're just being  a hater.

[graciegrace]

Hunter of Legends wrote...

SpectreSaren wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

SpectreSaren wrote...
 Much more appealing than Halo or Call of Duty, in my opinion.

Was your idea of fun as a child watching paint dry?

ME1 was horrible combat. Halo and CoD blow it out of the water.

My idea of fun as a child was playing on my SNES like anybody else currently in their twenties. Interesting you bring up childhood, though, since the vast majority of Halo and CoD fans haven't hit puberty yet.

TEABAGGING LIKE OMGS.

I'm 22.

So yeah, ME1's combat was neither fun nor challenging.

And ME2's writing was niether logical nor well thought out.

I don't see your point.

[WizenSlinky0]

Hunter of Legends wrote...

ME2 > ME1.

Thats just fact.

You're 100% wrong. And I'm not saying ME1 is better than ME2, either.

Games are subjective. We all have our own personal preferences. You can say the combat was better overall in ME2 due to it being tighter and more fluid, sure. But you can not say which one is the better game without it being an opinion. Sorry.

[KotorEffect3]

SpectreSaren wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

SpectreSaren wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

graciegrace wrote...

"I consider Mass Effect 2 to be one of the best video games out there"

Then your standards are low enough to be pleased with anything Bioware ****s on a disc, don't worry.

LOL.

ME1 drones are hilarious to watch.

You know, I find it absolutely amazing how a series can turn the own fanbase against eachother based on the game they think is the best in the series. Truly, amazing.

ME2 > ME1.

Thats just fact.

In certain aspects. That's a statement I expect 95% of shooter fans (yes, I'm looking at all the closet CoD gamers) to make.

So now you are going to try to turn this into a RPG or shooter debate?  First of all Mass Effect is a hybrid series always has been.  Guess what, guns are in Mass Effect, a game with guns is going to have shooter elements to it.  You don't like that then deal with it.

Guns, nor combat, aren't 100% of the experience. A small percentage when you stop and think about it.

Graphics, story, exploration, atmosphere, music, voice acting. Somehow all of these things are left in the dust for combat? I think we all know what type of fan puts guns and combat over these: Call of Duty gamers.

In addition, ME1 is clearly more RPG driven, whereas ME2 was given the cosmetic changes to appeal more to shooters fans. Not trying to make a debate out of nothing, it's perfectly reasonable though considering.

I never said it was 100% of the game but you can't just cast it aside as a small part of the game.  Even in an RPG combat is important.

[SpectreSaren]

graciegrace wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

SpectreSaren wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

SpectreSaren wrote...
 Much more appealing than Halo or Call of Duty, in my opinion.

Was your idea of fun as a child watching paint dry?

ME1 was horrible combat. Halo and CoD blow it out of the water.

My idea of fun as a child was playing on my SNES like anybody else currently in their twenties. Interesting you bring up childhood, though, since the vast majority of Halo and CoD fans haven't hit puberty yet.

TEABAGGING LIKE OMGS.

I'm 22.

So yeah, ME1's combat was neither fun nor challenging.

And ME2's writing was niether logical nor well thought out.

I don't see your point.

He doesn't have one. Go figure.

I doubt he can even state why ME1's combat was "so terrible." I get the sense that he's a bandwagon player. Probably played ME2 before ME1, then looked at it and was like, "WTF IS THIS ****! WHERE'S MY COVER COMBAT! FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU"

Shooter fans really are adorable.

[DJBare]

As long as the combat/shooter elements are well done then it will be a great success, don't count on RPG/Story as those require "thinking" on the part of the player.

[KillTheLastRomantic]

The gameplay is already very similar to Mass Effect 2, with slight enhancements in all areas. All Mass Effect 3 has to do to top Mass Effect 2 is have a better plot than ME2's incredibly mediocre storyline. Not that hard.

[Hunter of Legends]

graciegrace wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

SpectreSaren wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

SpectreSaren wrote...
 Much more appealing than Halo or Call of Duty, in my opinion.

Was your idea of fun as a child watching paint dry?

ME1 was horrible combat. Halo and CoD blow it out of the water.

My idea of fun as a child was playing on my SNES like anybody else currently in their twenties. Interesting you bring up childhood, though, since the vast majority of Halo and CoD fans haven't hit puberty yet.

TEABAGGING LIKE OMGS.

I'm 22.

So yeah, ME1's combat was neither fun nor challenging.

And ME2's writing was niether logical nor well thought out.

I don't see your point.

Yes it was; you're just demonizing it to better your camps stance.

Go play MW3 for an illogical and poorly written story. Mass Effect 2's story was fine.

[BatmanPWNS]

Hunter of Legends wrote...

graciegrace wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

SpectreSaren wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

SpectreSaren wrote...
 Much more appealing than Halo or Call of Duty, in my opinion.

Was your idea of fun as a child watching paint dry?

ME1 was horrible combat. Halo and CoD blow it out of the water.

My idea of fun as a child was playing on my SNES like anybody else currently in their twenties. Interesting you bring up childhood, though, since the vast majority of Halo and CoD fans haven't hit puberty yet.

TEABAGGING LIKE OMGS.

I'm 22.

So yeah, ME1's combat was neither fun nor challenging.

And ME2's writing was niether logical nor well thought out.

I don't see your point.

Yes it was; you're just demonizing it to better your camps stance.

Go play MW3 for an illogical and poorly written story. Mass Effect 2's story was fine.

Actually I think MW3 has a pretty decent story but I doubt anyone here (except a minority) even have a single game other than RPG.

[Balek-Vriege]

Whatever happens Mass Effect 3 will be a financial success. The pre-orders alone have been tracking much, much higher (pretty much double if I remember correctly) than ME2 and by now are probably close to or above ME2's peak one week from release. It looks like it's going to be another Skyrim in terms of sales for an RPG.

Based on that no matter how many mistakes they make in ME3, there will be an ME spinoff at least. The fact that Mass Effect 3 improves on every aspect from Mass Effect 2 (which sold and got more critical accailm than Mass Effect 1 by the way), should be reason enough to have better sales after release compared to previous installments. Also the marketing blitz over the last 4 days with trailers seems to be very successful. Almost all the trailers had only likes on youtube last time I checked and the same goes for early access footage from demo players.

Things are looking good for Bioware town.

[Hunter of Legends]

SpectreSaren wrote...

graciegrace wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

SpectreSaren wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

SpectreSaren wrote...
 Much more appealing than Halo or Call of Duty, in my opinion.

Was your idea of fun as a child watching paint dry?

ME1 was horrible combat. Halo and CoD blow it out of the water.

My idea of fun as a child was playing on my SNES like anybody else currently in their twenties. Interesting you bring up childhood, though, since the vast majority of Halo and CoD fans haven't hit puberty yet.

TEABAGGING LIKE OMGS.

I'm 22.

So yeah, ME1's combat was neither fun nor challenging.

And ME2's writing was niether logical nor well thought out.

I don't see your point.

He doesn't have one. Go figure.

I doubt he can even state why ME1's combat was "so terrible." I get the sense that he's a bandwagon player. Probably played ME2 before ME1, then looked at it and was like, "WTF IS THIS ****! WHERE'S MY COVER COMBAT! FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU"

Shooter fans really are adorable.

I played ME1 first.

The combat was boring, repetitive and dull. No powers were ever needed even on Insanity.

The environments were poorly designed; AI just rushed you mindlessly and provided no stimulating combat.

Enemy power usage was predicatable and easy to counter.

The game was too easy; even on Insanity.

The pacing and gunplay was poorly done, slow, and very linear.

Need I say more hater-boy?

[Hunter of Legends]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

graciegrace wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

SpectreSaren wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

SpectreSaren wrote...
 Much more appealing than Halo or Call of Duty, in my opinion.

Was your idea of fun as a child watching paint dry?

ME1 was horrible combat. Halo and CoD blow it out of the water.

My idea of fun as a child was playing on my SNES like anybody else currently in their twenties. Interesting you bring up childhood, though, since the vast majority of Halo and CoD fans haven't hit puberty yet.

TEABAGGING LIKE OMGS.

I'm 22.

So yeah, ME1's combat was neither fun nor challenging.

And ME2's writing was niether logical nor well thought out.

I don't see your point.

Yes it was; you're just demonizing it to better your camps stance.

Go play MW3 for an illogical and poorly written story. Mass Effect 2's story was fine.

Actually I think MW3 has a pretty decent story but I doubt anyone here (except a minority) even have a single game other than RPG.

Decent meaning MASSIVE plot holes and horrible characters?

[DaringMoosejaw]

Hoo, more tribalism!

"Man, I really like using red-colored toothpaste. What? THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO USE BLUE-COLORED TOOTHPASTE?! What a bunch of retards! Red-colored toothpaste is obviously superior to blue-colored toothpaste, which I hear Hitler always enjoyed. People who enjoy using red-colored toothpaste are morally, genetically and sexually superior to those inbred blue-colored toothpaste monkeys."

Replace 'red' with 'blue' and vice-versa to get the other side of the argument, and that's about all this boils down to.

Modifié par DaringMoosejaw, 12 février 2012 - 07:17 .

[Zkyire]

Niemack Saarinen wrote...

So sayeth the magic 8 ball.

[KotorEffect3]

Hunter of Legends wrote...

graciegrace wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

SpectreSaren wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

SpectreSaren wrote...
 Much more appealing than Halo or Call of Duty, in my opinion.

Was your idea of fun as a child watching paint dry?

ME1 was horrible combat. Halo and CoD blow it out of the water.

My idea of fun as a child was playing on my SNES like anybody else currently in their twenties. Interesting you bring up childhood, though, since the vast majority of Halo and CoD fans haven't hit puberty yet.

TEABAGGING LIKE OMGS.

I'm 22.

So yeah, ME1's combat was neither fun nor challenging.

And ME2's writing was niether logical nor well thought out.

I don't see your point.

Yes it was; you're just demonizing it to better your camps stance.

Go play MW3 for an illogical and poorly written story. Mass Effect 2's story was fine.

The problem with them is that they can't get over their ME 1 nostaliga and they are so blinded by it they never gave ME 2 a chance.  Since they were so mad that ME 2 wasn't ME 1 2.0 they label anyone that loves ME 2 as "CoD gamer or shooter fan" even if the person that loves ME 2 was a big fan of ME 1 as well.

BTW there is nothing wrong with being a CoD or shooter fan.

[Hunter of Legends]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

BTW there is nothing wrong with being a CoD or shooter fan.

Unless you think they have good writing.

[robarcool]

I have a feeling this thread will eventually be locked.

[daftPirate]

Hunter of Legends wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

BTW there is nothing wrong with being a CoD or shooter fan.

Unless you think they have good writing.

Heh, I doubt if most shooter fans decieve themselves into thinking the writing is good. People play shooters for shooting, and come to Mass Effect when they want a good story.

[Raizo]

I think that from a commercial and gampley standpoint ME3 will be a massive success ( or at the very least it will do better than ME2 did ). From a storyline point of view ME3 is probably going to be received alot better than focused than ME2's half assed side mission storyline. Having said that I don't think ME3 will get as many awards or higher scores than ME2 did, I think the critics and the fans will be hardrer on ME3 than they were ME1 and ME2 since this is the end of the trilogy and of the franchise as we know it ( ME4=MMORPG or Call of Duty clone ) and everyone will be expecting Bioware to provide proper closure to the main story, give every single ME character ( all the ME1, ME2, ME3 squadmates and all the ME NPC's ) enogh screen presence and storyline closure, enough branching storyline choices and etc.