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[G3rman]

I don't know if it was actually "cut"..I think people just took the word trial and ran with it.

[Dragoonlordz]

G3rman wrote...

I don't know if it was actually "cut"..I think people just took the word trial and ran with it.

Hackett at end of Arrival said would be one when return to Earth, Chris also used the word, many sites talked about it and press emphasised it. None of them said tribuneral or meeting and they all said trial. To most a trial is two sides putting forth their evidence and leading to a judgement.

I do not think it was an unfair expectation based on all that.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 22 février 2012 - 04:16 .

[G3rman]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Hackett at end of Arrival said would be one when return to Earth, Chris also used the word, many sites talked about it and press emphasised it. None of them said tribuneral or meeting and they all said trial. To most a trial is two sides putting forth their evidence and leading to a judgement.

I do not think it was an unfair expectation based on all that.

Maybe..but without any further depth to the word "trial" in the context of ME3, I think people kind of blew it out of proportion.  With no other information how was there any way to know what to expect other than just guessing.

[AkiKishi]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

G3rman wrote...

I don't know if it was actually "cut"..I think people just took the word trial and ran with it.

Hackett at end of Arrival said would be one when return to Earth, Chris also used the word, many sites talked about it and press emphasised it. None of them said tribuneral or meeting and they all said trial. To most a trial is two sides putting forth their evidence and leading to a judgement.

I do not think it was an unfair expectation based on all that.

I'm so glad I never bought Arrival I would feel like I was mislead into buying it without the trial.

[Unfallen_Satan]

Let my people... ahem, I mean "let that trial go."

[NobleUndertaker]

when (if) you import it will probably say something if you did the Arrival DLC.

[Dragoonlordz]

Unfallen_Satan wrote...

Let my people... ahem, I mean "let that trial go."

The trial is a focus point for bigger issues for me personally with what saw in the demonstration of the introduction as a whole. Though will need to read the "trial and introduction" section of my review which can find in signature the link if need more details so I don't spam the thread with repeating information.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 22 février 2012 - 04:47 .

[Dragoonlordz]

Just realised something, I have quoted iakus twice now. Once in my ME3 demonstration review and once in my DA2 review... I forgot all about his comment I quoted in DA2 review from year or so ago. Is not really that relevant to this specific topic other than the qoute for the ME3 review but thought was funny how I used him/her before and forgot all about it from DA2.

Keep on form iakus and I'll be doing the same (if I ever play ME4 or DA3). 

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 22 février 2012 - 04:51 .

[DJBare]

NobleUndertaker wrote...

when (if) you import it will probably say something if you did the Arrival DLC.

One line from Anderson by all accounts, the whole arrival thing is a fiasco, a contrived setup to get Shepard back on earth, why is it contrived?, because they are not following through with any depth, sure I figure I'm going to be getting into lots of fights with Batarians, but so what, I fought a lot of them without contrivance in ME2.

[tmp7704]

Come to think of it, the way ME3 opening is done it can be very well interpreted in a way that removes the arrival DLC from the continuity altogether -- the talk about Shepard losing rank for the stuff he/she pulled might very well refer simply to co-operating with Cerberus throughout ME2.

[TheRevanchist]

I tried not to read the "90 minute review"...but from everyones reactions to it...does not sound good. Damnit....I can't help but feel like I want to pull my hair out...this is getting ridiculous!

Also wtf ppl hate Hepler? O.o

[Slayer299]

kylecouch wrote...

I tried not to read the "90 minute review"...but from everyones reactions to it...does not sound good. Damnit....I can't help but feel like I want to pull my hair out...this is getting ridiculous!

Also wtf ppl hate Hepler? O.o

The Hepler thing is something seperate from this, but brief, she's a BW employee who was quoted from a yr ago and has had death threats at home about said 'quote' which was in part actual and in part made up. There's a thread I think in the news/.announcements section for more accurate information.

But to the other, yeah, the review is not encouraging at all for me about ME3

[TheRevanchist]

Slayer299 wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

I tried not to read the "90 minute review"...but from everyones reactions to it...does not sound good. Damnit....I can't help but feel like I want to pull my hair out...this is getting ridiculous!

Also wtf ppl hate Hepler? O.o

The Hepler thing is something seperate from this, but brief, she's a BW employee who was quoted from a yr ago and has had death threats at home about said 'quote' which was in part actual and in part made up. There's a thread I think in the news/.announcements section for more accurate information.

But to the other, yeah, the review is not encouraging at all for me about ME3

Oh I know who she is...she wrote the only awsome DA2 companion...Varric. I read what she "said". Saw no issues at all...

But anyway... this is what I expected from "reviews" about this game...they are never actually critical of any triple A title. Otherwise they'll lose their "privledges" those companies give them. But...even knowing what I know about Biowares history of game making of late...I still can't help but feel sad about this turn of events. They just don't seem to give a crap anymore. They troll people on these boards almost every chance they get, act like we should be grateful for any piece of crap they decide to give us as if it's not their job, outright lie to us on many occasions regarding things about their games...remember "there is no multiplayer in ME3"? yea...just one example. Of course the reverse is true too...many fans are rude and always unsatisfied with anything they are given. many also have an outrageous sense of self-entitlement that is abhorent. I feel for the most part this thread is not filled with such fans, yet Chris seems to give us that same half hearted sarcastic smart ass crap they always give people these days.

I am very quickly starting to lose all hope of this game being good at all. The more I learn the more it sounds like GoW at every turn. Tiny bits of story thrown in to the endless sea of gunplay.

[DaJe]

G3rman wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Hackett at end of Arrival said would be one when return to Earth, Chris also used the word, many sites talked about it and press emphasised it. None of them said tribuneral or meeting and they all said trial. To most a trial is two sides putting forth their evidence and leading to a judgement.

I do not think it was an unfair expectation based on all that.

Maybe..but without any further depth to the word "trial" in the context of ME3, I think people kind of blew it out of proportion.  With no other information how was there any way to know what to expect other than just guessing.

I bet many expected something along the line of Talis trail in ME2. Specially when you get everyones hopes up and announce it as the intro, which made perfect sense. What we are left with instead is not satisfactory for an intro imo, neither for experienced nor new players.

[TheRevanchist]

yea...now this whole Mars thing if that article is to be believed...this games future looks bleak...I bet every level will be Horde Mode, endless wave DA2 style fighting...

[TheRevanchist]

darkness reborn wrote...

Just ilke everything in Mass Effect 3's plot.

It went down the cr*pper.

(gameplay is alright).

Thats the most tragic part of this entire thing I think...They are butchering evey other aspect of their game to show shooter ppl how "awsome" their combat and cinimatic exsplosions are. Yet it's not really any different from ME2...and is only average even then...so from what we know now...the game is just totaly medicore every way you look at it.

Modifié par kylecouch, 22 février 2012 - 03:08 .

[ArkkAngel007]

phimseto wrote...

Holy crap, that Guardian piece is distressing. Seems like EA's kind of reviewer though: was nonplussed about the lack of story depth (euphemistically calling the opening "stage setting", seemingly with a straight face). Post earth is a trip to mars which is overloaded with combat and negligible on story. He thinks the series' only flaw was vehicle exploration and that multiplayer is a great and exciting addition. Gag.

Not a lot to be encouraged about...

How was it distressing?  They didn't say the story lacked depth or anything...all they said was that Mars was an action heavy mission with only one puzzle (not that there were many before, and that may be one more than what ME2 had) and that there was a lack of XP available (the only thing distressing to me).  There was nowhere stating that story was neglected, just that Mars is the first mission with sustainable gameplay.

You all really like to take things way out of context.

[blacqout]

Mr.Kusy wrote...

Hello Man wrote...

PHub88 wrote...

Well they dont want shooter fans who dont like the series to be bored now. Why put in some boring old dialogue when you could just explosions...shoots...BOOM

Straight up. I will NEVER buy another Bioware game again if the dialogue in this game is the way it is in the demo. Nonexistent and automatic.

"I'd stake my life on it". Im pretty sure sense it was a demo they had to dumb it down.

Now you are doing exactly the same thing we all did when Dragon Age 2 demo showed up... sorry mate... it's the sad, sick world of cynism you will fall into shorty.

The Dragon Age II demo did differ from the opening of the actual game. At one point Varric asks Cassandra if she's afraid he'll just make it all up, and she says with some exasperation "will you?"... but in the actual game she replies with the far more authoritive "not. at. all".

I'm sure the opening experienced in the demo will not be the same as in the full release.

[TheRevanchist]

blacqout wrote...

Mr.Kusy wrote...

Hello Man wrote...

PHub88 wrote...

Well they dont want shooter fans who dont like the series to be bored now. Why put in some boring old dialogue when you could just explosions...shoots...BOOM

Straight up. I will NEVER buy another Bioware game again if the dialogue in this game is the way it is in the demo. Nonexistent and automatic.

"I'd stake my life on it". Im pretty sure sense it was a demo they had to dumb it down.

Now you are doing exactly the same thing we all did when Dragon Age 2 demo showed up... sorry mate... it's the sad, sick world of cynism you will fall into shorty.

The Dragon Age II demo did differ from the opening of the actual game. At one point Varric asks Cassandra if she's afraid he'll just make it all up, and she says with some exasperation "will you?"... but in the actual game she replies with the far more authoritive "not. at. all".

I'm sure the opening experienced in the demo will not be the same as in the full release.

Ahhh...but heres the difference....the DA2 demo was confirmed to be a older build of the game...this demo build is so fresh it is what we see in the final product.

[TheRevanchist]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

phimseto wrote...

Holy crap, that Guardian piece is distressing. Seems like EA's kind of reviewer though: was nonplussed about the lack of story depth (euphemistically calling the opening "stage setting", seemingly with a straight face). Post earth is a trip to mars which is overloaded with combat and negligible on story. He thinks the series' only flaw was vehicle exploration and that multiplayer is a great and exciting addition. Gag.

Not a lot to be encouraged about...

How was it distressing?  They didn't say the story lacked depth or anything...all they said was that Mars was an action heavy mission with only one puzzle (not that there were many before, and that may be one more than what ME2 had) and that there was a lack of XP available (the only thing distressing to me).  There was nowhere stating that story was neglected, just that Mars is the first mission with sustainable gameplay.

You all really like to take things way out of context.

So we have Earth lacking story for the sake of gunfighting...and then we have Mars lacking story for the sake of gunfighting. We're not saying the whole games like this...but the apparent pattern that is forming is indeed troubleing.

If this ends up being the best part of ME3...I will be disapointed.

Modifié par kylecouch, 22 février 2012 - 03:29 .

[Squallypo]

kylecouch wrote...

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

phimseto wrote...

Holy crap, that Guardian piece is distressing. Seems like EA's kind of reviewer though: was nonplussed about the lack of story depth (euphemistically calling the opening "stage setting", seemingly with a straight face). Post earth is a trip to mars which is overloaded with combat and negligible on story. He thinks the series' only flaw was vehicle exploration and that multiplayer is a great and exciting addition. Gag.

Not a lot to be encouraged about...

How was it distressing?  They didn't say the story lacked depth or anything...all they said was that Mars was an action heavy mission with only one puzzle (not that there were many before, and that may be one more than what ME2 had) and that there was a lack of XP available (the only thing distressing to me).  There was nowhere stating that story was neglected, just that Mars is the first mission with sustainable gameplay.

You all really like to take things way out of context.

So we have Earth lacking story for the sake of gunfighting...and then we have Mars lacking story for the sake of gunfighting. We're not saying the whole games like this...but the apparent pattern that is forming is indeed troubleing.

If this ends up being the best part of ME3...I will be disapointed.

im already dissapointed, but what can we actually do really ? the game is already made, they wont do any changes at all, so what we could do is either buy the game or dont buy it  which at this point im having doubts rofl but im getting it.. yes i am  my last ever bioware game

[ArkkAngel007]

kylecouch wrote...

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

phimseto wrote...

Holy crap, that Guardian piece is distressing. Seems like EA's kind of reviewer though: was nonplussed about the lack of story depth (euphemistically calling the opening "stage setting", seemingly with a straight face). Post earth is a trip to mars which is overloaded with combat and negligible on story. He thinks the series' only flaw was vehicle exploration and that multiplayer is a great and exciting addition. Gag.

Not a lot to be encouraged about...

How was it distressing?  They didn't say the story lacked depth or anything...all they said was that Mars was an action heavy mission with only one puzzle (not that there were many before, and that may be one more than what ME2 had) and that there was a lack of XP available (the only thing distressing to me).  There was nowhere stating that story was neglected, just that Mars is the first mission with sustainable gameplay.

You all really like to take things way out of context.

So we have Earth lacking story for the sake of gunfighting...and then we have Mars lacking story for the sake of gunfighting. We're not saying the whole games like this...but the apparent pattern that is forming is indeed troubleing.

If this ends up being the best part of ME3...I will be disapointed.

Again, where does it say the story is lacking?  There is story present when playing through the action.  You don't always have to stop every 2 seconds to answer a dialogue option to get story.

I'm not trying to lob everyone together on the hate-train...I myself felt the Earth level to be very disjointed in the demo...but my issue is things getting taken out of context in the story so that it can fit someone's argument.  America has politicians for that.

[DaJe]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

phimseto wrote...

Holy crap, that Guardian piece is distressing. Seems like EA's kind of reviewer though: was nonplussed about the lack of story depth (euphemistically calling the opening "stage setting", seemingly with a straight face). Post earth is a trip to mars which is overloaded with combat and negligible on story. He thinks the series' only flaw was vehicle exploration and that multiplayer is a great and exciting addition. Gag.

Not a lot to be encouraged about...

How was it distressing?  They didn't say the story lacked depth or anything...all they said was that Mars was an action heavy mission with only one puzzle (not that there were many before, and that may be one more than what ME2 had) and that there was a lack of XP available (the only thing distressing to me).  There was nowhere stating that story was neglected, just that Mars is the first mission with sustainable gameplay.

You all really like to take things way out of context.

So we have Earth lacking story for the sake of gunfighting...and then we have Mars lacking story for the sake of gunfighting. We're not saying the whole games like this...but the apparent pattern that is forming is indeed troubleing.

If this ends up being the best part of ME3...I will be disapointed.

Again, where does it say the story is lacking?  There is story present when playing through the action.  You don't always have to stop every 2 seconds to answer a dialogue option to get story.

I'm not trying to lob everyone together on the hate-train...I myself felt the Earth level to be very disjointed in the demo...but my issue is things getting taken out of context in the story so that it can fit someone's argument.  America has politicians for that.

I find it disappointing that the Mars section too will be so action focused. I was looking forward to investigating creepy old alien ruins on the red planet, with dense atmosphere like in a movie. Hear the marsian winds, the distorted voices of your squad through helmets. Instead, it appears it will just be another background location for the combat. Prometheus can't come soon enough. This genre desperately needs new creative sparks.