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[TheRevanchist]

Rudy Lis wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

I hate Witcher because it's nothing but tedious crap...the story is the worst I've seen in ages and the protagonist is horrible and hollow. Sorry but you will never convince me The Witcher is a good game...never.

Have no intentions to convince anyone in anything. Jedem das seine.
Just find it funny how westerners generally blame Witcher, while praising their, western titles and "RPG values". Smell hypocrite to me. 
At least your response is not "he looks gay" argument.

kylecouch wrote...

I might get DA3 one day...after it drops like $50 in price....

You mean they have to pay you $10?

No...I just played through the whole first half of that game not giving a s*** about anything happening...everyone was some extreamly racist ****** who was undeserving of my time. The world is so dark and angst it's not even believeable. Gerralt's voice is monotone and is just a plain flat character whos just obsessed with f***ing anything thats female.

Imo the best RPG I've ever played was the awsome Jade Empire. -sniffles- you will be missed IP with loads of potential.

They might have to pay me...who knows...will have to see what the story is actually about...

[Rudy Lis]

kylecouch wrote...

No...I just played through the whole first half of that game not giving a s*** about anything happening...everyone was some extreamly racist ****** who was undeserving of my time. The world is so dark and angst it's not even believeable. Gerralt's voice is monotone and is just a plain flat character whos just obsessed with f***ing anything thats female.

You owe me new keyboard for spilled soda! 
We definitely play different Witchers. Ow, wait, we didn't! It's just game so variable and different, so everyone sees what he wants. Isn't that meaning for RPG?
That's why I like Witcher, it feel real, natural, without that "western world" hypocricy and pseudo-dark ambient atmosphere (and I'm pretty sure Bioware studied Witcher), "just like home". It question things generally ignored or denied by public. It gives you options and then shows you consequences of your actions. Not via "e-mail" or poorly written character, reminding you who he is it, but very obvious way, say corpse on the ground. Isn't that what we need from RPG? For me - yes.
And Geralt is best written character. Maybe that's source of pain for gamers who want to see themselves or their alter-ego as protagonist, not some mutant with pre-defined history, temporarily barred by amnesia - allowing player to make decisions and choose sides. Of course, it's hard to know all that without reading books, but I've forgotten much of their content before I played game. Yet, I enjoyed it. Mostly books just serves as Codex - broading your knowledge on world. But since I may have forgotten something, I hope Polish brethren will correct me, if I'm wrong.
Geralt VO for me is one of the best on whole games and movies department. I was surprised how well it fits my vision of Geralt's character. For me Doug ****le is best Geralt VO. [Bioware owe me second keyboard for their filter, it's just hilarious]
Ow, and regarding females... That was your choice, isn't? To **** everything that moves and female. Not Geralt's.
Of course game has flaws, it's not perfect. Nobody is. But as RPG it is unsurpassed.

kylecouch wrote...

Imo the best RPG I've ever played was the awsome Jade Empire. -sniffles- you will be missed IP with loads of potential.

I dunno, missed it totally. According to news from those I trust, "typical old-school Bioware game". That's not bad, mind you. Better than DA2. Err, sorry, "modern Bioware game".

kylecouch wrote...

They might have to pay me...who knows...will have to see what the story is actually about...

Oh, I'm pretty sure I'm not going to buy DA3 no matter what. Unless it will be $5 (yes, five) for "ultimate edition" (all previous parts with all possible DLCs) on sale on Steam. No Steam, no sale, no ultimate edition, pricetag higher than 5? Sorry, don't need it. Better go get myself some some Coca-Cola 2 letre, at least it will be tasty and pleasant enough.
They really have to jump sky-high with toe loop twist to convince me to change my opinion. I know, they don't care. Not that I do. My weakness with ME3 - I want to know how's Shepard's story ends. They made that character interesting enough for me to worry about his fate. But maybe I will change my opinion. For first time in my life. There is still time till 2012 March 9, isn't?

Modifié par Rudy Lis, 24 février 2012 - 03:04 .

[elearon1]

Just to throw my 2 drachmas in, I loved the Witcher, and I loved Jade Empire - I'd encourage a person to miss neither one. Seriously, if you liked Kotor, play Jade Empire. (so rare you see a game set in a Chinese Styled world and it even had a character from "Bridge of Birds" by Barry Hughart ... and if you haven't read that you've denied yourself some of the best fairytale fantasy ever written.)

[frylock23]

Rudy Lis wrote...

frylock23 wrote...

This one I'll give them the benefit of the doubt on. They may not have intended to have mp in ME3 at the time, but they may have been overruled by EA and it's new corporate direction which is to have every game in it's corporate stable feature some elements of cooperative style play and/or social networking. If you'll notice, ME3 has both of these. And, the mp was not developed by the studios that did the main ME3 game, but by another BioWare studio. They've even started shoehorning these things into EA games where it makes no sense to have them.

Why waste resources on doubtful gaming mode, while it should be more logical to spent them on main story mode?
I can't help but I respect Remedy for their approach to Alan Wake - I definitely prefer to put my hands on good single, other than mediocre single and needless (for me, of course) multiplayer.
Personally I colour "multiplayer" as epidemy now, like "quick-time events" several years ago. Yes, randomly and WISELY put they could be interesting addition to gameplay. But when there is too much of them, you start to ask yourself (Ok, I ask myself) "WTF is that, what experience it's add, what point in that gameplay element?"
From time to time I can't get out of my head one feeling - feeling, that many gameplay elements were added under mantra "why the **** not, OTHERS have them too!". and add them, without any logical link between game and elements.
And here is a problem (in my understanding, as good Dragoonlordz prefer to point) - when there is too much of something, you stop noticing it and it starts to irritate, but provide pleasure and joy. From "selling" or "interesting" point it turns to "just one of many elements". Was it worth it?

 

I only put that down because I was thinking that BioWare intended not to put in MP, but got overruled by EA. I was hoping that BioWare could maintain enough of its independence because of its track record of success, but it looks like that is not to be. EA will have its way. In this case, I give the benefit of the doubt to BioWare, not to EA, but as long as BioWare remains a part of EA, I think we've no settled the question as to who pulls the strings and how hard. I'm massively disappointed both in BioWare for selling out and in EA for destroying something unique.

[Dansayshi]

So what do I miss, between ME2's ending (getting back through the omega 4 relay) to ME3s demo start... Oo

I was a little confused.

[Rudy Lis]

elearon1 wrote...

Just to throw my 2 drachmas in, I loved the Witcher, and I loved Jade Empire - I'd encourage a person to miss neither one. Seriously, if you liked Kotor, play Jade Empire. (so rare you see a game set in a Chinese Styled world and it even had a character from "Bridge of Birds" by Barry Hughart ... and if you haven't read that you've denied yourself some of the best fairytale fantasy ever written.)

Jade Empire is not available here. At least I wasn't able to find it. Not sure why - otherwise I'd order it. Well, it's not exactly true - localized versions are present, but I have more than enough of them.

I do not remember seeing not just that book, but that author here, so since you recommend it, I'd probably give it a try, though personally I thought I had enough of fantasy literature.

frylock23 wrote...

I only put that down because I was thinking that BioWare intended not to put in MP, but got overruled by EA. I was hoping that BioWare could maintain enough of its independence because of its track record of success, but it looks like that is not to be. EA will have its way. In this case, I give the benefit of the doubt to BioWare, not to EA, but as long as BioWare remains a part of EA, I think we've no settled the question as to who pulls the strings and how hard. I'm massively disappointed both in BioWare for selling out and in EA for destroying something unique.

I think situation on that is same as situation with trial and overall story impression after ME3 demo - pitchblack darkness, filled with echoes from random "supportive" comments from involved parties (e.i. their creditability is questionable at best).

I don't have anything against any form of multiplayer, as long as it's not harms single. Especially when game was single-player RPG all the way and then, suddenly turns into "multi-level entertainment platform".

Plus, as Farbautisonn said, fate of Bullfrog, Origin (another Origin) and Westwood still ringing in ears.

[elearon1]

Rudy Lis wrote...
Jade Empire is not available here. At least I wasn't able to find it. Not sure why - otherwise I'd order it. Well, it's not exactly true - localized versions are present, but I have more than enough of them.

I do not remember seeing not just that book, but that author here, so since you recommend it, I'd probably give it a try, though personally I thought I had enough of fantasy literature.

I'm sorry to hear you won't get a chance to play the game, it really is worth it if you can get a copy.  As for the book, it is a very fun, very lighthearted read that wraps up quite magically.  The later books in the series get progressively duller, but the first, "bridge of birds" is a must read. (especially, again, because you don't see a lot of fantasy set in mythical China ... and don't worry, each book stands alone, so you miss nothing by not reading the latter works.) 

Modifié par elearon1, 24 février 2012 - 05:41 .

[Dragoonlordz]

I'll be ducking out of this thread now since said all I needed to and expressed all I felt was relevant.

P.s. My top 3 games of 2010. Skyrim, DE:HR and The Witcher 2 from last year so I happen to like TW2.

[Rudy Lis]

elearon1 wrote...

I'm sorry to hear you won't get a chance to play the game, it really is worth it if you can get a copy.  As for the book, it is a very fun, very lighthearted read that wraps up quite magically.

  

I never said I won't get a chance, it just will be PITA to get it - ordering hard-copy from, say, Amazon will require to risk package lost (and I lost enough of them, that's why I love and hate digital distribution at same time - love, since there are no middlemen, hate - because publishers signs such ridiculous contracts with local distributors so you just can't buy original copy, only localized (and they are ****ed); fine, give me full world price, but let me buy what I want, only digitally), ordering digital will require to ask someone outside my country to find time to order that game in, say, Steam and sent it to me. Of course I have to cover their expenses, and it could be problematic too, country dependant, usually. Paypal generally works, of course. Generally. Unless you took 1 on D20.

elearon1 wrote...

The later books in the series get progressively duller, but the first, "bridge of birds" is a must read. (especially, again, because you don't see a lot of fantasy set in mythical China ... and don't worry, each book stands alone, so you miss nothing by not reading the latter works.) 

Okay, I'll give it a try.

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I'll be ducking out of this thread now since said all I needed to and expressed all I felt was relevant.

P.s. My top 3 games of 2010. Skyrim, DE:HR and The Witcher 2 from last year so I happen to like TW2.

Err, you reject our reality and replaced it with your own? Skyrim, DE:HR and Witcher are 2011 games, or my insomnia ruined my internal clock? Not sure what TW2 is, though.

[Karimloo]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Gemini1179 wrote...

Then you're the kind of customer EA wants. No sense bogging players down with plot and character development when there are things to kill!

(Sorry I couldn't help it, I'm disappoineted at the opening- it's another bit of railroading and cut corners)

Ok, I know I'm a tool of the Man and all, but how so?

If you are a new player (haven't played ME1 or ME2) you learn who Shepard is, why he's on earth, what the Reaper threat is, and then the story begins.

If you are a continuing player (have played either or both of the previous games) you already know the plot and character development because you helped form it with your previous play throughs and the story picks up after ME2.

I'm sorry you're disappointed, but I'm not completely sure why?

Because you hold back. You hold the juicy bits of dialouge, the intense conversations, the cinematics, instead you bog us down with combat, points, DLC. If I didn't know any better I think BioWare has lost it's roots, instead I feel as though you are becoming Mainstream. That doesn't mean I don't still love you guys, but still, just don't turn into another money grubbing franchise. You guys blew us away with Mass Effect 1 and it's originality, do it again.

[Dragoonlordz]

Rudy Lis wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I'll be ducking out of this thread now since said all I needed to and expressed all I felt was relevant.

P.s. My top 3 games of 2010. Skyrim, DE:HR and The Witcher 2 from last year so I happen to like TW2.

Err, you reject our reality and replaced it with your own? Skyrim, DE:HR and Witcher are 2011 games, or my insomnia ruined my internal clock? Not sure what TW2 is, though.

Yes. 

I have been working from home for last few years, days tend to blend into another and I work mostly nights even though get to pick my own hours as long as work gets done by deadlines. Though this was more a case of typo-error than losing my mind. I lose track of what day sometimes but not what year. TW2 = The Witcher 2.

[Rudy Lis]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Yes. 

I have been working from home for last few years, days tend to blend into another and I work mostly nights even though get to pick my own hours as long as work gets done by deadlines.

Familiar feeling. Not that I work from home that much often, but when insomnia strikes good row, days tend to blend into interesting puree. "Hi, I'm Mark Fosh and today we going to cook some food you can't even pronounce"

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Though this was more a case of typo-error than losing my mind. I lose track of what day sometimes but not what year. TW2 = The Witcher 2.

Well, than you will be pleased - April 17th they going to release patch, making chapter 3 around 4 hours longer plus some other, undisclosed content (remember patch 1.4 for W1). Free of charge. Hidden message in video, as usual.

[Rencor2k]

Why the hell would they cut that out?? ive been waiting for that since last arrival.... god damn it!!