Aller au contenu

Photo

So, what happened to the trial?


  • Veuillez vous connecter pour répondre
2915 réponses à ce sujet

#351
Blacklash93

Blacklash93
  • Members
  • 4 154 messages

Chris Priestly wrote...

What dodge? This is the start of the game, people who have played the demo will back me up on this. How's this dodging?



:devil:

It's not a trial. More like an urgent hearing that lasts 2 minutes.

#352
IBPROFEN

IBPROFEN
  • Members
  • 370 messages

Chris Priestly wrote...

Mass Effect 3 starts (roughly) 6 months after the end of Mass Effect 2. It starts with the end of the trial of Commander Shepard during which the Reapers first arrive on earth. This is the bit that starts the game and the demo.



:devil:


 there you go! thanks Chris

#353
Pee Jae

Pee Jae
  • Members
  • 4 085 messages

Chris Priestly wrote...

What dodge? This is the start of the game, people who have played the demo will back me up on this. How's this dodging?



:devil:


What everyone is wondering is, is there more to the trial? Like Genesis, where new players can make decisions based on things that happened in part 1 and 2. Specifically, Arrival.

#354
ramdog7

ramdog7
  • Members
  • 822 messages

Chris Priestly wrote...

What dodge? This is the start of the game, people who have played the demo will back me up on this. How's this dodging?



:devil:

so can you honestly say that we dont see or hear shepards trial anywhere in the game

#355
PrinceOfFallout13

PrinceOfFallout13
  • Members
  • 1 004 messages

Gemini1179 wrote...

Hatchetman77 wrote...


Meh, I'm ok with this.  I think the trial would have bogged down the opening of the game unnecessarily and disrupted the pacing of the story.


Then you're the kind of customer EA wants. No sense bogging players down with plot and character development when there are things to kill!

(Sorry I couldn't help it, I'm disappoineted at the opening- it's another bit of railroading and cut corners)


did you feel the same way with the mass effect 2 intro?

#356
AxisEvolve

AxisEvolve
  • Members
  • 2 738 messages

Chris Priestly wrote...
It starts with the end of the trial of Commander Shepard during which the Reapers first arrive on earth. 

I may have misinterpreted the beginning of the demo, but I don't recall there being any mention or hint that a trial had just ended.

#357
Xarathox

Xarathox
  • Members
  • 1 287 messages

Blacklash93 wrote...

Xarathox wrote...
Good to finally know. Arrival has no consequnces.

It still sets the stage for Shepard being present on Earth when the Repaer invasion begins, trial or no.


That may be, but Hackett stated there would be a ****storm to face from HQ about nuking 300k bat's. Now there isn't. Which is what I was stating when I said there would be no consequences of Arrival.

#358
TreguardD

TreguardD
  • Members
  • 268 messages
Ahem. Trial canceled on account of REAPERS!

#359
Halo Quea

Halo Quea
  • Members
  • 909 messages

matt-bassist wrote...

The Trial/Hearing has been reduced to "We fight or we die."


It would appear, we don't know for sure at this point.  If they did remove it then this is a Peter Moleneux kind of move :P

Maybe it just comes down to the noobs again.  To make the 3rd chapter more accessable to new gamers, the trial might have been gutted to facilitate an easier transition for them.   As disappointing as that would be, it also makes sense because new gamers wouldn't have had a single clue why their *new* Shepard was on trial or how to even respond to any of the charges.

IF this in fact turns out to the be the case then it will just be another log on the bonfire of disappointments we've had with this series.  So I think all of us need to sort of prepare for the trial not being there, and just move on.  :?

#360
StephanieBengal

StephanieBengal
  • Members
  • 824 messages

Chris Priestly wrote...

What dodge? This is the start of the game, people who have played the demo will back me up on this. How's this dodging?



:devil:


You aren't dodging, you made it pretty clear. 

#361
Blacklash93

Blacklash93
  • Members
  • 4 154 messages

Gemini1179 wrote...
Then you're the kind of customer EA wants. No sense bogging players down with plot and character development when there are things to kill!

How would a trial contribute anything to plot and character development? It would be a review of the last two games and nothing more. The only value it has is the entertainment of watching Shepard get unjustly grilled for what he's done to thwart the Reaper invasion and him defending himself for it.

#362
HolyAvenger

HolyAvenger
  • Members
  • 13 848 messages
Shepard was suspended and confined pending whatever trial s/he had to undergo for Arrival. Then the Reapers came and all bets were off. Simples.

#363
Chris Priestly

Chris Priestly
  • Members
  • 7 259 messages

Gemini1179 wrote...

Then you're the kind of customer EA wants. No sense bogging players down with plot and character development when there are things to kill!

(Sorry I couldn't help it, I'm disappoineted at the opening- it's another bit of railroading and cut corners)


Ok, I know I'm a tool of the Man and all, but how so?

If you are a new player (haven't played ME1 or ME2) you learn who Shepard is, why he's on earth, what the Reaper threat is, and then the story begins.

If you are a continuing player (have played either or both of the previous games) you already know the plot and character development because you helped form it with your previous play throughs and the story picks up after ME2.

I'm sorry you're disappointed, but I'm not completely sure why?



:devil:

Modifié par Chris Priestly, 13 février 2012 - 05:05 .


#364
Ohei

Ohei
  • Members
  • 845 messages

Chris Priestly wrote...

Gemini1179 wrote...

Then you're the kind of customer EA wants. No sense bogging players down with plot and character development when there are things to kill!

(Sorry I couldn't help it, I'm disappoineted at the opening- it's another bit of railroading and cut corners)


Ok, I know I'm a tool of the Man and all, but how so?

If you are a new player (haven't played ME1 or ME2) you learn who Shepard is, why he's on earth, what the Reaper threat is, and then the story begins.

If you are a continuing player (have played either or both of the previous games) you already know the plot and character development because you helped form it with your previous play throughs and the story picks up after ME2.

I'm sorry you're disappointed, but I'm not completely sure why?



:devil:


I think it means people feel the intro is kind of rushed/unpolished. So, what you mean is that no matter if we import or not, we get the same opening to the game?

Thanks for the clarification, by the way.

Modifié par Ohei, 13 février 2012 - 05:06 .


#365
lobi

lobi
  • Members
  • 2 096 messages
Was the trial considered? Was it worked on? Was it dropped due to "time constraints"?

Image IPB

Modifié par lobi, 13 février 2012 - 05:07 .


#366
PrinceOfFallout13

PrinceOfFallout13
  • Members
  • 1 004 messages

Chris Priestly wrote...

Gemini1179 wrote...

Then you're the kind of customer EA wants. No sense bogging players down with plot and character development when there are things to kill!

(Sorry I couldn't help it, I'm disappoineted at the opening- it's another bit of railroading and cut corners)


Ok, I know I'm a tool of the Man and all, but how so?

If you are a new player (haven't played ME1 or ME2) you learn who Shepard is, why he's on earth, what the Reaper threat is, and then the story begins.

If you are a continuing player (have played either or both of the previous games) you already know the plot and character development because you helped form it with your previous play throughs and the story picks up after ME2.

I'm sorry you're disappointed, but I'm not completely sure why?



:devil:


i imagine the new player part of your post means thats there a genesis type comic?

#367
izmirtheastarach

izmirtheastarach
  • Members
  • 5 298 messages

Chris Priestly wrote...

Ok, I know I'm a tool of the Man and all, but how so?

If you are a new player (haven't played ME1 or ME2) you learn who Shepard is, why he's on earth, what the Reaper threat is, and then the story begins.

If you are a continuing player (have played either or both of the previous games) you already know the plot and character development because you helped form it with your previous play throughs and the story picks up after ME2.

I'm sorry you're disappointed, but I'm not completely sure why?


:devil:


You yourself said several months ago that the way you handled "the trial" set the tone for the rest of the game. I have played the demo several times. There is no trial in it. This is where the confusion is coming from, certainly for me.

#368
Domdeegrpgc

Domdeegrpgc
  • Members
  • 105 messages
Why is it that my character has a sudden friendship with James Vega despite never having met him before?

#369
Blacklash93

Blacklash93
  • Members
  • 4 154 messages

Xarathox wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

Xarathox wrote...
Good to finally know. Arrival has no consequnces.

It still sets the stage for Shepard being present on Earth when the Repaer invasion begins, trial or no.


That may be, but Hackett stated there would be a ****storm to face from HQ about nuking 300k bat's. Now there isn't. Which is what I was stating when I said there would be no consequences of Arrival.

There being no backlash from the Batarians makes sense as the Repears utterly destroyed them shortly after Arrival.

And there probably was a ****storm, but we missed it. A disappointment on some lost entertainment value, to be sure.

#370
Guest_Hello Man_*

Guest_Hello Man_*
  • Guests
A lot of people including me thought maybe such a trial could have contributed to the story more and seal/recap the events from the past game. Thanks for responding.

#371
gosimmons

gosimmons
  • Members
  • 505 messages
Shame. Would have liked to see Shepard's defense, and his meeting Vega.

#372
ramdog7

ramdog7
  • Members
  • 822 messages

Domdeegrpgc wrote...

Why is it that my character has a sudden friendship with James Vega despite never having met him before?

this!:devil:

#373
PlumPaul93

PlumPaul93
  • Members
  • 1 823 messages

Domdeegrpgc wrote...

Why is it that my character has a sudden friendship with James Vega despite never having met him before?


Just because.

#374
PrinceOfFallout13

PrinceOfFallout13
  • Members
  • 1 004 messages

ramdog7 wrote...

Domdeegrpgc wrote...

Why is it that my character has a sudden friendship with James Vega despite never having met him before?

this!:devil:


kaidan?

#375
Dragoonlordz

Dragoonlordz
  • Members
  • 9 920 messages

Ohei wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Gemini1179 wrote...

Then you're the kind of customer EA wants. No sense bogging players down with plot and character development when there are things to kill!

(Sorry I couldn't help it, I'm disappoineted at the opening- it's another bit of railroading and cut corners)


Ok, I know I'm a tool of the Man and all, but how so?

If you are a new player (haven't played ME1 or ME2) you learn who Shepard is, why he's on earth, what the Reaper threat is, and then the story begins.

If you are a continuing player (have played either or both of the previous games) you already know the plot and character development because you helped form it with your previous play throughs and the story picks up after ME2.

I'm sorry you're disappointed, but I'm not completely sure why?



:devil:


I think it means people feel the intro is kind of rushed/unpolished. So, what you mean is that no matter if we import or not, we get the same opening to the game?

Thanks for the clarification, by the way.


If get same start whether import or start new that is disappointment (imho), shows a lack of care and attention from the offset and does not bode well for attention to detail (just possibly) throughout the rest of the game. It becomes force fed story/plot for what is probably the most important part of the game. It would have to recover very fast from a generic canonisation to aviod (imho) more disappointment.