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[Feanor_II]

bluewolv1970 wrote...

maybe if someone had actually taking the time to talk about the story instead of shoving more MP,kinect and combat information down our throats we would know these things...

But back to ME2 a lot of people complained because talking about the story Bioware spoiled it. With ME3 the followed just the opposite strategy.

I think they've been unnable to find an adequate marketing strategy.....

[Il Divo]

kylecouch wrote...


yea yea TL;DR or w/e (still no idea what that means) but eaither read it or don't. Don't waste ppls time by pointing out the obvious. or trolling "blah blah wall o text blah blah". I am not going to go into a mad rage on this issue, am I disapointed? yes absolutely. But I won't get bent out of shape over it because at -this- point...it's too late to change whats there.

Too long; didn't read is the abbreviation.

Modifié par Il Divo, 13 février 2012 - 05:39 .

[FlyinElk212]

CaptainZaysh wrote...

somecthemes wrote...

Okay, here's why I'm thrilled the trial is off, this is the final game and I don't want to spend the first ten to fifteen minutes explaining the reality of Reapers when such becomes obvious as they crash through the ceiling.  

Exactly, Commander.  The whole scene would be enormously redundant.

Not necessarily. The trial wouldn't be about the reality of the Reapers--it would be about Shepard trying to justify his actions in essentially killing 300,000+ Batarians, as well as his past alignment with Cerberus. It would've been a captivating way for players to review their past game's actions while showing Shepard in a position of vulnerability, which is INCREDIBLE considering there are so few moments we get in Mass Effect to really flesh out Shepard's character.

Imagine a scenario like this:

=======================

"Commander Shepard, you stand accused of the deaths of 300,000 Batarians in the Bahak system. Normally we'd never believe such incredulous accusations, but reports of your recent actions throughout the Terminus systems leave us worried."

"According to reports, you handed over suspicious Collector Technology over to Cerberus while working with them after successfully passing through the Omega 4 Relay. Is this true?"

Paragon- "We can't let human lives go to waste"
Neutral- "It was Reaper Tech"
Renegade- "I don't work for Cerberus"

"We've been told that you found a stronghold for thousands of Geth units in the Sea of Storms system, yet instead of disabling the units, you left the station in tact. Why?"

Paragon- "Geth aren't the enemy"
Neutral- "The Heretics are now reprogrammed"
Renegade- "The Geth work for us now"

======================

Why Bioware would miss a blatant opportunity for solid choice recap/ opportunity to develop Shepard's character is beyond me.

[cloudberserker]

Lol basically the only thing we knew about the game for the first 6 months after the announcement (except for "reapers on Earth WAAAR") was "Shepard is on Earth to answer for his action, he's a scapegoat etc" (and the only important point of Arrival really, since we knew the Reapers were coming and Batarian already hated humans even without the incident) and now not only we don't see anything about the trial, we don't even see the position of the Alliance regarding Shepard actions. Anderson (for no reason rather than friendship really) is basically giving a full armed ship and crew to a terrorist that has committed a genocide six months earlier with the task of "uniting the galaxy" as the official Earth ambassador or something like that.

It's like aliens invaded Earth and Obama asked Hitler (Lazarus Project, of course) to unite every country against the threat. Oh god.

[bluewolv1970]

cloudberserker wrote...

Lol basically the only thing we knew about the game for the first 6 months after the announcement (except for "reapers on Earth WAAAR") was "Shepard is on Earth to answer for his action, he's a scapegoat etc" (and the only important point of Arrival really, since we knew the Reapers were coming and Batarian already hated humans even without the incident) and now not only we don't see anything about the trial, we don't even see the position of the Alliance regarding Shepard actions. Anderson (for no reason rather than friendship really) is basically giving a full armed ship and crew to a terrorist that has committed a genocide six months earlier with the task of "uniting the galaxy" as the official Earth ambassador or something like that.

It's like aliens invaded Earth and Obama asked Hitler (Lazarus Project, of course) to unite every country against the threat. Oh god.

AWESOME

[izmirtheastarach]

If it actually happened the way Chris is still telling us it does, then fine. No long trial scene. We come in towards the end of it. Perhaps they are about to pass sentence on Shepard, and suddenly the Reapers invade. But that's not what is in the game.

[FSOAH]

The intro is extremely lame. The trial being cut to make space for more pow-pow-pow is ridiculous.

I mean, introducing James Vega like that is so f*cking typical "New Bioware."

[Sargerus]

ignore the whiners, can't wait for the game

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

The poll about this matter:

http://social.biowar...07/polls/28494/

Modifié par Jedi Sentinel Arian, 13 février 2012 - 05:53 .

[TheRevanchist]

Il Divo wrote...

kylecouch wrote...


yea yea TL;DR or w/e (still no idea what that means) but eaither read it or don't. Don't waste ppls time by pointing out the obvious. or trolling "blah blah wall o text blah blah". I am not going to go into a mad rage on this issue, am I disapointed? yes absolutely. But I won't get bent out of shape over it because at -this- point...it's too late to change whats there.

Too long; didn't read is the abbreviation.

I see...thank you for the enlightenment.

[BatmanPWNS]

FSOAH wrote...

The intro is extremely lame. The trial being cut to make space for more pow-pow-pow is ridiculous.

I mean, introducing James Vega like that is so f*cking typical "New Bioware."

No the opening was cut because people demanded shorter opening. Blame "the fans" if you're angry about this.

[izmirtheastarach]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

FSOAH wrote...

The intro is extremely lame. The trial being cut to make space for more pow-pow-pow is ridiculous.

I mean, introducing James Vega like that is so f*cking typical "New Bioware."

No the opening was cut because people demanded shorter opening. Blame "the fans" if you're angry about this.

I thought we were the fans?

[khankar]

Mike Shepard wrote...

I have a new view: what if Shepard being called in to see the defense committee was the end of the trial? Trials have recesses during which the defendant (Shepard) would be taken out of the room and put in a holding room

i agree. althought i think that if you listen to the conversation between shepard and anderson, it seems that some time has passed since shepard was grounded. i believe shepard says that he's got used to the hot food and soft beds. this seems to indicate that shepard has been in holding for a while (maybe a few days or weeks!??).

anyway, i think that the game starts with a brief trial/hearing. during the trial the major events of ME1 and/or ME2 will be recounted. this will be a sort of refresher for existing players and may serve as the backstory for new players. maybe new players will get to choose the responses which will form the basis of their gaming experience.

at the end, shepard will be grounded and the normandy taken away.

a few days (or weeks) later, the reapers will start heading towards earth. at this point we may get to hear the conversation in the demo between anderson and hackett. hackett mobilises the fleet. the reapers appear, destroy the alliance fleet and start entering earth's atmosphere.

the rest of the scene plays out like in the demo with shepard going to meet the committee and the reapers saying hello by killing everyone in the room.

this is my theory anyway.

[Squallypo]

izmirtheastarach wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

FSOAH wrote...

The intro is extremely lame. The trial being cut to make space for more pow-pow-pow is ridiculous.

I mean, introducing James Vega like that is so f*cking typical "New Bioware."

No the opening was cut because people demanded shorter opening. Blame "the fans" if you're angry about this.

I thought we were the fans?

so did i  

[Hunter of Legends]

Terror_K wrote...

Hey, don't worry people. I'm sure if enough of us ask for it, BioWare will release an optional, paid DLC featuring a more substantial and less rushed intro.

So... for just $10 or so, we can get the introduction the game SHOULD have had from the beginning (no pun intended...)

The intro is fine.

[Shadowrun1177]

izmirtheastarach wrote...

If it actually happened the way Chris is still telling us it does, then fine. No long trial scene. We come in towards the end of it. Perhaps they are about to pass sentence on Shepard, and suddenly the Reapers invade. But that's not what is in the game.

Except they apparently already passed judgment on Shepard at this point. The conversation between Shepard and Anderson hints that Shepard got off light only being grounded while anyone else would of been court maritaled and more I paraphrased down what Anderson said.

[BatmanPWNS]

izmirtheastarach wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

FSOAH wrote...

The intro is extremely lame. The trial being cut to make space for more pow-pow-pow is ridiculous.

I mean, introducing James Vega like that is so f*cking typical "New Bioware."

No the opening was cut because people demanded shorter opening. Blame "the fans" if you're angry about this.

I thought we were the fans?

We are.

[Sargerus]

The intro is fine.

[incinerator950]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

FSOAH wrote...

The intro is extremely lame. The trial being cut to make space for more pow-pow-pow is ridiculous.

I mean, introducing James Vega like that is so f*cking typical "New Bioware."

No the opening was cut because people demanded shorter opening. Blame "the fans" if you're angry about this.

I thought we were the fans?

We are.

Hahahahaha.

You, it, me, and up over several hundred thousand players who don't actually bother to post on this forum.  Don't forget we're not the only ones who play. 

[izmirtheastarach]

Shadowrun1177 wrote...

Except they apparently already passed judgment on Shepard at this point. The conversation between Shepard and Anderson hints that Shepard got off light only being grounded while anyone else would of been court maritaled and more I paraphrased down what Anderson said.

He does say that. He says "any other soldier would have been Court-martialed". A Court-martial is a trial. So he's saying there was not a trial. And then we are told that there was one, by a Bioware staffer on the BSN. There is a disconnect here somewhere.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 13 février 2012 - 06:02 .

[BatmanPWNS]

incinerator950 wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

FSOAH wrote...

The intro is extremely lame. The trial being cut to make space for more pow-pow-pow is ridiculous.

I mean, introducing James Vega like that is so f*cking typical "New Bioware."

No the opening was cut because people demanded shorter opening. Blame "the fans" if you're angry about this.

I thought we were the fans?

We are.

Hahahahaha.

You, it, me, and up over several hundred thousand players who don't actually bother to post on this forum.  Don't forget we're not the only ones who play. 

I never forgot them. I just said we're the fans (which did not exclude anyone, really) and BSN is the place where Bioware takes advice for the game mainly.

[Yakko77]

Would I have like to see the trial and choose a response to the charges? Sure. Is it a game breaking thing for me? Having played the demo already all I can say is HE!! NO!!! The intro is freakin' epic IMO!!!!