2915 réponses à ce sujet

[StowyMcStowstow]

I too am confused by the removal of the Trial... I mean, how hard would it have been to have the Reapers attack during the proceedings? Trials don't happen instantly, they take time. Hell, our court system is constantly back up, and it can be years before you set foot inside a courtroom. It wouldn't be hard at all to believe that Shepard had been put under house arrest for six months until the Trial. Then the trial happens, and surprise, Reapers!

As it is, though, it isn't bad. Rushed, but not bad. They could have introduced Vega, but hey. Also, I'm still confused as to why it took the Normandy a few years to take off. Did Shepard telecinetically tell joker to hang on a sec? I would figure LEAVING THE PLANET would take precedence over watching some kid we don't know get into a dropship. I don't care about the kid. At all. In any way. He's a scared kid. If that's supposed to make me feel for the kid, it didn't work. Now, I didn't want him to die (I don't like it when people die), but when he left he resigned himself to whatever fate had in store for him.

Dramatics does not take precedence over logic. It should never, ever be like that, and I wish I could slap whoever made that decision (to pause the Normandy's lift-off while we watch a kid). They should have seen the kid as Shepard gets on the Normandy, the Normandy takes off, and everything's good. It was a waste of time and not logical in the least.

I also liked how Anderson had to tell Shepard to reload and pick up ammo. It made sense in ME2 because it was a brand new ammo system and anyone could miss the Thernal clips on the floor. But in ME3? Not so much. Instead of leaving ammo on the floor, Anderson should have given Shepard some ammunition. Literally hand Shepard a Thermal Clip. The player would know what it looks like, and wouldn't need Anderson to tell a SpecOps soldier to reload. This is a bit nit-picky, I know, but to me it didn't make sense.

Modifié par StowyMcStowstow, 14 février 2012 - 11:59 .

[tez19]

They removed the trial? I knew this was another DA2, after playing the demo this game just looks worse and worse.

[Guns_of_Freedom]

Looks at above
Preorder canceled????

[Dragoonlordz]

I will probably be shot for this but the kid aspect I liked.

Though would of been more fun to have had based on when talked to him in vent akin to paragon/renegade where if picked paragon your Shepard is upset by seeing his death and alternatively if pick renegade he bursts out laughing when ship goes boom and kid goes 'weeeeee' through the air.

[izmirtheastarach]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I will probably be shot for this but the kid aspect I liked.

Though would of been more fun to have had based on when talked to him in vent akin to paragon/renegade where if picked paragon your Shepard is upset by seeing his death and alternatively if pick renegade he bursts out laughing when ship goes boom and kid goes 'weeeeee' through the air.

That is what my brother did when I showed him the demo. Alone, I thought it was kind of moving.

[Hunter of Legends]

tez19 wrote...

They removed the trial? I knew this was another DA2, after playing the demo this game just looks worse and worse.

So no trial means bad game.


Flawless logic.

[LenaMarie]

I am disappointed at the removal of the trial as well, I guess it didnt fit in with the "push a button, awesome happens" Design doctrine nowadays, but personally I enjoyed the trial in Knights of the Old Republic and was looking forward to seeing it done in Mass Effect.

Still I'm NOT cancelling my preorder, But Im privately morning the death of involved Bioware Storytelling however, kind of a shame Bioware use to push gaming to be as legitimate entertainment as movies but removing stuff like this brings waters down the experience. Now the only dramatic storytelling we have is half hearted dialogue with a kid in a vent.

[N7Raider]

tez19 wrote...

They removed the trial? I knew this was another DA2, after playing the demo this game just looks worse and worse.

this is another DAII because they possibly removed a trial?  Ok this is either really funny or painfully stupid.  

Modifié par N7Raider, 15 février 2012 - 12:04 .

[habitat 67]

tez19 wrote...

They removed the trial? I knew this was another DA2, after playing the demo this game just looks worse and worse.

What a silly thing to even say.

[izmirtheastarach]

Hello Man wrote...

Also adding theirs nothing wrong with adding this classic emotional element. I think a couple people are complaining because its nothing new.

Yeah, I mean from the first moment you see the kid, it's a manipulative emotional play. But if it works, it works. I thought it was a decent way if demonstrating how serious things are. A s**t just got real moment.

[chengthao]

LenaMarie wrote...

I am disappointed at the removal of the trial as well, I guess it didnt fit in with the "push a button, awesome happens" Design doctrine nowadays, but personally I enjoyed the trial in Knights of the Old Republic and was looking forward to seeing it done in Mass Effect.

Still I'm NOT cancelling my preorder, But Im privately morning the death of involved Bioware Storytelling however, kind of a shame Bioware use to push gaming to be as legitimate entertainment as movies but removing stuff like this brings waters down the experience. Now the only dramatic storytelling we have is half hearted dialogue with a kid in a vent.

WHAT!!! pre-order cancelled

[tez19]

LenaMarie wrote...

I am disappointed at the removal of the trial as well, I guess it didnt fit in with the "push a button, awesome happens" Design doctrine nowadays, but personally I enjoyed the trial in Knights of the Old Republic and was looking forward to seeing it done in Mass Effect.

Still I'm NOT cancelling my preorder, But Im privately morning the death of involved Bioware Storytelling however, kind of a shame Bioware use to push gaming to be as legitimate entertainment as movies but removing stuff like this brings waters down the experience. Now the only dramatic storytelling we have is half hearted dialogue with a kid in a vent.

Absolutely, the ''very devoted fans'' like N7raider can stick their heads in the sand. It just shows Bioware are dumbing the story down to fit in with Gears of War PUSH A BUTTON=AWESOME AWESOME.

[txgoldrush]

N7Raider wrote...

tez19 wrote...

They removed the trial? I knew this was another DA2, after playing the demo this game just looks worse and worse.

this is another DAII because they possibly removed a trial?  Ok this is either really funny or painfully stupid.  

both....

people in this thread....

they removed a trial....THE SKY IS FALLING AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH....

[StowyMcStowstow]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I will probably be shot for this but the kid aspect I liked.

Though would of been more fun to have had based on when talked to him in vent akin to paragon/renegade where if picked paragon your Shepard is upset by seeing his death and alternatively if pick renegade he bursts out laughing when ship goes boom and kid goes 'weeeeee' through the air.

I think the kid part (in the vent, not later) was good. You find a scared kid, and you try to help him. Scared children tend to tug at heartstrings. But later, when he is surrounded by alliance troops, why do we care anymore? Hint: We don't. Well, I didin't. I was like  "oh, he got out safely. Cool. Are we leaving yet?" Then we are forced to piddle about for a minute while we watch the Reaper charge up its death-beam. I don't like piddling about. Not in a bloody warzone when I have to be somewhere. Although, I could've seena Renegade option to just leave the kid there, or drag him out against his will.

And for another thing, I like how nothing was explained prior to meeting Vega. Where are we? Why are we there? What happened at the trial? Who is this guy? James Vega? Who is he? How does he know shepard? Wait, now anderson? Cool, but why is Shepard joking about being able to sleep in nice beds and having decent food? Usually blowing up a star system is met with jail time, not house arrest in the freaking HIlton hotel (or future Alliance equivalent).

Brotip to Bioware: Don't say the game will pick up somewhere, then not have the game start there. It's generally a bad move. Just saying. Oh, and one guy tweeting about it being gone does not count as letting us know.   

[txgoldrush]

LenaMarie wrote...

I am disappointed at the removal of the trial as well, I guess it didnt fit in with the "push a button, awesome happens" Design doctrine nowadays, but personally I enjoyed the trial in Knights of the Old Republic and was looking forward to seeing it done in Mass Effect.

Still I'm NOT cancelling my preorder, But Im privately morning the death of involved Bioware Storytelling however, kind of a shame Bioware use to push gaming to be as legitimate entertainment as movies but removing stuff like this brings waters down the experience. Now the only dramatic storytelling we have is half hearted dialogue with a kid in a vent.

and what if "the trial" hurt the experience....think....just because something is removed or changed doesn't make it worse.

The trial basically was a 1 minute scene, there is nothing really special about it. And really nothing was cut, just altered.

The pacing would have still been the EXACT same, where you get thrown into the action in 5 minutes.

[Unfallen_Satan]

I too think the intensity of the opening, if it is indeed the opening, isn't anywhere near where it could or should have been. On the other hand, I don't think we need to dwell too much on the trial. After all, it is plausible that serving justic for the Batarians, who almost destroyed a world with an asteroid, is not high on the Alliance's list of priorities. On the other hand, I think the whole opening sequence should have been done as CGI to convey the tension that the in-game renderer apparently is incapable of doing. The whole prologue could be better, but BioWare isn't really experienced with scripting a mission involving the invasion of a whole city during an invasion of a whole planet.

[izmirtheastarach]

Hello Man wrote...

This very devoted fans thing is nonsense in my opinion. I've been around since the first ME but I don't get any special treatment. Just my opinion. Oh and I'm not directing this at you just that hearing that argument all the time its pretty weak.

It's all about people trying to justifiy the righteousness of their own opinion. I get it, some people don't like the game. Super. Don't play it then.

I think it's going to be great. Still would have liked to see a trial though. These things are not mutually exclusive.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 15 février 2012 - 12:21 .

[HiroVoid]

Hello Man wrote...



This very devoted fans thing is nonsense in my opinion. I've been around since the first ME but I don't get any special treatment. Just my opinion. Oh and I'm not directing this at you just that hearing that argument all the time its pretty weak.

Sorry.  Only people like me who followed Mass Effect and pre-ordered the collector's edition of the first Mass Effect are true fans.

[Maj.Pain007]

After playing the demo I have concluded that THERE IS NO TRIAL. That was the beginning of the game. Sad that BW marketed Arrival the way they did.

[izmirtheastarach]

Seems like that is still the fault of the marketing department.