Morrigan's version is coy about the demonic nature.
I'm almost sure Morrigan did say that Flemeth made a pact with a demon to become an abomination. She did not say good spirit, neutral spirit, etc. She specifically said demon.
In your previous post, you claimed that abominations or apprentices who failed aren't the evil ones; the demons controlling them are the evil ones. Therefore Flemeth is evil based on consorting with demons alone.
Name me one other person who has consorted with demons, and isn't considered evil.
As I said, this is nth-hand gossip. It does NOT come from Morrigan's own knowledge; it supposedly comes from something she reads in a book the Templars had, which she believes is Flemeth's (although she mis-identified it at first).
Morrigan uses logic (never seen other daughters) and what she read from the
grimoire to come to that conclusion. She is intelligent enough to
separate fact from fiction, based on what she knows of Flemeth, and
based on logic.
She knows how to separate gossip of the Chasind from
Flemeth's own account. If the grimoire is something made-up by the
Templars to mislead people, wouldn't you think Morrigan is smart enough
to know it?
But she apparently has no inkling of it from direct, personal observation of Flemeth.
Just because she didn't have any inkling of it, doesn't mean it's not true. All it means is that Flemeth is good at hiding things. But using Morrigan's own personal experience of Flemeth as a mother, and what she read from the grimoire, she did say she should have known that Flemeth was capable of such a thing. If it was the most laughable attempt by Templars to make up stuff about Flemeth, Morrigan would detect it immediately.
So calling Morrigan as an expert witness, when Morrigan is passing on things she hasn't observed herself, doesn't work.
Morrigan is an expert witness solely because she knows Flemeth, more than even you the gamer. And because she knows Flemeth, and after reading the grimoire, she knows Flemeth is fully capable of such a thing. Morrigan is not one to make up stuff about Flemeth.
In addition, even if you think Morrigan *did* know what was true, you have the reliability problem: Morrigan stands to gain considerable power from Flemeth's murder, and demonstrates herself to be concerned primarily with power. Attempting to get more evidence from Morrigan boils down to her saying "Trust me, and don't talk to Flemeth! She'll just deny it. And make sure you bring me the spell book." So why believe Morrigan?
The probability that Morrigan made up all this stuff just to get Flemeth's power is a very thin argument. Your only argument is just that there is a remote possibility it is true. There is no evidence that indicates Morrigan wants power specifically from Flemeth. She did say power is everything, but never at the expense of her mother.
On the other hand, so many evidence points to Flemeth REALLY wanting to possess Morrigan, based on Morrigan's account of things alone. Flemeth sending Morrigan away to make her a more powerful host for possessing, no other daughters, grimoire knowledge, etc.
There is no conflict of interest. Flemeth's own daughter says she is capable of such a thing. If it was the Templar or Chantry saying this, then maybe you can argue that they're just lying to discredit Flemeth.
One of the posters already mentioned that Flemeth didn't even deny such a thing when you confronted her about it.
So we can safely assume Morrigan really wants to kill Flemeth first to protect herself.
Therefore, the conclusion is that Flemeth is evil. Because she consorts with an evil demon, and she is willing to kill her own daughter to extend her life.
Modifié par Original182, 24 novembre 2009 - 09:20 .
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