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[Indoctrinated Spectre]

 Is there an official list that shows who are the most powerful biotics in the mass effect universe? Not in general terms like "The Asari are born with astronomical latent boitic abilities." More like:

EX: god tier - benezia, Samara, etc..

For example, While Jack is insanely powerful with her biotics, how do hers stack up against an established Asari like Samara? Liara?

Modifié par Indoctrinated Spectre, 12 février 2012 - 08:07 .

[HAGA NAGA]

i would also find this interesting....

i always assumed Jack was head and shoulders above anyone's biotics thus far revealed in the mass effect lore but i'm not sure bioware came right out and said it but rather implied it via her story and what a big deal they made out of her being ridiculously restrained etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

[AgitatedLemon]

AFAIK there isn't an official list, but I do remember seeing some tweets (By Casey, I believe) comparing Jack and Samara.

Jack can burst higher than Samara, but Samara is much more disciplined and refined, and can control her biotics better and for a longer period of time. Jack gets tired is she sustains anything for too long.

In comparison to everyone else? Samara and Jack are leaps and bounds ahead of the other biotic squadmates, but some other characters in the lore may be equal to or more powerful than them. Benezia, for example, would be lumped onto the "god-tier", like you said.

[Raizo]

I would be interested in that to.

HAGA NAGA wrote...

i would also find this interesting....

i always assumed Jack was head and shoulders above anyone's biotics thus far revealed in the mass effect lore but i'm not sure bioware came right out and said it but rather implied it via her story and what a big deal they made out of her being ridiculously restrained etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

I would say that Jack is the most powerful human Biotic in the ME Universe although it is quite possible that Gillian Anderson in the ME books is proberly on her level or possibly more powerful than her ( she has created a sigularity which is said to be the most powerful Biotic skill in the Me Universe ). Having said that I'm sure that Asari Matriarcs are more powerful than Jack. Liara also seems to be given the god like strength treatment even though she is still only in her Maiden stage of life.

Modifié par Raizo, 12 février 2012 - 08:25 .

[D.Kain]

No official list but I have thought about it a lot, and for all biotics that are in the game:

By race:

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Asari ( natural biotics )
Krogan/Drell  ( advanced muslce structure, aka more fortitude for biotics )
Humans/Turians/Salarians/Quarians
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By known characters:

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Jack/Gillian  ( Mass effect biotic superheroes, rise above normal asari potential due to having unnatural powers, thanks to experiments. )
Samara/Morinth//Benezia/Aria ( Have lesser raw power then the above, HOWEVER have a lot more fortitude, and control, to make up for it in battle. Samara, Benezia and Aria for being Matriarchs and training for hundreds of years with high asari potential, and Morinth due to gaining power through melding. )
Liara/Wrex/Shepard/Shiala ( Liara/Shiala and Wrex both have high potential, in no small thanks to their race. Liara still is young, but very gifted, Wrex is old and had a lot of training for hundreds of years, Shiala has less potential than Liara but had more years to perfect biotics. Shepard due to advanced Cerberus upgrades, I would put ME1 Shepard beneath Liara/Shiala and Wrex, after ME2 I think he matches them. 
Kaidan/Miranda ( Top tear biotics, by human potential standards. )
Thane/Jacob ( Avarage biotics by human standards. )

I think I covered everything.

Modifié par D.Kain, 12 février 2012 - 08:36 .

[Russalka]

I would like to know where a biotic Shepard would stand. I wish people took notice of him/her being a biotic as well, or any other class.

Modifié par Russalka, 12 février 2012 - 08:30 .

[What a Succulent Ass]

I'm pretty sure Jack and Gillian do not outclass Samara and a matriarch. Gillian has potential, but she's still way too young. Jack becomes increasingly more powerful as time passes, but as raw ability goes, she's at most equal to Samara. Besides that, older asari have the courtesy of a near millennium to hone their skills.

[D.Kain]

Random Jerkface wrote...

I'm pretty sure Jack and Gillian do not outclass Samara and a matriarch. Gillian has potential, but she's still way too young. Jack becomes increasingly more powerful as time passes, but as raw ability goes, she's at most equal to Samara. Besides that, older asari have the courtesy of a near millennium to hone their skills.

Jack and Gillian outclass Matriarchs in a Shockwave style fight, they however get tired a lot faster. They do have higher potential, because it was build up in unnatural means. Think of it as.. Marvel! A lion is physicaly stronger than a human, but spiderman is stronger than a lion. 

Modifié par D.Kain, 12 février 2012 - 08:34 .

[Indoctrinated Spectre]

I was also wondering about Biotic Shepard, since we can create both types of Singularities. Also, in the comics, Aria T'Loak seems to be on another level as well. They tied her hands with some tech to nullify her biotic abilities, and she used her mouth to cast biotics, this cannot go unnoticed.

[D.Kain]

Indoctrinated Spectre wrote...

I was also wondering about Biotic Shepard, since we can create both types of Singularities. Also, in the comics, Aria T'Loak seems to be on another level as well. They tied her hands with some tech to nullify her biotic abilities, and she used her mouth to cast biotics, this cannot go unnoticed.

Oh forgot her!

[Raizo]

Random Jerkface wrote...

I'm pretty sure Jack and Gillian do not outclass Samara and a matriarch. Gillian has potential, but she's still way too young. Jack becomes increasingly more powerful as time passes, but as raw ability goes, she's at most equal to Samara. Besides that, older asari have the courtesy of a near millennium to hone their skills.

I would more or less put Jack and Samara on the same level. Having said that I'm pretty sure that Samara's potential hasn't peaked yet. How old is she, I think it is somewhere between 600 and the early 700's, she either hasn't entered the Matriarch stage of life yet or she is a very young Matriach. The thing that makes Samara soo dangerous is that she is a Justicar and has devoted the later part of her life to figting evil and injuctice, she probably uses her abilities alot more than normal Asari normally do and as such has honed them in very dangerous and creative ways.

[Raizo]

D.Kain wrote...

Indoctrinated Spectre wrote...

I was also wondering about Biotic Shepard, since we can create both types of Singularities. Also, in the comics, Aria T'Loak seems to be on another level as well. They tied her hands with some tech to nullify her biotic abilities, and she used her mouth to cast biotics, this cannot go unnoticed.

Oh forgot her!

Same here.

[Indoctrinated Spectre]

There is something interesting to note about Samara in ME2, once you can max out her asari class, one of the options describes her powers to rival that of an Asari Matriarch's, pretty interesting.

I wish there was official information to shed light on this topic.

[Raizo]

Indoctrinated Spectre wrote...

There is something interesting to note about Samara in ME2, once you can max out her asari class, one of the options describes her powers to rival that of an Asari Matriarch's, pretty interesting.

I wish there was official information to shed light on this topic.

That's why I'm certain she is not a Matriach yet. Why would her power rival a Matriarch's if she already was one.

[D.Kain]

"Samara's biotic abilities now rival those of an asari Matriarch, further reducing the recharge time of her powers."

From the wiki. Though I don't know what it is about this quote, it seems off. Samara IS a Matriarch herself and she is nearly thousand years old.

[What a Succulent Ass]

She's not a matriarch yet - she's around 650 - 700 years old. She's still a matron.

[D.Kain]

Random Jerkface wrote...

She's not a matriarch yet - she's around 650 - 700 years old. She's still a matron.

Morinth is about 400. So you want to say that Samara had 3 daughters before she hit 250-300, and also had the time to have that fun that she was talking about in her life?

Modifié par D.Kain, 12 février 2012 - 08:54 .

[Raizo]

D.Kain wrote...

Random Jerkface wrote...

She's not a matriarch yet - she's around 650 - 700 years old. She's still a matron.

Morinth is about 400. So you want to say that Samara had 3 daughters before she hit 250-300, and also had the time to have that fun that she was talking about in her life?

Yes. 

Modifié par Raizo, 12 février 2012 - 08:58 .

[D.Kain]

Then why? Wiki: "Samara is a nearly thousand-year-old asari justicar, a member of an ancient monastic order following a strict honor code".

[Raizo]

D.Kain wrote...

Then why? Wiki: "Samara is a nearly thousand-year-old asari justicar, a member of an ancient monastic order following a strict honor code".

Do you trust the wiki over what is said in the game.

[AgitatedLemon]

Raizo wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Then why? Wiki: "Samara is a nearly thousand-year-old asari justicar, a member of an ancient monastic order following a strict honor code".

Do you trust the wiki over what is said in the game.

Samara never gives her age in the game, and yes, I do trust the wiki, considering the official ME2 site says the exact same thing on her personal bio.

[DiscoDarth]

So.. nobody mention biotic god... "soon.jpg"

[D.Kain]

Raizo wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Then why? Wiki: "Samara is a nearly thousand-year-old asari justicar, a member of an ancient monastic order following a strict honor code".

Do you trust the wiki over what is said in the game.

Nah, just mean Samara had one busy life lol. In any case let's go back do biotics. 

[D.Kain]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Raizo wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Then why? Wiki: "Samara is a nearly thousand-year-old asari justicar, a member of an ancient monastic order following a strict honor code".

Do you trust the wiki over what is said in the game.

Samara never gives her age in the game, and yes, I do trust the wiki, considering the official ME2 site says the exact same thing on her personal bio.

No that site says that she is estimated 600.

[AgitatedLemon]

D.Kain wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Raizo wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Then why? Wiki: "Samara is a nearly thousand-year-old asari justicar, a member of an ancient monastic order following a strict honor code".

Do you trust the wiki over what is said in the game.

Samara never gives her age in the game, and yes, I do trust the wiki, considering the official ME2 site says the exact same thing on her personal bio.

No that site says that she is estimated 600.

Ah, I was mistaken then.

Still, "estimated" 600, doesn't mean that she necessarily is.