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[D.Kain]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Ah, I was mistaken then.

Still, "estimated" 600, doesn't mean that she necessarily is.

It just makes for a VERY busy life. I mean Morinth ran seclusion at about 50 years old. Samara chased her for 400 years. So that mean that Samara had a Merc or something life, and had 3 kids before she reached 150. 
I mean busy life for someone who lives 1000.

Modifié par D.Kain, 12 février 2012 - 09:15 .

[What a Succulent Ass]

150 - 200 years isn't a short time; I don't see how it isn't sufficient to be a wild merc. Hypothetically, if she settled at 200, had three children over the space of a century or so (and if Mirala/Morinth was the youngest), became a justicar 40 years later, and spent ten times that length hunting her daughter, that would still put her at only just under 750. As I recall, asari enter the matriarch phase at 700 (but I could be wrong).

There's a huge margin of error, but it's not unbelievable that those are overestimates, especially when the game indicates she's still a matron.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 12 février 2012 - 09:36 .

[CrazyCatDude]

Russalka wrote...

I would like to know where a biotic Shepard would stand. I wish people took notice of him/her being a biotic as well, or any other class.

Shepard is actually noted as being a fairly powerful human biotic.  Kaidan mentions this specifically when you're discussing his L2 Implants.  Shepard, even with L3's, is more powerful than an L2, but the L2 implants spike higher than the L3's.  Or, but another way, the L2's have higher through put than the L3's, so an L2 biotic will be able to output more than an L3 of the same potential, but Shepard, which is fitted with L3's in ME1 is noted for being more powerful than an L2.  In ME2, Shepard is upgraded to L5's.

I'd say Shepard probably matches an Asari Commando in terms of raw power, which, for a human, is really freaking impressive.  Not on Jack's level, but still way past Kaidan, Miranda or Jacob.

[Ice Cold J]

I'd say the general consensus theory on this is as follows:
1.Samara
1b. Morinth
2. Jack
3. Liara
4. Wrex/Miranda/Kaidan (Kaidan's an L2, so his biotics spike higher than most. Miranda's biotics were genetically enhanced, while Wrex has more experience wielding them)
7. Jacob (he's clearly and prominently stated as being a biotic, so it's a strong point of his)
8. Thane (more or less an afterthought. probably not as powerful as the others as he focuses more on using weapons and tactics to kill than raw biotic power)

as far as NPCs, assume that the Asari are NPCs are the strongest (the older the stronger), then I'd say humans or Turians, lastly Krogan. Can't think of any other race with more one known biotic...

EDIT: as far as Shepard goes, I would say that an Adept Shepard would sit somewhere between Liara and the Wrex/Miranda/Kaidan range, maybe closer to rivalling Liara.
Vanguards and Sentinels would most likely be on par with the W/M/K group.

Modifié par Ice Cold J, 13 février 2012 - 04:59 .

[Aurellia]

Here is the main powers thread

http://social.biowar...index/8213000/1

Modifié par Aurellia, 13 février 2012 - 05:05 .

[D.Kain]

Aurellia wrote...

Here is the main powers thread

http://social.biowar...index/8213000/1

Nah, this is different. We are thinking biotic potential of characters, not powers.

[GnusmasTHX]

Benezia is the strongest. All dem stasis's!

[D.Kain]

jreezy wrote...

Jack stronger than a 108 year old natural biotic? Lol.

Of course she is, as is Gillian. They were taken out of balance, beyond nature. I don't need to explain to you how unnatural things are "better" than the natural ones do I? You can just take the biggest, prettiest natural apple you can find, and compare it to a synthetic apple, I asure you the synthetic one will be bigger and more pretty, even if it is not very good for your health, and Jacks and Gillians health is not the best.

[HTTP 404]

D.Kain wrote...

Random Jerkface wrote...

She's not a matriarch yet - she's around 650 - 700 years old. She's still a matron.

Morinth is about 400. So you want to say that Samara had 3 daughters before she hit 250-300, and also had the time to have that fun that she was talking about in her life?

haha yah why not?  liara is little over 100 yet she probably can reproduce  that gives samara roughly 150 years to fit in three children? 

Modifié par HTTP 404, 13 février 2012 - 05:36 .

[D.Kain]

HTTP 404 wrote...

haha yah why not?  liara is little over 100 yet she probably can reproduce  that gives samara roughly 150 years to fit in three children? 

Just that according to the codex, asari like to settle down in the matron stage and not maiden stage. Other than that, sure, I mean everyone is different.

[Asenza]

D.Kain wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Jack stronger than a 108 year old natural biotic? Lol.

Of course she is, as is Gillian. They were taken out of balance, beyond nature. I don't need to explain to you how unnatural things are "better" than the natural ones do I? You can just take the biggest, prettiest natural apple you can find, and compare it to a synthetic apple, I asure you the synthetic one will be bigger and more pretty, even if it is not very good for your health, and Jacks and Gillians health is not the best.

This is probably the only time I will ever agree with you, D.Kain.

[SlottsMachine]

And Liara hasn't exactly been honing her craft for those 108 years.

Modifié par GeneralSlotts193, 13 février 2012 - 06:23 .

[xantanos]

nor are they good for you health, at least not if you ****** them off.
Back to the topic at hand. If i remember correctly, doesn't it say (or someone say) somewhere that the different stages of an asari life isn't measured in years but in experience. Some can enter their matron part of life sooner than others, and same for the matriarch. Furthermore i seriously doubt that sama would refer herself as matriarch as her life is devoted to the justicar way. And i think asari are fertile for as long as they live, they just happen to produce children during their matron stage

[paul165]

GeneralSlotts193 wrote...

And Liara hasn't exactly been honing her craft for those 108 years.

She's done quite a lot of honing her craft after all she was raised around very powerful biotics and commandos so would have picked up a few things before spending ~50 yrs defending herself solo in digs from pirates, slavers etc. And that's before ME1 followed by going to war with the SB.

Still agree Jack is more powerful but much like martial arts strength does not by itself tell you everything.

[Finis Valorum]

Ice Cold J wrote...

as far as Shepard goes, I would say that an Adept Shepard would sit somewhere between Liara and the Wrex/Miranda/Kaidan range, maybe closer to rivalling Liara.
Vanguards and Sentinels would most likely be on par with the W/M/K group.

Agree on Vanguards and Sentinels but Adept Shep has been getting weaker ever since they nerfed it in ME2, to the point where the Adept's most powerful ability in ME3 seems to be to be confined to a grenade any grunt could lob.
So I'd say in ME3 Adept Shep comes in dead last on the Biotic power list, maybe even lower then the Volus on drugs from ME2.

[D.Kain]

Finis Valorum wrote...

Ice Cold J wrote...

as far as Shepard goes, I would say that an Adept Shepard would sit somewhere between Liara and the Wrex/Miranda/Kaidan range, maybe closer to rivalling Liara.
Vanguards and Sentinels would most likely be on par with the W/M/K group.

Agree on Vanguards and Sentinels but Adept Shep has been getting weaker ever since they nerfed it in ME2, to the point where the Adept's most powerful ability in ME3 seems to be to be confined to a grenade any grunt could lob.
So I'd say in ME3 Adept Shep comes in dead last on the Biotic power list, maybe even lower then the Volus on drugs from ME2.

Dude ME3 Adept is a killing machine! 

[Incantrix]

Finis Valorum wrote...

Ice Cold J wrote...

as far as Shepard goes, I would say that an Adept Shepard would sit somewhere between Liara and the Wrex/Miranda/Kaidan range, maybe closer to rivalling Liara.
Vanguards and Sentinels would most likely be on par with the W/M/K group.

Agree on Vanguards and Sentinels but Adept Shep has been getting weaker ever since they nerfed it in ME2, to the point where the Adept's most powerful ability in ME3 seems to be to be confined to a grenade any grunt could lob.
So I'd say in ME3 Adept Shep comes in dead last on the Biotic power list, maybe even lower then the Volus on drugs from ME2.

Ok. Game mechanics =/=  Story adept shep. 


If that was the case, then shep would be the most powerful biotic.