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Did the start of the game (demo) feel really abrupt to anyone else here?


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#101
DJBare

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Don't bother. People want a two hour cut scene at the start of the game, with everyting from the trial, to Shep meeting Vega and Anderson brushing his teeth and getting dressed. Or maybe they're just complaining for the sake of it, I don't know.

Now you are just being silly, I'd need at least 3 hours to get all that in!

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JeffZero wrote...

ME2's really was worse.

'Ohai Joker and Pressly. Nice three lines apiece. Aaahh, attack! Oh noes, the Normandy asplode.'


I think the Earth bit from ME3 really shouldn't only be compared to the Normandy intro from ME2. Earth is to ME3 as Normandy + Lazarus Station is to ME2.

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And shiny, very shiny.

Too shiny. Everything looks like it's been hosed down with vaseline.



Not to my eyes it doesn't, but I respectfully understand that this is a fairly common opinion.

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@ArkkAngel007

No, actually: Earth = Miranda's and TIM's speech + Normandy under attack + Shepard's escape from that station.

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ArkkAngel007 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

ME2's really was worse.

'Ohai Joker and Pressly. Nice three lines apiece. Aaahh, attack! Oh noes, the Normandy asplode.'


Exactly.  Hopefully Mars is much better than Lazarus.


anything is better than lazarus

Modifié par PrinceOfFallout13, 13 février 2012 - 01:08 .


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Sora Shepherd wrote...

There was supposed to be a trial/hearing....but apparently that got cut. Shame now Earth is pretty much an afterthought.


you do realize that the reason why it was never introduced is because shepaloo was requested for the defence comitte right?
i mean after all whats more important? an event that happened 6 months before me3 or the fact that the reapers are here?

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RainyDayLover wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

ME2's really was worse.

'Ohai Joker and Pressly. Nice three lines apiece. Aaahh, attack! Oh noes, the Normandy asplode.'


I think the Earth bit from ME3 really shouldn't only be compared to the Normandy intro from ME2. Earth is to ME3 as Normandy + Lazarus Station is to ME2.


Fair.

Well the Normandy part was like ten minutes long, wasn't it? Lazarus was another 20. Albeit a 20 with far less auto-dialogue.

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Lagrim's beginning was nothing but auto-dialogue. It had explosions too. And it got GOTY. Go figure.

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The Earth portion itself is about 30-40 minutes
The normandy bit plus Lazarus station is around the same time.

Mars is more like Freedom Progress since you get put right into those locations

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As I said in another thread, at least it's not as bad as DA2s, where you start half way through the attack on Lothering. It'd be really weird if you started ME3 and the Reapers were on earth destroying everything. Just started with Joker freaking out over the comms "HOLY **** DUDE! HOLY ****!"

Not sure why bioware can't do good intros though, anymore anyway. I thought the previous games intros were all good. With the exception of DA2 and to a much lesser extent ME2.

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KotOR had a good intro? You start with your character asleep in the middle of a space battle. Great way to begin a game. At least it's better than the crap Bethesduh pump out.

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RainyDayLover wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

ME2's really was worse.

'Ohai Joker and Pressly. Nice three lines apiece. Aaahh, attack! Oh noes, the Normandy asplode.'


I think the Earth bit from ME3 really shouldn't only be compared to the Normandy intro from ME2. Earth is to ME3 as Normandy + Lazarus Station is to ME2.


This right is true. After the 10 minute portion of Earth is completed, we know what is going on and what we have to do. In ME2, we're still clueless about everything until the end of the Lazarus.

Modifié par Gibb_Shepard, 13 février 2012 - 01:13 .


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JeffZero wrote...

RainyDayLover wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

ME2's really was worse.

'Ohai Joker and Pressly. Nice three lines apiece. Aaahh, attack! Oh noes, the Normandy asplode.'


I think the Earth bit from ME3 really shouldn't only be compared to the Normandy intro from ME2. Earth is to ME3 as Normandy + Lazarus Station is to ME2.


Fair.

Well the Normandy part was like ten minutes long, wasn't it? Lazarus was another 20. Albeit a 20 with far less auto-dialogue.


Yeah, I still prefer the Earth stuff from ME3. Much more personal and really sets up the stage for the rest of the game.

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JeffZero wrote...

http://social.biowar.../1323620/184037

That should help convince people this is the real deal. Taken from another thread.


Oh :(

Well that's very disappointing :(

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JeffZero wrote...

RainyDayLover wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

ME2's really was worse.

'Ohai Joker and Pressly. Nice three lines apiece. Aaahh, attack! Oh noes, the Normandy asplode.'


I think the Earth bit from ME3 really shouldn't only be compared to the Normandy intro from ME2. Earth is to ME3 as Normandy + Lazarus Station is to ME2.


Fair.

Well the Normandy part was like ten minutes long, wasn't it? Lazarus was another 20. Albeit a 20 with far less auto-dialogue.


I timed the Normandy cutscene in one of my many playthroughs, I did it as fast as I could, skipping the dialog, and it was nine something. So, with dialog it'd probably be ten, maybe eleven. By the way, who decided it was a great idea to put in a nine to eleven minute, unskipable cutscene?

Modifié par Slidell505, 13 février 2012 - 01:15 .


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Then go back to Lagrim. I hear the intro to that game is breath-taking.

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Mclouvins wrote...

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We already had two games building up to the arrival of the Reapers. Do you REALLY need an extra 10 minutes before that happens?

Yes.


Of what, the same justification Shepard gave to Hackett at the end of arrival?

Yes.

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i just got done playing it and it didn't feel rushed, what it felt like to me was that a lot of content was left out, there was a lot of dialogue that seemed like it was auto-dialogue but that if it had not been a demo i would've been able to choose what i wanted to say

this is the "shortest" begining when you compare it to Eden Prime and Lazurus Station . . . that tells me that they cut a lot of content for spoiler reasons, i was concerned at first until i started playing it myself, Youtube videos just didn't convey the pace that i wanted to go at and it seemed to short for an "intro"

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N00blet666 wrote...

Bro, everybody is mad. Bioware should have never released that demo.

I'm going to have to agree with this. Obviously not everyone is annoyed by it but a large large number are.. still waiting on Bioware's response.

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FluffyScarf wrote...

Then go back to Lagrim. I hear the intro to that game is breath-taking.



Um, we get it, you have a vendetta against that game...

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Hey, the usual suspects have a vendetta against the demo for ME3. They're the same clowns who praise Lagrim as the greatest when it isn't even close to being good. It's only fair that Dullrim gets ripped into as well if they feel the need to dissect a demo and claim it as a mess/nail in BW's 'coffin'.

Modifié par FluffyScarf, 13 février 2012 - 01:21 .


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AxisEvolve wrote...

N00blet666 wrote...

Bro, everybody is mad. Bioware should have never released that demo.

I'm going to have to agree with this. Obviously not everyone is annoyed by it but a large large number are.. still waiting on Bioware's response.


you mean a large vocal minority right?

most people dont care

i know i dont

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Alex Arterius wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

http://social.biowar.../1323620/184037

That should help convince people this is the real deal. Taken from another thread.


Oh :(

Well that's very disappointing :(


It was a short answer though. It doesn't outright say it's the exactly same; it's just taken directly from the beginning. There's certainly more opportunity in there for dialogue.

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chengthao wrote...

i just got done playing it and it didn't feel rushed, what it felt like to me was that a lot of content was left out, there was a lot of dialogue that seemed like it was auto-dialogue but that if it had not been a demo i would've been able to choose what i wanted to say

this is the "shortest" begining when you compare it to Eden Prime and Lazurus Station . . . that tells me that they cut a lot of content for spoiler reasons, i was concerned at first until i started playing it myself, Youtube videos just didn't convey the pace that i wanted to go at and it seemed to short for an "intro"



Except nothing has been cut.

The beta tells us this. The text leaks tell us this. All signs indicate this is it and my link to another user's conversation with Priestly ought to confirm it for you.

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The only real abrubt thing to me was the whole Vega best friends thing. "oh hey their buddy" I dont even know you dude.