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[GodWood]

chengthao wrote...
then you don't understand Japanese culture, they don't "lower women", the Japanese highly respect women in their societies since the mother is the "foundation of all families" . . . all societies "objectify" women . . . the only Japanese culture we know of in the West is typically male-oriented (anime, video games, porn) but that isn't ALL of Japanese culture, ppl have a very biased and mostly uninformed view of the Japanese

Please. I have Japanese friends, I have friends who have lived in Japan and I've wasted away hours investigating their modern culture.

Aspects of their culture are fine sure, even admirable, their views on women however are absolutely disgusting. Not all Japanese may share these views but it's a common belief throughout Japanese culture that needs to be exterminated. 

Next time you're in Japan flick on a T.V and I'm sure you won't see a tough, intelligent woman completely secure in her independance.

Modifié par GodWood, 13 février 2012 - 01:50 .

[brain_damage]

ОH GOD NO KILL IT WITH FIRE

[LOLandStuff]

Forget Wrex. Here's Grunt:

[I-am-Biwinning]

EsterCloat wrote...

Yes, exactly as planned.

www.youtube.com

Next, Bishoujo Tali!

Lol yeah and its gotta have a removable faceplate for dem talimancers. Dat would be hella gud, we already kno what she looks like tbh www.youtube.com/watch

[chengthao]

GodWood wrote...
Please. I have Japanese friends, I have friends who have lived in Japan and I've wasted away hours investigating their modern culture.

Aspects of their culture are fine sure, even admirable, their views on women however are absolutely disgusting. Flick on a T.V in Japan and I'm sure you won't see a tough, intelligent woman completely secure in her independance.

AKB48 . . . look into them some time, Ayumi Hamasaki . . . look up about her sometime, there are a lot of "strong independent women" on Japanese TV

http://answers.yahoo...24152234AAbF7Lo

http://www.tokyohive...ebruary-6th9th/

Having Japanese friends doesn't mean you kno about the Japanese, i have Mexican friends, that doesn't make me Mexican

[Revan312]

chengthao wrote...

then you don't understand Japanese culture, they don't "lower women", the Japanese highly respect women in their societies since the mother is the "foundation of all families" . . . all societies "objectify" women . . . the only Japanese culture we know of in the West is typically male-oriented (anime, video games, porn) but that isn't ALL of Japanese culture, ppl have a very biased and mostly uninformed view of the Japanese

a little blurb from the Human Rights Examiner

////Unlike the numerous international treaties that the country willingly agreed to in the past, a legislation that protects the rights of a wife from her husband’s abuse is practically nowhere to be found. In 1985, Tokyo district court denied a woman’s request for divorce on the grounds that her husband forced her to have sexual intercourse. Instead, the court upheld that “it is no way illegal for a husband to demand sexual intercourse form a wife, nor does a wife have any rights to deny such a request.” In 1986, the same court denied another woman’s request seeking divorce on the grounds of her husband’s frequent rape. The court, instead held that “the husband had a right to force sexual intercourse and that the wife was at fault for not assuming her legal duty as a wife.”
Sexism in Japanese culture is therefore considered as a widely accepted custom rather than a serious social dilemma. While 70 percent of the interviewees during the survey of a man’s magazine answered that they had forced their wives to have sex, “no precedents exist in Japanese law stating that forced sex in marriage constitutes rape."////

Not gonna say that those things haven't cropped up in the US or other Westernized countries, but Japan is still pretty sexist, I mean of Japan's top 500 companies, women account for less than 1 percent of executives, compared with 10 percent in America and the U.K ..

Just adding a little fuel to the fire... and GO!

[chengthao]

Revan312 wrote...

a little blurb from the Human Rights Examiner

////Unlike the numerous international treaties that the country willingly agreed to in the past, a legislation that protects the rights of a wife from her husband’s abuse is practically nowhere to be found. In 1985, Tokyo district court denied a woman’s request for divorce on the grounds that her husband forced her to have sexual intercourse. Instead, the court upheld that “it is no way illegal for a husband to demand sexual intercourse form a wife, nor does a wife have any rights to deny such a request.” In 1986, the same court denied another woman’s request seeking divorce on the grounds of her husband’s frequent rape. The court, instead held that “the husband had a right to force sexual intercourse and that the wife was at fault for not assuming her legal duty as a wife.”
Sexism in Japanese culture is therefore considered as a widely accepted custom rather than a serious social dilemma. While 70 percent of the interviewees during the survey of a man’s magazine answered that they had forced their wives to have sex, “no precedents exist in Japanese law stating that forced sex in marriage constitutes rape."////

Not gonna say that those things haven't cropped up in the US or other Westernized countries, but Japan is still pretty sexist, I mean of Japan's top 500 companies, women account for less than 1 percent of executives, compared with 10 percent in America and the U.K ..

Just adding a little fuel to the fire... and GO!

yeah lets add fuel to racism

this isn't 1986, its 2012 . . . get some more recent stats then i'll argue

[Arppis]

chengthao wrote...

GodWood wrote...
Please. I have Japanese friends, I have friends who have lived in Japan and I've wasted away hours investigating their modern culture.

Aspects of their culture are fine sure, even admirable, their views on women however are absolutely disgusting. Flick on a T.V in Japan and I'm sure you won't see a tough, intelligent woman completely secure in her independance.

AKB48 . . . look into them some time, Ayumi Hamasaki . . . look up about her sometime, there are a lot of "strong independent women" on Japanese TV

http://answers.yahoo...24152234AAbF7Lo

http://www.tokyohive...ebruary-6th9th/

Having Japanese friends doesn't mean you kno about the Japanese, i have Mexican friends, that doesn't make me Mexican

Firsthand experience counts a lot.

[chengthao]

Arppis wrote...

chengthao wrote...

GodWood wrote...
Please. I have Japanese friends, I have friends who have lived in Japan and I've wasted away hours investigating their modern culture.

Aspects of their culture are fine sure, even admirable, their views on women however are absolutely disgusting. Flick on a T.V in Japan and I'm sure you won't see a tough, intelligent woman completely secure in her independance.

AKB48 . . . look into them some time, Ayumi Hamasaki . . . look up about her sometime, there are a lot of "strong independent women" on Japanese TV

http://answers.yahoo...24152234AAbF7Lo

http://www.tokyohive...ebruary-6th9th/

Having Japanese friends doesn't mean you kno about the Japanese, i have Mexican friends, that doesn't make me Mexican

Firsthand experience counts a lot.

apparently not to all the ppl arguing with me, ppl who know nothing about a culture always assume they know everything about it b/c "they have friends who are Japanese or black or mexican"

[GodWood]

chengthao wrote...
AKB48 . . . look into them some time, Ayumi Hamasaki . . . look up about her sometime, there are a lot of "strong independent women" on Japanese TV

AKB48 is your example of "strong, independant women" ?

That's ****ing hilarious.

Look dude, I get it, you're asian. That doesn't mean you have to defend everything within an asian culture.

chengthao wrote...
apparently not to all the ppl arguing with me, ppl who know nothing about a culture always assume they know everything about it b/c "they have friends who are Japanese or black or mexican"

I know because I read about it extensively, formed an opinion on it and then directly asked people who have first hand experience and knowledge of the culture so I could either confirm what I had thought or give me new insight.

That's the type of person i am.

Modifié par GodWood, 13 février 2012 - 02:04 .

[chengthao]

GodWood wrote...

chengthao wrote...
AKB48 . . . look into them some time, Ayumi Hamasaki . . . look up about her sometime, there are a lot of "strong independent women" on Japanese TV

AKB48 is your example of "strong, independant women" ?

That's ****ing hilarious.

Look dude, I get it, you're asian. That doesn't mean you have to defend everything within an asian culture.

heres more on AKB48 you should catch up on

http://www.intlwota....inist-is-akb48/

Modifié par chengthao, 13 février 2012 - 02:18 .

[Revan312]

chengthao wrote...

yeah lets add fuel to racism

this isn't 1986, its 2012 . . . get some more recent stats then i'll argue

You think sexism disappears over night? ooookk:whistle:

Also, that stat on the top 500 companies is recent.. just sayin. Japan, within the industrialised/Westernized world is one of the least fair towards women concerning employment..

Aaanndd, it's not racism I'm fueling, Japan is a country, not a race and their culture isn't a race either..

[Arppis]

Sooooo... the statues.

[chengthao]

Revan312 wrote...

chengthao wrote...

yeah lets add fuel to racism

this isn't 1986, its 2012 . . . get some more recent stats then i'll argue

You think sexism disappears over night? ooookk:whistle:

Also, that stat on the top 500 companies is recent.. just sayin. Japan, within the industrialised/Westernized world is one of the least fair towards women concerning employment..

Aaanndd, it's not racism I'm fueling, Japan is a country, not a race and their culture isn't a race either..

ok then your fueling bigotry torwards the Japanese

sexism might not "disappear" overnight but it does improve, i never said that sexism doesn't exist in Japan, I said ppl need to stop have biased, bigoted (and possibly racist) views on the Japanese

[Icinix]

Arppis wrote...

Sooooo... the statues.

The need to make them in babushka format.

Then we'll have a winner.

[Arppis]

Icinix wrote...

Arppis wrote...

Sooooo... the statues.

The need to make them in babushka format.

Then we'll have a winner.

THEN EVERYONE WOULD BE HAPPY!

Good plan!

But is it SO wrong to have something just for guys?

Modifié par Arppis, 13 février 2012 - 02:10 .

[LOLandStuff]

Icinix wrote...

Arppis wrote...

Sooooo... the statues.

The need to make them in babushka format.

Then we'll have a winner.

I'd pay for that.

[Lotion Soronarr]

I find it funny how poeple rage and rave agaisnt a "asianis-ed" FemShep.

Yet, half the ME comics and art on the internets is drawn in tons of different stlyes, many of them anime-ish. Hypocrisy? Racism? Stupidity?
Take your pick.

Oh, BSN, you amuse me so!

[Icinix]

Arppis wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Arppis wrote...

Sooooo... the statues.

The need to make them in babushka format.

Then we'll have a winner.

THEN EVERYONE WOULD BE HAPPY!

Good plan!

It works on so many levels too!

Liaras boobs too big? No problem! 5 decreasinly smaller dolls later - PRESTO! Itty bitty liara doll! Try saying her boobs are too big now!

Does your FemShep not fit on your ikea self mounted wall shelf due to a height issue? No problem! Just pop her open until you find the size that fits!

Its that simple!

Now if you call in the next fiteen minutes.....

[GodWood]

chengthao wrote...
ok then your fueling bigotry torwards the Japanese

sexism might not "disappear" overnight but it does improve, i never said that sexism doesn't exist in Japan, I said ppl need to stop have biased, bigoted (and possibly racist) views on the Japanese

I've yet to see any 'racist' views towards the japanese here. I've only pointed out the gross level of sexism that exists within their culture and you've chosen to have a knee jerk reaction and call racist.

It's really quite ridiculous. 100 years ago countries that were primarily caucasian held views that I'd define as disgustingly sexist

I guess that means I'm racist towards white people too.

Modifié par GodWood, 13 février 2012 - 02:14 .

[Arppis]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

I find it funny how poeple rage and rave agaisnt a "asianis-ed" FemShep.

Yet, half the ME comics and art on the internets is drawn in tons of different stlyes, many of them anime-ish. Hypocrisy? Racism? Stupidity?
Take your pick.

Oh, BSN, you amuse me so!

I think it's just that people have failed to notice them all.

Icinix wrote...

Arppis wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Arppis wrote...

Sooooo... the statues.

The need to make them in babushka format.

Then we'll have a winner.

THEN EVERYONE WOULD BE HAPPY! [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie]

Good plan!

It works on so many levels too!

Liaras
boobs too big? No problem! 5 decreasinly smaller dolls later - PRESTO!
Itty bitty liara doll! Try saying her boobs are too big now!

Does
your FemShep not fit on your ikea self mounted wall shelf due to a
height issue? No problem! Just pop her open until you find the size that
fits!

Its that simple!

Now if you call in the next fiteen minutes.....

Heck yeah! You are on a roll here!

Modifié par Arppis, 13 février 2012 - 02:14 .

[GodWood]

Back on topic I support the babushka idea.

[chengthao]

GodWood wrote...
I've yet to see any 'racist' views towards the japanese here. I've only pointed out the gross level of sexism that exists within their culture and you've chosen to have a knee jerk reaction and call racist.

It's really quite ridiculous. 100 years ago countries that were primarily caucasian held views that I'd define as disgustingly sexist

I guess that means I'm racist towards white people too.

its racists b/c you decided to call out an entire country as being disgusting b/c "of the way they treat women"

[didymos1120]

chengthao wrote...

its racists b/c you decided to call out an entire country as being disgusting b/c "of the way they treat women"

Um, no it's making a value judgment about a culture.  Or is that not allowed?

[GodWood]

No, not the country, it's culture.

E.g) Ancient Athenian Culture was sexist. 19th century American culture was racist, etc etc.