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[CROAT_56]

I thaught that frigates are the largest ships that could be planet side due to there weight and gravity, even the Normandy can't land on some planets due to her size? But in the demo there is a dreadnaught getting blown up in atmosphere.  Did bioware just mess up the diolague or am I missing something in the Codex?

[Mr. MannlyMan]

It's just a lore oversight. Not a major one, though.

Modifié par Mr. MannlyMan, 13 février 2012 - 04:59 .

[Dean_the_Young]

Landing in atmosphere =/= flying through it.

Nothing says Dreadnaughts can't fly in atmosphere.

[ediskrad327]

mass effect fields

[bleetman]

Being in the atmosphere and landing on the surface/taking off again aren't the same thing.

[CROAT_56]

ah ok that makes more sense but still that is an extreme weight to push through the air.

Edit forgot it was landing in atmosphere

Modifié par CROAT_56, 13 février 2012 - 05:01 .

[Influxive]

There was a thread about this before that got flamed to all hell.

If it was a mistake, it was a simple one. Oh well. Bioware could have messed it up, or perhaps, as you said, there was a mistake in the dialogue.

To me, it's not a big issue at all, so, 'Meh'.

[Inutaisho7996]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Landing in atmosphere =/= flying through it.

Nothing says Dreadnaughts can't fly in atmosphere.

There still has to be some event horizon where a dreadnaught can't escape the planet's gravity. Gravity isn't a very strong force so the difference in the ship's weight on the planet and a couple hundred feet above the surface would be negligable. 


The Normandy is no where near to the ship we see getting blown up; it take the Normandy several minutes to get to a spot a hundred or so feet away from where Anderson and Shepard are when they see the explosion. When the Virmire survivor is warning Joker about the dreadnaught they tell him to take evasive action; this implies that they're close enough to the dreadnaught they would be affected by the explosion. I don't think the ship Anderson and Shepard see explode is a dreadnaught.

Modifié par Inutaisho7996, 13 février 2012 - 05:09 .

[Ramus Quaritch]

I thought it was a cruiser instead of a dreadnought. At least it looked like the Alliance Cruiser model ship in ME2 in Shepard's quarters.

[Chris Priestly]

I would think in times of a massive alien invasion (both a massive attack and massive aliens) you are willing to risk the damage to the planet to try to repell the attackers.

[LetMeW1n]

I still say that no way in hell is VS referring to the cruiser you see blow up when s/he said "dreadnought"

[Hunter of Legends]

It's a cruiser folks move along.

[Mr. MannlyMan]

Do we even have references for different ship classes?

[Hunter of Legends]

Chris Priestly wrote...

I would think in times of a massive alien invasion (both a massive attack and massive aliens) you are willing to risk the damage to the planet to try to repell the attackers.

The ship model used in-game is far too small to be a dreadnaught.

[yamomoto]

"Dreadnoughts are so large that it is impossible to safely land them on a planet.."
quote from mass effect wikia

so only landing on a planet would be ALMOST impossible for a dreadnought, but not entirely.

[Shad0wOGRE]

Sovereign dispproves the "Dreadnaughts can't land or fly in atmosphere" lore in the first game. Take codex entries with a grain of salt. Go with the canon evidence you observe.

[Tall Boss]

Chris probably hit that nail on the head. Plus there might of have been some new tech that could of made the ships more mobile/stable.

[JMurray21]

Ashley tells joker to watch out for the dreadnought. The Normandy is nowhere near the ship that blows in front of Shepard. Odds are the one that blew up in atmosphere is a different ship.

[CROAT_56]

Chris Priestly wrote...

I would think in times of a massive alien invasion (both a massive attack and massive aliens) you are willing to risk the damage to the planet to try to repell the attackers.

Agreed completely just was curious thaught it would not handle the preasures after re-entry but thanks for the clerification

[Mr. MannlyMan]

CommanderNuetral wrote...

Sovereign dispproves the "Dreadnaughts can't land or fly in atmosphere" lore in the first game. Take codex entries with a grain of salt. Go with the canon evidence you observe.

I thought it was established that Sovereign (and every Reaper) is, technologically-speaking, FAR ahead of any Alliance ship.

[ramdog7]

yamomoto wrote...

"Dreadnoughts are so large that it is impossible to safely land them on a planet.."
quote from mass effect wikia

so only landing on a planet would be ALMOST impossible for a dreadnought, but not entirely.

everybody is missing the big picture the dreadnought never landed on earth it was in the sky all the time

[Inutaisho7996]

CommanderNuetral wrote...

Sovereign dispproves the "Dreadnaughts can't land or fly in atmosphere" lore in the first game. Take codex entries with a grain of salt. Go with the canon evidence you observe.

Reapers are highly advanced warships with the enormous eezo core that it needed to reduce their mass to make them light enough to escape the a planet's gravity. The dreadnaughts built by the other races don't have large enough eezo cores to do that, so they will always be too heavy for their engines to lift off of the ground.

[CROAT_56]

I'm gonna go with the thing we saw blow up is a cruiser and the dreadnaught VS was referring to is somewhere else all together.

[Knubbsal]

The codex was right. It did indeed not safely land.

[LetMeW1n]

^A 'Dreadnought' hovering in the air a couple hundred meters from the ground takes about the same amount Eezo control to land it safely.

The Normandy's in freaking orbit. The dreadnought mention and the cruiser exploding in front of you are two different things, and both are just meant to drive home the message of imminent defeat in the air and space around Earth.