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[Darkfoxz87]

CerberusSoldier wrote...

N00blet666 wrote...

MAZ77 wrote...

N00blet666 wrote...

MAZ77 wrote...

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

breyant wrote...

I was replaying ME1 and was thinking... Shepard pretty much never says a single thing without your direction... ME2 is pretty much the same way.

Hopefully it's only like that in ME3 for the beginning levels so they can set up the story.

You don't get it, do you? 


<_<

See little pieces like that is fine. I expect a little auto dialogue but the demo had a lot of auto dialogue. Hence why everyone is concerned that the entire game is going to be this way. 

As someone who has read the script, I got the impression that the answers don't vary much and you get an awful lot of one-liners and scripted dialogue; MUCH more than in ME 1&2.

If thats true then that is a deal breaker for me. I don't see why they would change the way the dialgue system works at all. It was done very well in both ME1 and 2.

  


Its called evolution of the system and I like it you ME 1 fans need to deal with the changes

How is less option evolution? Mass Effect 2 did the dialogue perfeclty, Hell I will even say it is the best part of the game. This isn't evolution, this is 100 steps backwards. 

[Jaron Oberyn]

Except that's not how it works out Pyro. Action mode is no dialogue choices. Story and rpg mode are occasional sentence choices every 15 minutes of automatic dialogue. It's not the same.


-Polite

[Noble Pyro]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

@Noble Pyro - when was that written? Because not long ago Mac Walters said the trial part was removed and now happens before the game starts.

-Polite

That post from Chris Priestly was 12 hours ago...

[Jaron Oberyn]

Well he must be referring to the defense hearing not the trial, because Walters stated in a tweet that it was removed and takes place before the game.


-Polite

Modifié par PoliteAssasin, 13 février 2012 - 05:31 .

[wright1978]

What's manual about choices if they are auto dialoguing my Shep from the moment i import with no direction from me during RPG mode.

[Jaron Oberyn]

@Pyro - you distorted his quote. I just read it, and it fits perfectly with what Walters said, the trial is before the game.

@Wright - well manually choosing a sentence after 15 minutes of dialogue constitutes "full decisions" apparently.


-Polite

Modifié par PoliteAssasin, 13 février 2012 - 05:34 .

[CerberusSoldier]

Darkfoxz87 wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

N00blet666 wrote...

MAZ77 wrote...

N00blet666 wrote...

MAZ77 wrote...

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

breyant wrote...

I was replaying ME1 and was thinking... Shepard pretty much never says a single thing without your direction... ME2 is pretty much the same way.

Hopefully it's only like that in ME3 for the beginning levels so they can set up the story.

You don't get it, do you? 


<_<

See little pieces like that is fine. I expect a little auto dialogue but the demo had a lot of auto dialogue. Hence why everyone is concerned that the entire game is going to be this way. 

As someone who has read the script, I got the impression that the answers don't vary much and you get an awful lot of one-liners and scripted dialogue; MUCH more than in ME 1&2.

If thats true then that is a deal breaker for me. I don't see why they would change the way the dialgue system works at all. It was done very well in both ME1 and 2.

  


Its called evolution of the system and I like it you ME 1 fans need to deal with the changes

How is less option evolution? Mass Effect 2 did the dialogue perfeclty, Hell I will even say it is the best part of the game. This isn't evolution, this is 100 steps backwards. 

   


It is a evoultion of the system they found a better way to do dialogue oh so you all want the same ol sh*t I see thats whats wrong with the games industry the developers are too busy being slaves to a game fans and not busy creating new and exciting video games . you have a choice to buy or not to buy it simple as that . new idea are needed in games not the same ol sh*t

[bluewolv1970]

wright1978 wrote...

What's manual about choices if they are auto dialoguing my Shep from the moment i import with no direction from me during RPG mode.

nothing - RPG mode and story mode seem to be misleading bordering on outright lying based on the description

Modifié par bluewolv1970, 13 février 2012 - 05:37 .

[Noble Pyro]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

@Pyro - you distorted his quote. I just read it, and it fits perfectly with what Walters said, the trial is before the game.

@Wright - well manually choosing a sentence after 15 minutes of dialogue constitutes "full decisions" apparently.


-Polite

How can i distort a quote when I press the "Quote" button.

[Jaron Oberyn]

Keep spamming CerberusSoldier I'm sure Mr. woo would love to flex his guns of moderation in your midst.


-Polite

[CerberusSoldier]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Except that's not how it works out Pyro. Action mode is no dialogue choices. Story and rpg mode are occasional sentence choices every 15 minutes of automatic dialogue. It's not the same.


-Polite

 


Its different in story mode good 

[N00blet666]

Has anyone tried private messaging anybody we could get this whole mess sorted out that way.

[Darkfoxz87]

Noble Pyro wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

First step action mode, second step auto dialogue, third step no dialogue choices and just turn into linear shooter.

BioWare was simple trying to cater to all types of game play. The feedback from gamers on the previous ME games are now choices indicated in ME3 in hopes to appease those different playing styles.
 
Some people liked less dialogue choices, they gave them the option of Action Mode.

Some people liked more dialogue choices less combat, they gave them the option of Story Mode.

Some people want to keep the how the game was played in the first 2 games, they gave them the option of RPG Mode.

 
Action Mode-Not a fan but it is fine. Bioware wants to make more cash  appeal to other gamers.

Story Mode and RPG mode: They F*^K'D us. Auto Dialogue with the occasinal Wheel? That isn't how Mass Effect should be. Choices Choices Choices. Not Auto Auto Auto.

If we wanted auto we would play Action mode, not RPG mode. 

[bluewolv1970]

CerberusSoldier wrote...

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Except that's not how it works out Pyro. Action mode is no dialogue choices. Story and rpg mode are occasional sentence choices every 15 minutes of automatic dialogue. It's not the same.


-Polite

 


Its different in story mode good 

NO it is not actually

[bluewolv1970]

Darkfoxz87 wrote...

Noble Pyro wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

First step action mode, second step auto dialogue, third step no dialogue choices and just turn into linear shooter.

BioWare was simple trying to cater to all types of game play. The feedback from gamers on the previous ME games are now choices indicated in ME3 in hopes to appease those different playing styles.
 
Some people liked less dialogue choices, they gave them the option of Action Mode.

Some people liked more dialogue choices less combat, they gave them the option of Story Mode.

Some people want to keep the how the game was played in the first 2 games, they gave them the option of RPG Mode.

 
Action Mode-Not a fan but it is fine. Bioware wants to make more cash  appeal to other gamers.

Story Mode and RPG mode: They F*^K'D us. Auto Dialogue with the occasinal Wheel? That isn't how Mass Effect should be. Choices Choices Choices. Not Auto Auto Auto.

If we wanted auto we would play Action mode, not RPG mode. 

QFT

[Jaron Oberyn]

@Pyro - you said priestly said the trial was in game. He didn't. He said the trial is before the game, and the end of the trial is in the game, the defense hearing from the demo. This coincides with Mac Walters saying that the trial was no longer in game, and that it takes place before ME3.

Regardless, you think that if there was a trial there wouldn't be more auto dialogue? Come on.

-Polite

[Jaron Oberyn]

N00blet666 wrote...

Has anyone tried private messaging anybody we could get this whole mess sorted out that way.

I private messages priestly, even tweeted him and all of the writers/developers. Nothing at all. They're avoiding answering which tells me the game must continue to heavily use the auto dialogue. Try your luck at tweeting them.


-Polite

[bluewolv1970]

N00blet666 wrote...

Has anyone tried private messaging anybody we could get this whole mess sorted out that way.

yes - with no repsonse - so what does that suggest...

[CerberusSoldier]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Keep spamming CerberusSoldier I'm sure Mr. woo would love to flex his guns of moderation in your midst.


-Polite

  


really you call that a spam oh please . Oh so am I suppose to be a pro Bioware butt kisser because of that . I had a reasonable logical post and now you ass clown want to threaten me with a mod well since you did that you can basically take your little threat and shove it right back up your ass ,  now why don't you choke on that you ass kisser . if that brings the mod down on me well I don't give a dam . 

[Noble Pyro]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

@Pyro - you said priestly said the trial was in game. He didn't. He said the trial is before the game, and the end of the trial is in the game, the defense hearing from the demo. This coincides with Mac Walters saying that the trial was no longer in game, and that it takes place before ME3.

Regardless, you think that if there was a trial there wouldn't be more auto dialogue? Come on.

-Polite

Noble Pyro wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

There is no trial.

Yes there is. It's how you start the game.

This is from a BioWare employee indicating content was removed from said DEMO. By saying yes there is a trial that starts the game. The DEMO clearly did not show this.

This is what I said...

[Rickin10]

It is a evoultion of the system they found a better way to do dialogue oh so you all want the same ol sh*t I see thats whats wrong with the games industry the developers are too busy being slaves to a game fans and not busy creating new and exciting video games . you have a choice to buy or not to buy it simple as that . new idea are needed in games not the same ol sh*t

A better way to do dialogue? You mean by removing choice like, oh say, 90% of games on the market? Could you elaborate how this is a better way?

 I'd tentatively agree that what is wrong with the games industry is bending over to 'fans' .  But not long running fans of a particular series, more like forgetting about these people and chasing the money of the mass market. lowest-common-denominator gamers.  

[N00blet666]

CerberusSoldier wrote...

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Keep spamming CerberusSoldier I'm sure Mr. woo would love to flex his guns of moderation in your midst.


-Polite

  


really you call that a spam oh please . Oh so am I suppose to be a pro Bioware butt kisser because of that . I had a reasonable logical post and now you ass clown want to threaten me with a mod well since you did that you can basically take your little threat and shove it right back up your ass ,  now why don't you choke on that you ass kisser . if that brings the mod down on me well I don't give a dam . 

Calm down guys it's okay try to relax. Just having a conversation.

[Darkfoxz87]

-SNIP-

[quote]Darkfoxz87 wrote...

[/quote]

How is less option evolution? Mass Effect 2 did the dialogue perfeclty, Hell I will even say it is the best part of the game. This isn't evolution, this is 100 steps backwards. [/quote]   

[quote]CerberusSoldier wrote...
It is a evoultion of the system they found a better way to do dialogue oh so you all want the same ol sh*t I see thats whats wrong with the games industry the developers are too busy being slaves to a game fans and not busy creating new and exciting video games . you have a choice to buy or not to buy it simple as that . new idea are needed in games not the same ol sh*t

[/quote]

But this isn't better, Auto Dialogue is a horrable idea for a game that has had Dialogue choices since the first one. Dialogue has been my favorite thing about the game and I'm sure others feel the same. I don't understand how you think giving us Less options is evolution. Just beacuse it is diffrent dosen't mean it is evoultion. 

And I agree on the inivation. I hate COD, it gets more sales than Mass Effect will ever get while it is the same crap year after year.

But there is a diffrence about not changing at all and keeping to the games roots. Mass Effects roots? Choices. From what I could tell Mass Effect kepts its roots whith Dialogue and Story from its transition to Mass Effect 2, While also immproving Combat. Mass Effect 2 to 3 seems to pull the games roots from under the rug and foucus more on combat, than the story and the choices.

Modifié par Darkfoxz87, 13 février 2012 - 05:54 .

[BatmanPWNS]

CerberusSoldier wrote...

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Keep spamming CerberusSoldier I'm sure Mr. woo would love to flex his guns of moderation in your midst.


-Polite

  


really you call that a spam oh please . Oh so am I suppose to be a pro Bioware butt kisser because of that . I had a reasonable logical post and now you ass clown want to threaten me with a mod well since you did that you can basically take your little threat and shove it right back up your ass ,  now why don't you choke on that you ass kisser . if that brings the mod down on me well I don't give a dam . 

Even though I agree you did not spam, no need to rage dude.

Edit- Oh and people, stop using COD as an excuse. What do they have in common? They both have guns. That's it. Halo also has guns. GOW also has guns. Battlefield also has guns. GTA has guns. If you're going to call it COD clone then you really have no idea what type of COD is.

Modifié par BatmanPWNS, 13 février 2012 - 05:51 .

[bluewolv1970]

Rickin10 wrote...

It is a evoultion of the system they found a better way to do dialogue oh so you all want the same ol sh*t I see thats whats wrong with the games industry the developers are too busy being slaves to a game fans and not busy creating new and exciting video games . you have a choice to buy or not to buy it simple as that . new idea are needed in games not the same ol sh*t

A better way to do dialogue? You mean by removing choice like, oh say, 90% of games on the market? Could you elaborate how this is a better way?

 I'd tentatively agree that what is wrong with the games industry is bending over to 'fans' .  But not long running fans of a particular series, more like forgetting about these people and chasing the money of the mass market. lowest-common-denominator gamers.  

 Bioware is no even trying to pretend there is choice/dialogue in their next game at least...They ahd to mislead on this one though