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"War tends to make everyone a little loco". James Vega Support Thread - Resistance Is Futile!


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Please tell me I'm not the only one who seriously wants Vega to be a romance option! He may look like a serious meathead, but that doesn't mean he is one!

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Terraforming wrote...
Sort of tangential, but this vein of discussion makes me hope that we can get some background-specific dialogue with him as well. Since my Shep has the Sole Survivor background, it will be interesting to see if there is any relatability to whatever happened to him with Fehl.


I would certainly hope so. I think it would be negligent of the writers if they didn't explore this option.  They did say that there is more emphasis on the different backgrounds than ME2, which is good in my opinion. 

I don't expect a drastic change in scenes, but it would be nice if the conversations were varied depending on shep's experiences.

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I think I may actually go and reserve a copy of the prima guide so I can find out if he is or isn't a LI. The not knowing is almost too great for me to do nothing. ^_^

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Chewin3 wrote...

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Y'know, I still have pretty solid confidence that Vega is an LI because of some things the devs have said, most notably Caroline Livingstone. She said that working with Freddie Prinze, Jr in the booth was a lot of fun, and even made her blush. Hm, I wonder why he'd make her blush.


I would hardly count that as evidence that he is a LI based on Caroline's tweet. Vega flirts with FemShep in the game, and she could have easily blushed from that.


Perhaps, but I have no idea why on Earth the devs would risk major fan blowback by letting him flirt with you, but then be like, "Hehe jk, not for you." I know they're already doing that with one character (though the flirting isn't terribly extensive), and there's going to be a lot of grief given... If they did that with another character, I think they risk some severe fan disappointment. The romances were a huge factor in selling the original game, so they made more options for 2...no reason they'd skimp on them now. Even with budget constraints, I can't see why they'd limit one of the biggest selling points of the series.

Plus, Patrick Weeks tweeted yesterday in response to a fan that was concerned about having new male LIs for her single FemShep, and he said that there were options. You can romance Kaidan if you missed him in ME1, but that hardly counts as "options." Like I've said before, I wouldn't trust flags pulled from old beta code in the demo or old builds. Maybe that's just me.

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Well, I have no proof either way. But everything abt his "build" screams potential LI to me.

Yes, there have been similarities in story between what we've seen..and, uh, what we weren't supposed to see. But we really haven't seen that much of the story at all. There's alot more to the game that we have no idea if it's similar to...other sources, or not.

Also, w/ things like the DA2 romance w/ Fenris. lol After my Hawke got w/Fenris, and then he dumped Hawke, I thought that was it. I had no idea that if Hawke held out a lil longer that the romance w/ Fenris could and would continue. lol.

It was quite some time b4 I knew that. So, this..source may not have fully explored the potential romance of Vega, and didn't realize that some things were just a part of the road to romance.

Besides which, everybody on the Normandy seems to be romance-able to sum degree. Even Chobot., the darn ANN reporter. Yes, she is romance-able..and BI, I believe.

Except for Joker. Sorry Jokermancers. Truly.

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Also, they don't usually let us flirt w/ a character if they're not romance-able.

Maybe they added that for giggles, but I doubt it.

Usually if you can flirt w/ them, you can have them. Sebastian, well, Sebastian was DLC to start w/, but it was still a "romance". A chaste one, but one nonetheless.

So, that's my 2 cents. It'll be interesting meeting Vega in game and trying to discern if he is a potential. And how sweet the surprise if he slaps a passionate kiss on Shepard.

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Also, they don't usually let us flirt w/ a character if they're not romance-able.

Samara.
Joker.
Aveline.
Varric.
At least one character in SWTOR.

They generally didn't allow flirting with non-LIs in older Bioware games, maybe, but in the newer ones, certainly so.

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Collider wrote...

Also, they don't usually let us flirt w/ a character if they're not romance-able.

Samara.
Joker.
Aveline.
Varric.
At least one character in SWTOR.

They generally didn't allow flirting with non-LIs in older Bioware games, maybe, but in the newer ones, certainly so.


Ah, yes...

Altho, I don't recall being able to flirt w/ Joker or Varric. Aveline gets abt one throw away line. Samara gets a bit more, but really just one scene.

It sounds to me like there is a bit more flirtation between Shepard and Vega.

But if you really wanna Insist that there's no romance between Vega and Shepard, then..whatever. Personally, I take your "source" along w/ everything else on the matter--good, or bad---w/ a grain of salt until the final game is in my hands.

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Collider wrote...

Also, they don't usually let us flirt w/ a character if they're not romance-able.

Samara.
Joker.
Aveline.
Varric.
At least one character in SWTOR.

They generally didn't allow flirting with non-LIs in older Bioware games, maybe, but in the newer ones, certainly so.


Yeah the opposite is true. They usually don't flirt with the PC if they're not romanceble.

I.E. PC flirts and then gets shut down.

Samara - Time in my life is over
Joker - regs
Aveline - it goes over her head for the most part
Varric - You're too high maintence for me Hawke
Not sure about SWTOR cause I haven't played it.

So I'm not sure why flirting and then getting shut down would cause you to blush. Unless it's in humilation.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 20 février 2012 - 08:26 .


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I seriously hope that James is a LI.
After the stunt Kaidan pulled on horizon I was left wishing that pushing him off the normandy as you were leaving earth was an option.

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you know, there's something I wonder abt. Vega. I was watching the VA reveal vid., and James is talking abt. how he basically sacrificed sum ppl--his squad? civilians? idk.--to get the intel that could destroy the Collectors.

Then, of course, Shep swoops in and destroys the Collectors.

I wonder if there's a bit of....issue? angst? slight resentment?...over that fact. Vega sacrificed these ppl I take it, and for what? It ends up to be for nothing.

That can't sit well.

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by Padzi on deviantart. love this. how fun it is. get well soon, Vega thread :(

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rapscallioness wrote...

you know, there's something I wonder abt. Vega. I was watching the VA reveal vid., and James is talking abt. how he basically sacrificed sum ppl--his squad? civilians? idk.--to get the intel that could destroy the Collectors.

Then, of course, Shep swoops in and destroys the Collectors.

I wonder if there's a bit of....issue? angst? slight resentment?...over that fact. Vega sacrificed these ppl I take it, and for what? It ends up to be for nothing.

That can't sit well.


A cryptic tweet from one of the writers said that Vega was a HUGE Shepard fan... once. Yeah, I could see your senaro play out, as well as the fact that Shepard was sort-of a member of Cerberus, and Cerberus personel are now (apparently) working for the Reapers.

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James Vega reminds me a lot of Sam Worthington from Terminator Salvation/Avatar.

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 My feeling on the whole rumour, this is how I will deal with a possible vagina block ;)

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Cellophanatic wrote...

I seriously hope that James is a LI.
After the stunt Kaidan pulled on horizon I was left wishing that pushing him off the normandy as you were leaving earth was an option.


Haha thats how I feel. I wanted nothing more than my Shep to be with Kaidan at the start of ME2 but then he was so cold to her on Horizon and we didn't get to interact with him since then apparently. So I want my Shep to be able to move on.....with Vega Image IPB

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NicoNicastro wrote...

Cellophanatic wrote...

I seriously hope that James is a LI.
After the stunt Kaidan pulled on horizon I was left wishing that pushing him off the normandy as you were leaving earth was an option.


Haha thats how I feel. I wanted nothing more than my Shep to be with Kaidan at the start of ME2 but then he was so cold to her on Horizon and we didn't get to interact with him since then apparently. So I want my Shep to be able to move on.....with Vega Image IPB





Exactly!
I also thought the e-mail/apology was super ridiculous. I feel like he's more of a woman the Shep. 

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Cellophanatic wrote...

NicoNicastro wrote...

Cellophanatic wrote...

I seriously hope that James is a LI.
After the stunt Kaidan pulled on horizon I was left wishing that pushing him off the normandy as you were leaving earth was an option.


Haha thats how I feel. I wanted nothing more than my Shep to be with Kaidan at the start of ME2 but then he was so cold to her on Horizon and we didn't get to interact with him since then apparently. So I want my Shep to be able to move on.....with Vega.

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Exactly!

I also thought the e-mail/apology was super ridiculous. I feel like he's more of a woman the Shep. 


Remember when Kaidan/Ashley made that STUPID charge that Shepard should consider that Cerberus may be working for the Collectors/Reapers? I wonder if s/he tells Shepard, "I told you so!" when the first Cerberus attack squad shows up in ME3.

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Generally, everything he's said has matched up to how the game actually is. Depending on your interpretation, he may have gotten multiplayer slightly wrong, but everything single player has been spot on so far.

I think it's possible he's been playing an old build that he didn't have the James romance implemented yet.

I also think it's possible instead that James doesn't have a romance exactly, but you can flirt and at the end (last minute talk before the final battle, basically) there's hinting that there's something or could be something between Shepard and Vega. Depending on your dialog choices.

That is compatible with Vega's absence in the "truelove" variables because those variables seem to be for binding players to a romance (as far as I can guess, anyway). Since Vega may not really have one, except for the very end maybe, it wouldn't make sense for the game to commit the player to James when there's only been flirting.

So if there's flirting but it doesn't lead to anything until the very end, it'd be very easy for someone playing the game to think preemptively that there's no real romance content with him.

That doesn't explain why Allers is in the variables, though. So far as we know she's just a fling, and one you can go into behind your "main" love interest's back, apparently. Maybe they expanded her?

Also, the absence of Samantha Traynor in the variables. Maybe they cut the character, or cut her romance. Or perhaps more plausibly, someone mixed up names and it's supposed to be Traynor instead of Allers in the variables. Samantha's name shows up in the demo files, so that makes cutting her out less credible.

Vega being a light "option" might end just being a pittance, ultimately, though. There seems to be no romance scene, at best you get a couple/few lines maybe, going by the script. It wouldn't make up for otherwise just having Garrus or Kaidan. As far as the likelihood of Bioware pulling off no Vega LI and barely any female Shepard straight options? I wouldn't put it past them. They generally put most attention and effort for the straight male player. Especially for Mass Effect, too - Dragon Age is a lot more equal, in my opinion.


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Abispa wrote...

Cellophanatic wrote...

NicoNicastro wrote...

Cellophanatic wrote...

I seriously hope that James is a LI.
After the stunt Kaidan pulled on horizon I was left wishing that pushing him off the normandy as you were leaving earth was an option.


Haha thats how I feel. I wanted nothing more than my Shep to be with Kaidan at the start of ME2 but then he was so cold to her on Horizon and we didn't get to interact with him since then apparently. So I want my Shep to be able to move on.....with Vega.

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Exactly!

I also thought the e-mail/apology was super ridiculous. I feel like he's more of a woman the Shep. 


Remember when Kaidan/Ashley made that STUPID charge that Shepard should consider that Cerberus may be working for the Collectors/Reapers? I wonder if s/he tells Shepard, "I told you so!" when the first Cerberus attack squad shows up in ME3.




That really just depends on how you played it through. 
You could make your shepard stay loyal to the Alliance or become loyal to Cerberus. 
I don't know the exact line, but it was along the lines that Shepard didn't trust Cerberus and expected them to betray you. 
Personally, my Shepard wasn't "with" Cerberus, they just had a common goal. She stayed loyal to the alliance. Perhaps i was a little hard on Kaidan, I just wish there was a little more of a difference in the Horizon scene and the outcome. 

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xKreed wrote...

Please tell me I'm not the only one who seriously wants Vega to be a romance option! He may look like a serious meathead, but that doesn't mean he is one!


If he's a meathead then he's a meathead THAT I REALLY WANT TO ROMANCE, BIOWARE. <_<
So I'm with you, Kreed. You're definitely not the only one. 

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Well at least femSheps got a half-axed email from Alenko, none of mine even got that...very disappointed about that. So that's why there will be some serious Shega up in here...unless Alenko has a damn good reason for driving that knife into Sheploo.

I catagorically reject all anti male Shenko and/or Shega propaganda.

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My Femshep DEMANDS Vega.

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Aurora313 wrote...

My Femshep DEMANDS Vega.


As does mine Aurora!

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And my MaleShep demands James!!