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[PrinceLionheart]

shepisavanguardgetoverit wrote...

arne1234 wrote...

The way I see it colonies where getting attacked and Ashley was present at horizon, maybe she took credit

If she did, she's dead to me.  I did all the work there, not her. 

ElitePinecone wrote...

mineralica wrote...

JosephDucreux wrote...

 How the hell did Ashley get to 2nd Lt. (NOT Lt. Commander) without a degree?

Answer here.

She got to Lt. Commander, as ME3 site states. I think it was said even in leaked demo.

Yep. She's a Lieutenant Commander, equal to Shepard's rank. 

I don't see why shep can't get a promotion to staff commander.  He/She will still be commander shepard. 

Shepard was dead, then worked for Cerberus, and then nuked a Batararian Solar System. There's not a lot of room in all of that to fit in a promotion.

That and, to be frank, he doesn't need a promotion. He's a damned Spectre. 

[seirhart]

The way I see is that Admiral Anderson and Admiral Hackett stepped in and sped her thru the promotions

[PrinceLionheart]

CptData wrote...

Guess she simply got promoted to the officer's ranks because she earned it. And she took some extra steps because of her outstanding performance in the field (past two years we don't anything about).

Lets hope someone explains how Ash jumped five ranks.

I'd imagine part of it (along with Kaidan) is due to officers bailing like Joker, Chakwas, and Kenneth & Gabby bailing after the cover up. That along with the fact that Ash was doing a lot of side missions for Anderson (before and after ME2), you can make an argument that she was given the rank to give her more authority to do her different assignments.

[BatmanPWNS]

Cuz Ash and Kaidan had some secret talent that they never bothed to show us in ME1 at all.

[Arcadionn]

Shephard is a SPECTRE.... any promotion in any other military organisation is irrelevant in comparison. He is the CO of a frigate, hence should be a Captain - at least. But heh SPECTRE > Captain.

Ashley likely received a promotion for heroic actions during ME1 and 2.

[Grekofrog]

Remember Ashley is a Spectre aswell

[PrinceLionheart]

Grekofrog wrote...

Remember Ashley is a Spectre aswell

Not at the start of ME3 if I am correct. Her military promotions are completely independent of her Spectre Status.

[redbaron76]

As far as in the demo I can see Ashley is not a spectre as of yet.

[Sejborg]

Sleepicub09 wrote...

Mclouvins wrote...

OceanH wrote...


It's not about the US military but military protocol in general. Common requirement around the world is you need a Bachelor's degree or did something crazily incredible to earn a commision after being in the enlisted ranks. This is the same Hollywood mistake about not knowing how military ranks and commission work.

Or maybe a guy who is either an Admiral or the member of a galactic government was aware that she was part of a team of seven who saved the galaxy and thought she could get the job done and pulled some strings.

team of six Liara, Kaiden, Wrex, Garrus,Tali &Ashley

Come on. Give Shepard some credit. Jeez...

[redbaron76]

Or maybe she earned her rank the hard way, by following her orders and getting promoted for her good work.

[Han Shot First]

Ashley tells Shepard that the secret to getting promoted so quickly isn't who you know, but who you blow.

Why do you think they call Mikhailovitch Rear Admiral?

[Segameister]

OceanH wrote...


It's not about the US military but military protocol in general. Common requirement around the world is you need a Bachelor's degree or did something crazily incredible to earn a commision after being in the enlisted ranks. This is the same Hollywood mistake about not knowing how military ranks and commission work.

This doesn't have to be a 'Hollywood' mistake - this is the distant future for one thing, things can change in terms of rank and promotion, can't it?  I think it's arrogant to assume a better method wasn't adopted to reflect society at that time period.

[Made Nightwing]

In World War II, it was common for promotions to be sped up. Captains would be Lieutenant Colonels in a matter of months if there was no one else to lead those units. Cerberus News said that the Alliance was undergoing a big military expansion, including several new Marine divisions. Ash was likely an officer sometime after the end of ME2, and then just got fast tracked due to a lot of vacancies in the command chain. But she wouldn't have been fast tracked if they didn't think she could do the job.

[CptData]

jreezy wrote...

Skipping 4 ranks is pretty incredible. Maybe she saved a planet or something.

We don't know what she did in the past two years. Also it looks as if she got only one rank in that time (Operations Chief) while she skipped a lot of officer ranks between ME2 and ME3.

Theory: she got major support by Anderson. I bet he and Hackett did something to promote her several extra ranks. Also keep in mind it wasn't sure if Shepard would get reinstated in ME3 for a while. So I guess Ashley (or Kaidan) were intended to replace Shepard as CO of the Normandy. To make it happen, Ash had to get promoted into a rank that allows her to command a frigate class spaceship - the Normandy SR2. And the lowest commanding rank in any navy is - afaik - Lieutenant Commander.

[Aurora313]

She served on the took of the line frigate during ME1 and played an instrumental role in bringing down Saren. If that doesn't warrant promotion, what the hell does?

[Asari_Party]

She never left the Normandy after my Shepard's first visit to the Citadel (except Virmire). I hope she did something more after the events of ME1.

Modifié par Roxy12, 14 février 2012 - 11:31 .

[Demonhoopa]

OceanH wrote...

http://masseffect.bi...om/about/story/

There's only 2 ways to be a commissioned officer: Bachelor's degree or did something way, way, way incredible to get a commission from enlisted. It's only been 2 years between ME1 and ME2, and assuming the events in ME2 spanned a year, it's unrealistic she'd get to the rank of Ensign and even less to Lt. Commander.

Lap dance?

[knightnblu]

Frankly, the Alliance rank structure is a joke. There is no rhyme or reason to it because it is just window dressing. Even the uniforms carry no rank insignia that match any identifiable pattern. Some rank is blacked out, some isn't, and some is absent. Stripes on one pair of shoulder epaulets are addressed as Admiral where identically striped epaulets are addressed as Captain. Hell, we are not even sure if Shepard is a Commander or Lt. Commander or even what the difference is between the two in the Alliance command structure. All that needed to happen was for BioWare to sit down and spend fifteen to twenty minutes addressing the problem or run an internet search. They didn't do it.
 
Just ignore the rank and move on because it isn't important. If it were important then BioWare would have written a series bible to preserve continuity and to make sure that such things made sense. In short, what we see regarding the Alliance is what a civilian thinks the military ought to be in their mind and since rank, protocol, and tradition means damned little to a civilian, that is what you get. It isn't personal, it just is. So take it at face value and let it be. That's my advice at any rate.

[OceanH]

knightnblu wrote...

Frankly, the Alliance rank structure is a joke. There is no rhyme or reason to it because it is just window dressing. Even the uniforms carry no rank insignia that match any identifiable pattern. Some rank is blacked out, some isn't, and some is absent. Stripes on one pair of shoulder epaulets are addressed as Admiral where identically striped epaulets are addressed as Captain. Hell, we are not even sure if Shepard is a Commander or Lt. Commander or even what the difference is between the two in the Alliance command structure. All that needed to happen was for BioWare to sit down and spend fifteen to twenty minutes addressing the problem or run an internet search. They didn't do it.
 
Just ignore the rank and move on because it isn't important. If it were important then BioWare would have written a series bible to preserve continuity and to make sure that such things made sense. In short, what we see regarding the Alliance is what a civilian thinks the military ought to be in their mind and since rank, protocol, and tradition means damned little to a civilian, that is what you get. It isn't personal, it just is. So take it at face value and let it be. That's my advice at any rate.

I'll settle for your advice. It's incredible that they created a whole universe with details to alien cultures and everything else, but BioWare can't manage to settle military protocols correctly.

And I still can't believe people out who still argue that it doesn't matters. Try telling to an active duty or military veteran that there's no difference between "clip" and "mag".

[K_Tabris]

Uhh.. Jonah wrote...

Cause she's a bad ass.

The obvious, only answer

[ADLegend21]

NovinhaShepard wrote...

Uhh.. Jonah wrote...

Cause she's a bad ass.

The obvious, only answer

[Mhg122287]

I dunno, affirmative action maybe?

[Mhg122287]

hell I dont know, affirmative action?