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[jamesp81]

OceanH wrote...

http://masseffect.bi...om/about/story/

There's only 2 ways to be a commissioned officer: Bachelor's degree or did something way, way, way incredible to get a commission from enlisted. It's only been 2 years between ME1 and ME2, and assuming the events in ME2 spanned a year, it's unrealistic she'd get to the rank of Ensign and even less to Lt. Commander.

She did get named a Spectre.  The Alliance probably felt that giving her a commission would help increase her influence in other ways.

[spirosz]

She flaunts her new looks, which gave her early access to that position, ah ha ha ha.

[OceanH]

Carlthestrange wrote...

Hold on, are we asking about realism in ranking, when every species in the game speaks perfectly fluent English?

Thats just the other bit. It is, after all, a game. It doesn't have to be realisitic.

EddieL wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

knightnblu wrote...

Frankly, the Alliance rank structure is a joke. There is no rhyme or reason to it because it is just window dressing. Even the uniforms carry no rank insignia that match any identifiable pattern. Some rank is blacked out, some isn't, and some is absent. Stripes on one pair of shoulder epaulets are addressed as Admiral where identically striped epaulets are addressed as Captain. Hell, we are not even sure if Shepard is a Commander or Lt. Commander or even what the difference is between the two in the Alliance command structure. All that needed to happen was for BioWare to sit down and spend fifteen to twenty minutes addressing the problem or run an internet search. They didn't do it.
 
Just ignore the rank and move on because it isn't important. If it were important then BioWare would have written a series bible to preserve continuity and to make sure that such things made sense. In short, what we see regarding the Alliance is what a civilian thinks the military ought to be in their mind and since rank, protocol, and tradition means damned little to a civilian, that is what you get. It isn't personal, it just is. So take it at face value and let it be. That's my advice at any rate.

I agree. The rank structure is a little jacked up and nonsensical (as is the organization of the Alliance military into  a single service), but I don't see either of these things as being something that breaks the story. In fact it is pretty much standard fare in Sci Fi. Militaries in Sci Fi universes are pretty much never realistic. They are always organized or function in ways that seem bizarre in comparison to real world examples. Usually that is because the stories are being written by people who aren't veterans.

That being said I wonder why they didn't get William Dietz to work on that portion of the Mass Effect lore. He served in the US Navy as a Corpsman (medic) and in that capacity also served with the US Marines.

Dude, really............its a game set in outher space with Aliens and intergalactic space travel. Who cares how she got the rank. This isnt real life.

I bet it doesn't matter how consistent Mass Effect: Deception book is, right?

For those too dumb, just google mass effect deception.

Let's have Master Chief's armor turn to red and his face visible through a now transparent visor in Halo 4. Let's see how that will turn out.

Modifié par OceanH, 15 février 2012 - 10:10 .

[rwilli80]

You're trying to use real world logic in a virtual world setting, it doesn't work.

[Nathan_41]

rwilli80 wrote...

You're trying to use real world logic in a virtual world setting, it doesn't work.

In other words gravity, the laws of physics, the most basic understanding of medicine or biology or anything else that constitutes 'real word logic' is irrelevant. You fail at everything, forever.


The people who are brushing this mistake off are the people who have absolute no understanding of the way militaries in a civilised country function. It doesn't bother them only because they don't know enough about the subject to understand why its ridiculous. If Shepard's heart were to randomly explode inside his chest during the events of ME3, and in response he just picked himself off the ground, dusted himself off and continued with the mission minus the organ which keeps him alive, would it be only doctors protesting "That doesn't make any sense"? No, because Healthy Heart = Life is common knowledge among almost every human being on the planet. The fact that there are plenty of people on this forum who don't understand just how egregious a mistake Ash's catapult promotion is doesn't change the fact that there are plenty of others who do find it to be breaking suspension of disbelief.