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Duncaaaaaan

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I played through the demo twice.

As soon as I started the game, one thing grabbed my attention: the menus were extremely clunky. It felt like it was going at less than 24fps, more like 12 fps. It was almost difficult trying to navigate my way through the settings and buttons, it was so unresponsive. Ok, it's no big deal. On to the game. I'm greeted with "action mode", "RPG mode" and "story mode". What. The. Hell. So action mode is an absolute insult to the genre, the developers, and the game itself. Story mode would have sounded interesting, except it's basically super easy mode. The only viable choice is "RPG mode".

Also,  wow, ugly textures. What's worse is the framerate felt very inconsistent in some bits. There was a close up of one of the human council's face, the woman I think, and I was scared my xbox was going to crash, the framerate got so bad. The face textures are on the whole well detailed, but the clothing/armour detail looks extremely jarring and outdated.

Also, the writing is absolutely terrible. It is cliched as hell. Stuff like "you can't help me", "let's get the hell outta here!" and "thanks, I owe you one" makes me cringe. The forced drama BS with the kid in the vents, only to be killed by a Reaper, was just lame. No I'm not offended by kids getting killed. It's just dumb in this context all together. All the characters have changed drastically. Ashley unexplainably got a boob job, and has makeup. Same with Liara. Wrex just comes off as whiny, instead of a calm, brooding badass. When the krogan female snatched the shotgun out of his hands and shot down two cerberus soldiers (it was a claymore heavy shotgun, and she used it like it was an automatic shotgun, talk about inconsistency) Wrex's line "huh, women" was just so unbelievably cringe inducing. And now, Reapers, being machine gods that exterminate the galaxy every 50,000 years, are end level minibosses.

Also, it appears the dialogue options have been cut down dramatically, to cater to a more casual, younger audience. There's a clear cut good and evil choice, and that's it. No middle branch. No "investigate" on the left hand side. It's far too simplisitic. What's worse is that this game is 90% cutscene and 10% dialogue, if you get what I mean. Shepard speaks of his own accord far more than the player gets to control him. The michael bay-esque camera is also annoying as hell. I'd prefer it if I just played the game, rather than have wierd, goofy fish eye distortion effects every time there's an explosion.

Finally, the gameplay is horrible. The animations are extremely jerky and unnatural looking. The controls are very unresponsive. it feels like it's trying to be Gears of War, but it fails in every single aspect. It doesn't have the tight, fluid gameplay to match. It feels horribly floaty and rigid. The enemy AI is also really bad. They literally just stand there and take it. They don't try to be aggressive or flank you. They just stand/sit where they are, idly, like vegetables. The level design is also far too linear. Corridor, corridor, corridor. Some very convenient explosions causing walkways to appear miraculously before Shepard. Anderson screams "RELOAD. GET IN COVER. FOLLOW ME. THERE'S A LADDER THERE", like Shepard is autistic or something.

It screams of console port.

Those of you who say "but it's just a demo!", "it will get patched" etc are completely deluded. Mass Effect 2 was a great game, but the stripping down of RPG elements was a foreshadowing of this. Dragon Age 2 was the last straw. PC gamers have to put up with awful Origin.

I'm not telling you to get on the bioware hate bandwagon, what I am doing is making to light some very serious issues, with this game and Bioware itself.

Modifié par Duncaaaaaan, 14 février 2012 - 04:16 .


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aridor1570

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Duncaaaaaan wrote...

I played through the demo twice.

As soon as I started the game, one thing grabbed my attention: the menus were extremely clunky. It felt like it was going at less than 24fps, more like 12 fps. It was almost difficult trying to navigate my way through the settings and buttons, it was so unresponsive. Ok, it's no big deal. On to the game. Wow, ugly textures. What's worse is the framerate felt very inconsistent in some bits. There was a close up of one of the human council's face, the woman I think, and I was scared my xbox was going to crash, the framerate got so bad. The face textures are on the whole well detailed, but the clothing/armour detail looks extremely jarring and outdated.

Also, the writing is absolutely terrible. It is cliched as hell. Stuff like "you can't help me", "let's get the hell outta here!" and "thanks, I owe you one" makes me cringe. All the characters have changed drastically. Ashley unexplainably got a boob job, and has makeup. Same with Liara. Wrex just comes off as whiny, instead of a cakm, brooding badass. When the krogan female snatched the shotgun out of his hands and shot down two cerberus soldiers (it was a claymore heavy shotgun, and she used it like it was an automatic shotgun, talk about inconsistency) Wrex's line "huh, women" was just so unbelievably cringe inducing.

Also, it appears the dialogue options have been cut down dramatically, to cater to a more casual, younger audience. There's a clear cut good and evil choice, and that's it. No middle branch. No "investigate" on the left hand side. It's far too simplisitic. What's worse is that this game is 90% cutscene and 10% dialogue, if you get what I mean. Shepard speaks of his own accord far more than the player gets to control him.

Finally, the gameplay is horrible. The animations are extremely jerky and unnatural looking. The controls are very unresponsive. it feels like it's trying to be Gears of War, but it fails in every single aspect. It doesn't have the tight, fluid gameplay to match. It feels horribly floaty and rigid.

It screams of console port.

Those of you who say "but it's just a demo!", "it will get patched" etc are completely deluded. Mass Effect 2 was a great game, but the stripping down of RPG elements was a foreshadowing of this. Dragon Age 2 was the last straw.

I'm not telling you to get on the bioware hate bandwagon, what I am doing is making to light some very serious issues, with this game and Bioware itself.


A dev has confirmed that the dialogue options will be expanded in the full game.

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aksoileau

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Thanks for letting us know!

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RocketManSR2

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This topic is new and exciting.

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It screams of console port.


You do know that all three of these games have been developed for Xbox and then ported to other platforms, right? If you say that Mass Effect 2 was a great game, then I guess console ports aren't too bad...

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IndustrializedTaco

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I don't know what demo you played, My playthrough was fine, and smooth. I noticed that the dialog options were a little slim. You must not forget however it is a demo, and it is more or less showing off the gameplay. I disagree with the animations, and the combat system. I feel as though it is redefined. I like it, I believe it's more smooth, and fast-paced. I enjoy the evolving powers I think what Bioware did is pretty cool. While your views are mostly negative, I thought the demo was awesome. I can't wait for the full game.

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Not to get lumped in with this guy, but I too thought the navigation menus and controls were very unresponsive at times.

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AlbertoAquilani

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Wow, completely disagree on the enemy AI. They've flanked me a good few times.

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keep whining

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wheres a singularity when we need one?

these threads are getting out of controll

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How about a topic for everyone's opinion ? Do you all feel that special to decide to create your own hate thread ?

Modifié par Sylvianus, 14 février 2012 - 03:51 .


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This is the first time I have ever heard of a console player complaining of a console port. Which crappy console did you think they ported it from to play on your Xbox?

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I didnt notice any fps issues when I played it on my xbox, I agree that some of the clothing textures (specially on the earth part of the game) look pretty ugly, the dialog options have me abit worried aswell, it will not ruin the game for me however but I do prefer to have more control of my characters actions. I think it was Walters who said that its rare to have only 2 choices in dialog but then again dev's hardly admit anything that might affect the game negatively so dont know how much I believe his statement, the gameplay I dont really have any problem with, sure the roll button should be double tap A instead of single tap in my opinion but other than that it seemed fine

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But Duncaaaaaan...

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Cyberarmy

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JakeMacDon wrote...

This is the first time I have ever heard of a console player complaining of a console port. Which crappy console did you think they ported it from to play on your Xbox?



Gameboy?

Wait a se just called my childhood crappy ....

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I noticed when big games are coming out.just right before the big release I always start seeing long negative post about the game's storyline or mechanics.You're still going to buy the game so chill dude.Its going to be a great game hands down.I think ur just worried it's gonna suck,you really want the game and u want it now just like the rest of us.Its coming man chill.

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Dezdecaydance wrote...

I noticed when big games are coming out.just right before the big release I always start seeing long negative post about the game's storyline or mechanics.You're still going to buy the game so chill dude.Its going to be a great game hands down.I think ur just worried it's gonna suck,you really want the game and u want it now just like the rest of us.Its coming man chill.


No, I won't buy it. I don't want it.

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Why do people feel like they need to make the thread on the same topic when there are still plenty of active threads about this?

Also, the xbox demo enemies were tough, a few threads about people complaining that insanity is too hard, that the enemies are too tough. They were active and pain in the ass in the xbox demo. Maybe the pc version lost something in the process.

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The game is pretty much set piece after set piece with some mediocre gameplay sprinkled on it. I was already going to pass on it due to the whole Origin debacle but actually playing it made that decision so much easier.

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Nu-Nu wrote...

Why do people feel like they need to make the thread on the same topic when there are still plenty of active threads about this?

Also, the xbox demo enemies were tough, a few threads about people complaining that insanity is too hard, that the enemies are too tough. They were active and pain in the ass in the xbox demo. Maybe the pc version lost something in the process.


Well saved yourself some money then, now move on, no need to make a thread about it.

Half the stuff you noted will be fixed in the full game anyways, but you obviously ignore that because that would make you and your topic look silly, and we wouldn't want that to happen now right?

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Marionetten wrote...

The game is pretty much set piece after set piece with some mediocre gameplay sprinkled on it. I was already going to pass on it due to the whole Origin debacle but actually playing it made that decision so much easier.


Oh, so you've played the full game, I presume?

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Duncaaaaaan wrote...

Dezdecaydance wrote...

I noticed when big games are coming out.just right before the big release I always start seeing long negative post about the game's storyline or mechanics.You're still going to buy the game so chill dude.Its going to be a great game hands down.I think ur just worried it's gonna suck,you really want the game and u want it now just like the rest of us.Its coming man chill.


No, I won't buy it. I don't want it.


Then get off the damn board.

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Sylvianus wrote...

How about a topic for everyone's opinion ? Do you all feel that special to decide to create your own hate thread ?


i suggested that days ago i said there should be a stickey thread just for any form of complaints that way we dont have to see 50 threads of the same thing

i may just pm stan or chris about that idea

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Modifié par Woobels, 14 février 2012 - 04:06 .