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[voteDC]

I can't comment on the story or dialogue section of the demo as I hammered X to skip most of it I could.

However I do think that Shepard felt very sluggish to control. It often felt like I was forcing the character to do something. This would perhaps have been understandable in the second section but in the opening section it was frustrating.

The animation of Shepard also seemed to be worse. Male Shepard moved and ran like a hunchbacked gorilla in ME2 but this seems to have been made worse in the demo, female Shepard is terrible as she seems to share the male's animation.

Weapons and powers just sound very muted to me. The Mattock especially sounded powerful and heavy in ME2, like every shot was the crack of death, but sounded quiet and dull in the demo.

I know this is a demo and things will likely be improved in the full game but if I hadn't played the previous two this demo would not have convinced me to get the third.

However the multi-player characters are far more responsive than Shepard, which gives me hope that it will be improved in the full game. It was because of this feel of more control that I was surprised to find that I enjoyed the multi-player far more than the single player portion of the demo.

In fact the only thing that I find annoying in the multi-player is the button layout , just seems a little confusing to me. I'll be playing some more though to see if I can get used to it.

Modifié par voteDC, 14 février 2012 - 06:45 .

[Ziggeh]

RSX Titan wrote...
To be fair the DA2 demo was terrible and turned out to be an early indicator that the game was bad.

Right, but it's not like thats a consistent and reliable method of determination, especially if the complaints are largely of a technical nature.

[MarginalBeast]

Wait...lines like "Thanks, I owe you one." and "Let's get the hell outta here!" are cliche now?

LOL.

[saturos2]

this tread is so entertaining.

[Sia_Sinblade]

FSOAH wrote...

Sia_Sinblade wrote...

FSOAH wrote...

TheDaniellasaur wrote...
If you like it, great. Play it in March.
If you don't, then don't buy it.
It's simple! <_<

No, you **********, it's not that simple at all.

When you disagree with the way a series is going, you voice your complaint as loud as possible. That is the only way you are heard by anyone. If people sat down and accepted all the **** big companies shat at them, it'd be a sad world.

If you want to sit on your ass and pretend everything is fantastic, then be my guest. But don't attack other people's right to complain.

Don't mess with my right to enjoy something you don't. Because that's what haters usually do. Insulting, flaming and trolling people who enjoy something because they believe their motives and their enjoyment is of superior relevance.

Are you for real? You're actually saying that complaining towards BioWare is wrong? Holy ****, some people shouldn't be allowed on the internet. Your lack of knowledge and intelligence is breathtaking.

Reading comprehension fail. Nowhere did I say you have no right to complain to BioWare...or that it is bad. 

However, your ranting/insulting and trolling at the end of this response is exactly what puts you in the category of people I described in my original reply. 

Namely, you are just a whiny little ****** who has to insult other people for their choice of preferred entertainment, believing that somehow, your opinions are more valuable than theirs. 

Congratulations. You completely invalidated anything you wrote. 

[MAZ77]

Sylvianus wrote...

Walker White wrote...

Let me just say that is a sign of how well received this demo is that this thread is so small and moving so slowly.

Everyone remember what happened when the DAII demo came out? This thread is not that.

Yeah I remember with DA2 demo, that was crazy, ( I don't remember how many pages in a few hours, but there was a  lot  )

Just wanted to point out that this is not the only disappointed-thread here...

[jcolt]

FSOAH wrote...

TheDaniellasaur wrote...
If you like it, great. Play it in March.
If you don't, then don't buy it.
It's simple! <_<

No, you **********, it's not that simple at all.

When something is going in a direction you don't like, you complain about it, preferably loud so that people will get the message. What you shouldn't do is to sit on your ass and don't bother being ****ed in the ass (You).

If you want to pretend Mass Effect 3 hasn't gone in a casual-shooter-CoD direction, or you're fine with that direction, then sure, sit down and be a good muppet. But don't attack the people who complain, because they have every right to do so.

that wasn't an attack from the sounds of it your response was though, and really the only way to get attention from a big corp. isn't to whine on the net but not spend money on they're product.

[Stanley Woo]

Let's cut it out with the swearing and the personal attacks, please. We can (and should be able to) disagree with each other without resorting to childish behaviour. We are all ostensibly mature adults here.

[tobynator89]

*yawn*

[Tezlaa]

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

I played through the demo twice.

As soon as I started the game, one thing grabbed my attention: the menus were extremely clunky. It felt like it was going at less than 24fps, more like 12 fps. It was almost difficult trying to navigate my way through the settings and buttons, it was so unresponsive. Ok, it's no big deal. On to the game. I'm greeted with "action mode", "RPG mode" and "story mode". What. The. Hell. So action mode is an absolute insult to the genre, the developers, and the game itself. Story mode would have sounded interesting, except it's basically super easy mode. The only viable choice is "RPG mode".

Also,  wow, ugly textures. What's worse is the framerate felt very inconsistent in some bits. There was a close up of one of the human council's face, the woman I think, and I was scared my xbox was going to crash, the framerate got so bad. The face textures are on the whole well detailed, but the clothing/armour detail looks extremely jarring and outdated.

Also, the writing is absolutely terrible. It is cliched as hell. Stuff like "you can't help me", "let's get the hell outta here!" and "thanks, I owe you one" makes me cringe. The forced drama BS with the kid in the vents, only to be killed by a Reaper, was just lame. No I'm not offended by kids getting killed. It's just dumb in this context all together. All the characters have changed drastically. Ashley unexplainably got a boob job, and has makeup. Same with Liara. Wrex just comes off as whiny, instead of a calm, brooding badass. When the krogan female snatched the shotgun out of his hands and shot down two cerberus soldiers (it was a claymore heavy shotgun, and she used it like it was an automatic shotgun, talk about inconsistency) Wrex's line "huh, women" was just so unbelievably cringe inducing. And now, Reapers, being machine gods that exterminate the galaxy every 50,000 years, are end level minibosses.

Also, it appears the dialogue options have been cut down dramatically, to cater to a more casual, younger audience. There's a clear cut good and evil choice, and that's it. No middle branch. No "investigate" on the left hand side. It's far too simplisitic. What's worse is that this game is 90% cutscene and 10% dialogue, if you get what I mean. Shepard speaks of his own accord far more than the player gets to control him. The michael bay-esque camera is also annoying as hell. I'd prefer it if I just played the game, rather than have wierd, goofy fish eye distortion effects every time there's an explosion.

Finally, the gameplay is horrible. The animations are extremely jerky and unnatural looking. The controls are very unresponsive. it feels like it's trying to be Gears of War, but it fails in every single aspect. It doesn't have the tight, fluid gameplay to match. It feels horribly floaty and rigid. The enemy AI is also really bad. They literally just stand there and take it. They don't try to be aggressive or flank you. They just stand/sit where they are, idly, like vegetables. The level design is also far too linear. Corridor, corridor, corridor. Some very convenient explosions causing walkways to appear miraculously before Shepard. Anderson screams "RELOAD. GET IN COVER. FOLLOW ME. THERE'S A LADDER THERE", like Shepard is autistic or something.

It screams of console port.

Those of you who say "but it's just a demo!", "it will get patched" etc are completely deluded. Mass Effect 2 was a great game, but the stripping down of RPG elements was a foreshadowing of this. Dragon Age 2 was the last straw. PC gamers have to put up with awful Origin.

I'm not telling you to get on the bioware hate bandwagon, what I am doing is making to light some very serious issues, with this game and Bioware itself.

No

[Sylvianus]

MAZ77 wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Walker White wrote...

Let me just say that is a sign of how well received this demo is that this thread is so small and moving so slowly.

Everyone remember what happened when the DAII demo came out? This thread is not that.

Yeah I remember with DA2 demo, that was crazy, ( I don't remember how many pages in a few hours, but there was a  lot  )

Just wanted to point out that this is not the only disappointed-thread here...

Yeah because, one dude, + another dude + another dude + another dude who say : I am disapppointed, = many negative threads.

If you look at this forum, everything positive that was said was in one thread and those who didn't like the demo felt special as well, they felt the need to create their own topic, that's why you've got the impression there are a lot of people disappointed. Actually, the bsn is more positive than I thought.

And sorry, but compared to what we were talking about, that's absolutely nothing. Do you see one thread with more than 100 pages with a lot of hate ?

Modifié par Sylvianus, 14 février 2012 - 07:06 .

[JasonDaPsycho]

pre-order can...

Oh wait...

If you don't like it, cancel your pre-order quota so someone who likes it can get it. That's assuming that you've pre-ordered the CE that is. Just sayin...

Modifié par JasonDaPsycho, 14 février 2012 - 07:14 .

[Naughty Bear]

I have not been kept up to date on Mass Effect 3 as I have been too busy plundering Skyrim and being more involved in the Skyrim forums.

Is this business about conversations being more 'simple' true? Normally demos showcase gameplay so I am not sure if the OP is simply over-reacting and worrying too much.

Modifié par Naughty Bear, 14 février 2012 - 07:16 .

[Aleitheo]

Habs25 wrote...

Oh noes! The demo was crap!!! I'M NOT BUYING THE GAME!!! NERD RAGE! - OP

So you don't like where a series is going? You think you know better than the people who developed the story? Think you can make a better game?

News flash - it's the developers' story, they have every right to take it in the direction they want and to follow their vision for the game. If you don't like it, don't buy it - it is that simple. And nit-picking on a demo? It's a demo... it's not the full game, you're not getting the full experience.
Some features look to be pandering to a wider audience? You sound like a hipster... this is a great series, why shouldn't it open its arms to new players? This game looks like its only expanding the ways you experience it, which is not a bad thing. So stop crying, at the end of the day its only a game. Feel lucky that your problem in life is that a game may not be how you expect, there are greater things to worry about - now STFU and either play the full game and make up your mind, or don't. No one cares about your whining.

Part of what makes Mass Effect so great is that it was different from the usual stuff and it was made with people like us in mind. By having the game focus less on that and more on attracting a wider audience (with guest celebrity stars such as Barely Known Actor and Gaming TV Show Host) is not a good thing for the sake of it. Mass Effect appears to be turning more into a Gears of War shooter and less of the RPG we liked to begin with. Sure they are making the RPG parts more indepth than ME2 but that was only after fans complained about Bioware selling out.

You are on a forum where people discuss something they really like. These people are called fans, if you don't understand the concept, why are you here?

[Matt VT Schlo]

I didnt have some of the 'tech' types issues the OP had, but he has some valid points. First for me is the writing. Not a Mac Walters fan. I honestly don't think he is very talented. The little kid moment was classic sign of amateurish writing

I am not digging the lack of dialogue options, no Codex - which I've been told will be in game - we'll see

I was left wanting in demo.....this feels like a continuation of ME2: more action, easy modes, more action - I didnt see any sign of improved RPG myself...Sure the Squad option looked different, but I wasnt that impressed

[Naughty Bear]

Matt VT Schlo wrote...

I didnt have some of the 'tech' types issues the OP had, but he has some valid points. First for me is the writing. Not a Mac Walters fan. I honestly don't think he is very talented. The little kid moment was classic sign of amateurish writing

I am not digging the lack of dialogue options, no Codex - which I've been told will be in game - we'll see

I was left wanting in demo.....this feels like a continuation of ME2: more action, easy modes, more action - I didnt see any sign of improved RPG myself...Sure the Squad option looked different, but I wasnt that impressed

Excuse me?

[Fasty1]

Ok Duncann there are more important things in life than video games/bioware. Say that Me3 suck ok so it fails... and Bioware keeps making games that suckk... and bioware fails and go bankrupt/cease existence/BYE BYE. Case closed no more complaining, no more wasting your life posting long posts over a forum, arguing with strangers and wasting precious time of your life.

[Matt VT Schlo]

Naughty Bear wrote...

No Codex in demo. Some on these boards are saying its in full game. We'll see. All I meant

[Ziggeh]

Duncaaaaaan wrote...
1. Opinions. What makes them hollow? Answer that question. You can come up with some amazing answer that blows us all away, but it will ultimately be an opiniated answer. It's like **** germany or Stalin's russia in here, we aren't allowed to criticise things.

2. Yes I know what cliche means.

That's one right there.

[DaJe]

voteDC wrote...

Weapons and powers just sound very muted to me. The Mattock especially sounded powerful and heavy in ME2, like every shot was the crack of death, but sounded quiet and dull in the demo.

I have only watched a walkthrough video on youtube and even when not on maximum quality I can say that that is not true at all. Maybe something is wrong with your system but the powers and weapon sounds have never been this direct, punchy and in your face as here. Everything has this kick that really makes it punch through the mix.

[Armass81]

As much as some fans complain about the rpg stuff change I can say my opinion: Mass Effects 1's rpg elements were poor...

Inventory system was a mess, you had to sell all your stuff after every main mission so you could get more, it got cluttered with all kinds of armors and little things I never even used. The weapons you got were just palet swapped more powerful versions of the same weapon, they didnt feel at all different, like in ME2 for example where you have rapid firing pistol and a slower more powerful one. Only the weapon adds like rail extensions, tungsten rounds and such added some minor difference. I think armors were ok, they should have actually kept those for the sequels.

The money gaining system had no reason, you went to a hub planet where you did one little side quest and what did you get? Measly, laughable 500 credits! You could make hundred times that much by doing one N7 mission and selling all the stuff you find from lockers and crates there, it was ridiculous.

And the combat was clunky as hell, there are ways to do shooter combat either fully or half assed. ME1 was latter, it didnt know what it wanted to be. And if you think some kind of turn based combat like in kotor would have been good here, youre deluding yourselves. After playing ME2 going back to play ME1's combat is, truthfully, a painful experience, at least to me.

And the rpg elements? You had points to your skills, in the end you had so many they made your characters supermen and women. In the newer games, all you have is less points now, its basically the same still.

Yet somehow you just keep telling how wonderful all this was compared to what we have now and you want to keep it?

Modifié par Armass81, 14 février 2012 - 08:04 .

[Duncaaaaaan]

Ziggeh wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...
1. Opinions. What makes them hollow? Answer that question. You can come up with some amazing answer that blows us all away, but it will ultimately be an opiniated answer. It's like **** germany or Stalin's russia in here, we aren't allowed to criticise things.

2. Yes I know what cliche means.

That's one right there.

An opinion? yes. And?

[Naughty Bear]

Can anyone explain this codex problem? It isn't in the demo?

[Hunter of Legends]

Hunter of Legends wrote...


1. You are allow to voice opinions. Depending on how well supported/thought out they are will decide wether you get optimal discussion. As I've pointed out your opinions are laughable at best and the resulting response is exactly what should be happening.

2. You aren't using it right. The ONLY cliche so far is "We fight or we die". Your complaint about characters is both flat out wrong and reaks of fanwank. Wrex has ALWAYS been hotheaded when it comes to his species and the genophage.

Now lets try this again.

Modifié par Hunter of Legends, 15 février 2012 - 12:41 .

[Arcadian Legend]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Wrex was whiny? The writing was bad?

... Huh what?

Clearly we were playing a different game from the OP. No issues with the framerate, menu or AI either.