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[aridor1570]

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

Know what? don't read the first reply, read this.

BlueDemonX wrote...

Srefanius wrote...

https://twitter.com/...146460334596096
@bluedemonx
The dialogue options you play through in the demo will be expanded in
the game.

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@manveerheir
(https://twitter.com/...143698699984896)

Manveer Heir
@BlueDemonX
You choose your lines like in every other Mass Effect game. The game is
about choices

So, there you have it, guys! Stop whining and wait
for the damn game. THEN you can whine!

In fact, all he said was "The dialogue options you play through in the demo will be expanded in the game."

Have you any idea how AMBIGUOUS this statement is?

If that's not "There will be more dialogue options in the main game!" in your head, then you've already made up your mind.

[JaHawk]

bluewolv1970 wrote...

JaHawk wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

No, I won't buy it. I don't want it.

Well, and here's a solution that may be too complex for your simple mind, go away from the Mass Effect boards and stop trolling? Okay? Good.

I always thought a good indicator of a simple mind was attacking someone personally?  Do YOU??

Not really, I would say someone with a simple mind is someone who has come onto the Mass Effect 3 board and started a topic about how much he dislikes the demo, only to go on to state that he doesn't want the game anyway. I have no problem with people voicing concerns, but when he can't find a single positive thing in the demo then I think he may well be trolling to try and draw a reaction.

[N7Raider]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

Eire Icon wrote...

They also cut dialogue to avoid spoilers. Its a demo remember they don't want to spoil the whole story

Oh please. There's that phrase again, "It's a demo".

Whatever. You're all so far gone.

This is exactly what was said when the DA2 demo was released. Look what happened.

Yes, it was said by the fans, but when a dev comes out and states that alot of the dialogue was cut from the demo?(read first reply please.)

Yes I've read your post. Saying that a lot of the dialogue was cut out is extremely subjective. How much is "a lot"? Devs lie all the time. For Kingdoms of Amalur, devs said a !00% completion speed run took 200 hours. That's sprinting everywhere, and skipping all dialogue and cutscenes. Now that the game is out, the reality has dawned: there's about 50 hours of content all together.

Please, some people still pretend ME1 and 2 are longer than 30 and 20 hours.

ugh ME2 is that length a typical playthrough last 25-30 hours for me and i don't do side missions.

[ArkkAngel007]

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

Eire Icon wrote...

They also cut dialogue to avoid spoilers. Its a demo remember they don't want to spoil the whole story

Oh please. There's that phrase again, "It's a demo".

Whatever. You're all so far gone.

This is exactly what was said when the DA2 demo was released. Look what happened.

Yes, it was said by the fans, but when a dev comes out and states that alot of the dialogue was cut from the demo?(read first reply please.)

Yes I've read your post. Saying that a lot of the dialogue was cut out is extremely subjective. How much is "a lot"? Devs lie all the time. For Kingdoms of Amalur, devs said a !00% completion speed run took 200 hours. That's sprinting everywhere, and skipping all dialogue and cutscenes. Now that the game is out, the reality has dawned: there's about 50 hours of content all together.

On the Earth level, you can see a lot of the (roughly) cut dialogue when you have subtitles enabled, and for someone who has supposedly read the script, you must not remember much if you feel like this was the true indication of the game.  Sur'Kesh was even more heavily cut, just in that little tiny section of the level.

[ArkkAngel007]

aridor1570 wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

Know what? don't read the first reply, read this.

BlueDemonX wrote...

Srefanius wrote...

https://twitter.com/...146460334596096
@bluedemonx
The dialogue options you play through in the demo will be expanded in
the game.

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@manveerheir
(https://twitter.com/...143698699984896)

Manveer Heir
@BlueDemonX
You choose your lines like in every other Mass Effect game. The game is
about choices

So, there you have it, guys! Stop whining and wait
for the damn game. THEN you can whine!

In fact, all he said was "The dialogue options you play through in the demo will be expanded in the game."

Have you any idea how AMBIGUOUS this statement is?

If that's not "There will be more dialogue options in the main game!" in your head, then you've already made up your mind.

I think that's the real issue.  It didn't matter whether he played the demo or not.  From all the mentions of Amalur, DAII, the script, etc., he already had his mind made up on the matter.  I'm surprised there wasn't a jab at multiplayer in all of it.

[Nu-Nu]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

MortalEngines wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

MortalEngines wrote...

I'm confused...how is he playing the PC demo? I swear it's not out yet..I've been looking on origins and the site pretty much all day.

He isn't, he mentioned he felt like his Xbox would crash.

But then he said he felt it was a crappy console port and how he felt like he was being shafted as a PC player having to stick to Origins. How would he know it's a crappy port without playing the PC demo .

He just mentioned Origin just to stick another fault to BioWare, whether he understands the issues with Origin or not.

Definition of "Console port" from wikipedia -

"Console Port" is a term specifically used to describe a game that was originally made for a console (such as Wii or Xbox 360) before an identical version is created which can be played on a personal computer.

You can't blame people if they thought he played the pc demo...

[Dragoonlordz]

aridor1570 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

The combat was fine over all but the cover gameplay mechanic was not very good. Shepard when I played demo couldn't decide between sticking his arse out for them to shoot or his head. Apart from that I was okay with combat aspect. 

I would have preferred a trial to kick off the game for purpose of character development and getting to express my persona via dialogue and responses to it from the people who had to stand in front of plus a build up to the Reaper attack  of more than couple minutes, lets face it Shepard was there for 6 months yet they (devs) could not hold off the attack happening for 5 more minutes? Rather than instant gratification for those who do not have adequate attention spans to make a few dialogue more choices before kicking off the game in earnest.

I would have preferred they kept the trial for the RPG mode and removed for trigger twitching type in Action mode. This just disappointed me if I am honest as a wasted opportunity as explained in the other thread using this analogy. 

This leads to my main (concern) for the game which was the auto responses which were very much out of character for what would be my Shepard even though could not import if go by what has been said on here via devs then makes no difference whether import or start new they all start same way overall. Anderson bugged me slightly and the Admirals due to no matter which dialogue option picked previous two times they said exact same thing overall only seconds after having picked a different option. 

I base this opinion on the demo which purpose was to be an example of what to expect in full game and in this regard the non combat elements did not come across in radiant light by any stretch. Demo being see for yourself and experience vs what devs "claim" will be which like DA2 is not always what they claim so this has me slightly worried going by what have actually played.

By the way just to point out there are most of the time two types of people on BSN, those who express an opinion on the product which is sometimes criticism and the other group of people who leave comments that do not even bother expressing opinions about the product and just whine and moan about the other people/fans. Out of the two the latter one is by far the worst section of the forums because unlike the first group who are at least talking about the product, the second group are just attacking other people that has nothing to do with the game or intent to further any discussions.

In what point did the DA2 devs lie?

You'll have to go back to the DA2 section and search for all my posts and read them if wish to talk about pros/cons and PR misleading of DA2 instead of the topic of ME3. Because to be honest I can't be bothered to rehash it all over again in the ME3 section when already did so in the DA2 section months ago.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 14 février 2012 - 04:37 .

[Elvis_Mazur]

Complaints again? You humans are really all the same.

[Arkitekt]

I enjoyed the part where he complains that his console game plays like a console game. Man that must be frustrating...

About the rest of your complaints, op, if I were a little bit more paranoid, I'd think you belong to a rival company trying to fud fans out of it, so hard you are trying... But more seriously, if thats how you feel the game, then what is there to worry? You just saved yourself 60+ bucks.

Finally, I think that Smudboy's school of bickering is really channelling lately on bsn...

[Dragoonlordz]

PetrySilva wrote...

Complaints again? You humans are really all the same.

Read the last paragraph of what I had written above your post in the quote.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 14 février 2012 - 04:40 .

[aridor1570]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

The combat was fine over all but the cover gameplay mechanic was not very good. Shepard when I played demo couldn't decide between sticking his arse out for them to shoot or his head. Apart from that I was okay with combat aspect. 

I would have preferred a trial to kick off the game for purpose of character development and getting to express my persona via dialogue and responses to it from the people who had to stand in front of plus a build up to the Reaper attack  of more than couple minutes, lets face it Shepard was there for 6 months yet they (devs) could not hold off the attack happening for 5 more minutes? Rather than instant gratification for those who do not have adequate attention spans to make a few dialogue more choices before kicking off the game in earnest.

I would have preferred they kept the trial for the RPG mode and removed for trigger twitching type in Action mode. This just disappointed me if I am honest as a wasted opportunity as explained in the other thread using this analogy. 

This leads to my main (concern) for the game which was the auto responses which were very much out of character for what would be my Shepard even though could not import if go by what has been said on here via devs then makes no difference whether import or start new they all start same way overall. Anderson bugged me slightly and the Admirals due to no matter which dialogue option picked previous two times they said exact same thing overall only seconds after having picked a different option. 

I base this opinion on the demo which purpose was to be an example of what to expect in full game and in this regard the non combat elements did not come across in radiant light by any stretch. Demo being see for yourself and experience vs what devs "claim" will be which like DA2 is not always what they claim so this has me slightly worried going by what have actually played.

By the way just to point out there are most of the time two types of people on BSN, those who express an opinion on the product which is sometimes criticism and the other group of people who leave comments that do not even bother expressing opinions about the product and just whine and moan about the other people/fans. Out of the two the latter one is by far the worst section of the forums because unlike the first group who are at least talking about the product, the second group are just attacking other people that has nothing to do with the game or intent to further any discussions.

In what point did the DA2 devs lie?

You'll have to go back to the DA2 section and search for all my posts and read them if wish to talk about pros/cons and PR misleading of DA2 instead of the topic of ME3. Because to be honest I can't be bothered to rehash it all over again in the ME3 section when already did so in the DA2 section months ago.

I've followed the game's development, they never lied about anything.

[v_Zalem]

Complaints again? You humans are really all the same.

Expressing opinions and complaining are two different things. Learn the difference please. I haven't been around BSN for a huge amount of time, but I fail to understand the whole mentality of "if anything potentially negative is said about a Bioware game then this person is a ****/troll/idiot/deluded individual. Duncaaaaaaan merely just said his piece about the game...that's it. Though I will agree that there shouldn't be a plethora of threads made about positive/negative opinions of the ME3 demo...keep it all under one banner.

Modifié par v_Zalem, 14 février 2012 - 04:42 .

[JoePilot]

It's to be expected, of course, but the denial of so-called fans on these boards is appalling.

Bioware has gone and taken a colossal dump on this franchise, and you're all trying to convince yourselves it's the best thing ever. It's like the space emperor's new clothes. Ask yourselves this: are you fans of Bioware, or Mass Effect?

If it's the former, fine, stick your head in the sand, call me a hater and go about your business. But if it's the latter, then take a deep breath, look at this demo for what it is, and consider whether or not that's really what any rational person would expect for the conclusion of this epic rpg trilogy.

The writing has been on the wall for months. Open your eyes.

[Blarty]

I've played the demo three times now, I've not experienced things that some people are saying they've seen, such as screen-tearing, etc but I wasn't looking for it, for all complaints about a) writing and dialogue options - the first section is the tutorial (go replay tutorial level section of ME2 and compare), the second level isn't a full level and as such any full-game dialogue that spans from the begining of the demo to the end yet has portions cut out of the middle would make no sense; so Bioware simplified the interactions IN THE DEMO to those that would have an effect in the demo.

Secondly, as Bioware have said time and time again, ME3 is to be as inclusive to newcomers as it is to players with multiple shepards all the way through from Eden Prime - the Demo and tutorial level has to have more to do with establishing this than giving YOU lots of dialogue options.

AI - far far better than ME2 - on insanity they're avoiding biotics and grenades, they rarely stand still and will advance and flank ruthlessly - so I cannot see what your complaint is here.

Action/RPG/Story modes - no one is forcing you to play in one particular style, so I fail to see how giving options to other players whilst not restricting your play style can be a bad thing.

Kinect integration was ok - I think the power/weapon wheel pause will be invaluable in Combat on insanity, but bar a little bit of lag it was fine - but again it is not forced on you, just in case you want to complain about something else.

My only concerns were a little bit of tuning needs to be done on the combat rolling and moving between cover and the audio seemed a little bit out of sync (but this was true in the PS3 ME2 demo and was fine in the shipped game).

I get the feeling that everyone wants to use DA2 as a stick to relentlessly beat every Bioware game with from now on....

Modifié par Blarty, 14 février 2012 - 04:42 .

[Sia_Sinblade]

Duncaaaaaan wrote...
<snip>

Also, the writing is absolutely terrible. It is cliched as hell. Stuff like "you can't help me", "let's get the hell outta here!" and "thanks, I owe you one" makes me cringe. The forced drama BS with the kid in the vents, only to be killed by a Reaper, was just lame. No I'm not offended by kids getting killed. It's just dumb in this context all together. All the characters have changed drastically. Ashley unexplainably got a boob job, and has makeup. Same with Liara. Wrex just comes off as whiny, instead of a calm, brooding badass. When the krogan female snatched the shotgun out of his hands and shot down two cerberus soldiers (it was a claymore heavy shotgun, and she used it like it was an automatic shotgun, talk about inconsistency) Wrex's line "huh, women" was just so unbelievably cringe inducing. And now, Reapers, being machine gods that exterminate the galaxy every 50,000 years, are end level minibosses.

<snip>

I am getting sick and tired of wannabe-eloquents spouting that lines are cliche. Really> "You can't help me." is a cliche? It's not something that would be said if someone is terrified down to their very core and seeing the most terrible things they have ever seen in their life right behind the guy who wants to save them!

"Let's get outta here!" Oh no. Someone said they should get out of here. Oh no. How on earth am I going to live with such a terrible misuse of words. Never in the history of mankind have these words been uttered in situations where people thought that they should get the hell outta there!

And boy...I am sure no one ever thanked someone else when they just fraggin saved their lives. I mean, I am sure there is some awesome, super-eloquent way of putting it that you know and that would make it sound like the words come straight out of Goethe's mouth!

And yeah...let's NOT create any sort of urgency for the main character? Of course it is completely unbelievable that Shepard would be heartbroken by the fact that he can't save everyone and that he has to live with the fact that no matter how much he does, he will not be able to save the lives of countless of innocent people...including children!

It couldn't be that the scene was there to illustrate the emotions Shepard is feeling, right? It couldn't be that the scene was used to have an incredible impact with the character, who we all relate to. And if you can't relate to Shepard's shock and horror at seeing a little kid be killed, then I assume you have the emotional range of a teaspoon.

Sorry for the rant. I'm just very amused/annoyed by people who keep shouting that lines like "Good luck" are capital crimes in any sort of story.

[aridor1570]

JoePilot wrote...

It's to be expected, of course, but the denial of so-called fans on these boards is appalling.

Bioware has gone and taken a colossal dump on this franchise, and you're all trying to convince yourselves it's the best thing ever. It's like the space emperor's new clothes. Ask yourselves this: are you fans of Bioware, or Mass Effect?

If it's the former, fine, stick your head in the sand, call me a hater and go about your business. But if it's the latter, then take a deep breath, look at this demo for what it is, and consider whether or not that's really what any rational person would expect for the conclusion of this epic rpg trilogy.

The writing has been on the wall for months. Open your eyes.

I've opened my eyes, seen the demos and plan on playing the upcoming one, from everything I've seen, it's a Mass Effect game.

[Armass81]

JoePilot wrote...

It's to be expected, of course, but the denial of so-called fans on these boards is appalling.

Bioware has gone and taken a colossal dump on this franchise, and you're all trying to convince yourselves it's the best thing ever. It's like the space emperor's new clothes. Ask yourselves this: are you fans of Bioware, or Mass Effect?

If it's the former, fine, stick your head in the sand, call me a hater and go about your business. But if it's the latter, then take a deep breath, look at this demo for what it is, and consider whether or not that's really what any rational person would expect for the conclusion of this epic rpg trilogy.

The writing has been on the wall for months. Open your eyes.

Have you seen the leaked script, have you read it? If not, please shut up, cause you dont know a damn thing about this games plot. You think some 40 min demo justifies a whole game that has about 40 000 lines of dialogue?

Modifié par Armass81, 14 février 2012 - 04:45 .

[Janus Prospero]

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

Eire Icon wrote...

They also cut dialogue to avoid spoilers. Its a demo remember they don't want to spoil the whole story

Oh please. There's that phrase again, "It's a demo".

Whatever. You're all so far gone.

This is exactly what was said when the DA2 demo was released. Look what happened.

Except that a lot of us have seen videos of the leaked beta which had the expanded Sur'kesh level and there was a lot of dialogue.

Modifié par Janus Prospero, 14 février 2012 - 04:45 .

[Graunt]

So how was the PC demo played when it's not even released yet, and late by almost two hours now?

[Yuoaman]

The leaked beta had quite a significant amount of dialogue not in the demo.

[aridor1570]

Janus Prospero wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

Eire Icon wrote...

They also cut dialogue to avoid spoilers. Its a demo remember they don't want to spoil the whole story

Oh please. There's that phrase again, "It's a demo".

Whatever. You're all so far gone.

This is exactly what was said when the DA2 demo was released. Look what happened.

Except that a lot of us have seen videos of the leaked beta which had the expanded Sur'kesh level and there was a lot of dialogue.

Yup, but even then people wish to complaint and say that it's still not enough because Shepard says just a few , rational words on his own.

[xTermoil]

You can pick what ever you want and change it once you start game me personaly will be playing it on story and just ramping up the diff.

[Yuoaman]

Graunt wrote...

So how was the PC demo played when it's not even released yet, and late by almost two hours now?

This topic is about the Xbox version - and the PC demo's release isn't set to occur for over three hours.

[N7Raider]

JoePilot wrote...

It's to be expected, of course, but the denial of so-called fans on these boards is appalling.

Bioware has gone and taken a colossal dump on this franchise, and you're all trying to convince yourselves it's the best thing ever. It's like the space emperor's new clothes. Ask yourselves this: are you fans of Bioware, or Mass Effect?

If it's the former, fine, stick your head in the sand, call me a hater and go about your business. But if it's the latter, then take a deep breath, look at this demo for what it is, and consider whether or not that's really what any rational person would expect for the conclusion of this epic rpg trilogy.

The writing has been on the wall for months. Open your eyes.

congratualtions you win the prize for second most ridiculous thing I've read all day.  

[AdmiralCheez]

Wrex was whiny? The writing was bad?

... Huh what?