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[Rudy Lis]

United_Strafes wrote...

I'll be proudly installing the 1st nude Ashley mod that comes out, thank you.

"Use imagination". Something from Talespin, IIRC.

[Almostfaceman]

iakus wrote...

Then what's the point of the makeover at all, if the look is meaningless?  

Giving a character a look is supposed to be a visual representation of who the character is and what they represent.  You and I know who Ash is, but ME3 is supposed to be "a great place to start"  What are newcomers supposed to think when they see her?  (get yer mind outta the gutter!)

Unique looks are why Aveline in DA2 wore heavy guardsman's armor.  that's why Jack is covered in tattoos.  That's why Shepard wears N7 armor.  It's why Grunt has blue eyes instead of red.

 What does Ashley's outfit say besides "I have two X chromosomes?"

Do you, like, have any experience with girls? The outfit shows her feminine side. Girls LIKE to show their feminine side. We get to see another facet of Ash, with this iconic look. 

Okay, for me, it's like this. Say, Ash is someone I worked with when I was sandblasting for a living. Every time I'd see her, it would be in her work clothes, stuff worn for rough, dirty, hard work. Kinda like the work outfit she put together on board the SR1. I'd get to know some about what she's like from working with her, but her work clothes would only tell me a part of what she's like. We get to be friends, then one day, I see her at the baseball game and she's wearing something she actually likes. Now, this doesn't change what I already know, it ADDS to what I know. Maybe I find out she likes dresses, or bell bottom blue jeans, short shorts, goth - whatever. This adds, not subtracts.

The iconic look fulfills this requirement, and it also gives Ash a distinctive look for the game, much as Han Solo's outfit in Star Wars. 

Personally, I think because you don't like the outfit, you're not seeing my point. You want to emphasis her military side. I want to see other sides of Ash. Being sexy and a little soft IS an aspect of every woman I've met, and it's nice to see that side of Ash.

[Thrak Balzak]

Nashiktal wrote...

 

Thrak Balzak wrote...

So Ashley can't be a strong soldier in combat and sexy and confident outside of combat? Whatever. People complain about weird stuff.

Some people just can't read. Or they choose to ignore points when convenient. 

Same difference.

I wasn't ignoring posts.  I just didn't feel like reading through 80 or so posts or this stuff.  Thinking that Ashley should wear some Alliance thing outside of combat is fair enough.  To be perfectly honest, I've never really paid attention to what the characters wear, I just enjoy these games.  Cool story, fun game play, that's all I really care about with regards to Mass Effect.  Though I'll admit that I also enjoy a little sexiness as much as the next guy, so I suppose I don't mind them sexing up Ashley.  I can be shallow sometimes, no doubt.

But mostly, I just don't get bothered by these little things as long as the game is still as fun as the previous 2 have been.  Sometimes I feel like 80% of the people posting here hate everything BioWare does, and it's kind of annoying.

[Iakus]

Almostfaceman wrote...

Do you, like, have any experience with girls? The outfit shows her feminine side. Girls LIKE to show their feminine side. We get to see another facet of Ash, with this iconic look. 

Okay, for me, it's like this. Say, Ash is someone I worked with when I was sandblasting for a living. Every time I'd see her, it would be in her work clothes, stuff worn for rough, dirty, hard work. Kinda like the work outfit she put together on board the SR1. I'd get to know some about what she's like from working with her, but her work clothes would only tell me a part of what she's like. We get to be friends, then one day, I see her at the baseball game and she's wearing something she actually likes. Now, this doesn't change what I already know, it ADDS to what I know. Maybe I find out she likes dresses, or bell bottom blue jeans, short shorts, goth - whatever. This adds, not subtracts.

The iconic look fulfills this requirement, and it also gives Ash a distinctive look for the game, much as Han Solo's outfit in Star Wars. 

Personally, I think because you don't like the outfit, you're not seeing my point. You want to emphasis her military side. I want to see other sides of Ash. Being sexy and a little soft IS an aspect of every woman I've met, and it's nice to see that side of Ash.

You do realize that Ash's outfit here is a military uniform, right?  These are her work clothes, if not her fighting clothes.  "The need to look pretty" really isn't a high priority for military uniforms.

If Ash had genuine civilian clothes, I'd be fine with it.  A hoodie.  A dress, a T-shirt.  Fine.  That's her preference.  But what she's wearing is an Alliance uniform. A unique one designed with one express purpose:  to give Ashley Williams sex appeal.  Ash's personality had absolutely nothing to do with it at all.

Modifié par iakus, 15 février 2012 - 05:16 .

[Iakus]

V-rex wrote...

P.S by the way other posters, I don't think Ashley is made less tough by being sexy. I imagine she's still badass and capable and sassy as she always was. My issue and I think a lot of other people's issues is that what this design suggests is that 'sexy' is now considered by Bioware to be 'more important' then showcasing Ashley as a soldier.

This human understands

Modifié par iakus, 15 février 2012 - 03:58 .

[shepard1038]

iakus wrote...

V-rex wrote...

P.S by the way other posters, I don't think Ashley is made less tough by being sexy. I imagine she's still badass and capable and sassy as she always was. My issue and I think a lot of other people's issues is that what this design suggests is that 'sexy' is now considered by Bioware to be 'more important' then showcasing Ashley as a soldier.

This human understands

Or maybe people want to whine.

[Adanu]

iakus wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

Do you, like, have any experience with girls? The outfit shows her feminine side. Girls LIKE to show their feminine side. We get to see another facet of Ash, with this iconic look. 

Okay, for me, it's like this. Say, Ash is someone I worked with when I was sandblasting for a living. Every time I'd see her, it would be in her work clothes, stuff worn for rough, dirty, hard work. Kinda like the work outfit she put together on board the SR1. I'd get to know some about what she's like from working with her, but her work clothes would only tell me a part of what she's like. We get to be friends, then one day, I see her at the baseball game and she's wearing something she actually likes. Now, this doesn't change what I already know, it ADDS to what I know. Maybe I find out she likes dresses, or bell bottom blue jeans, short shorts, goth - whatever. This adds, not subtracts.

The iconic look fulfills this requirement, and it also gives Ash a distinctive look for the game, much as Han Solo's outfit in Star Wars. 

Personally, I think because you don't like the outfit, you're not seeing my point. You want to emphasis her military side. I want to see other sides of Ash. Being sexy and a little soft IS an aspect of every woman I've met, and it's nice to see that side of Ash.

You do realize that Ash's outfit here is a military uniform, right?  These are her work clothes, if not her fighting clothes.  "The need to look pretty" really isn't a high priority for military uniforms.

If Ash had genuine civilian clothes, I'd be fine with it.  A hoodie.  A dress, a T-shirt.  Fine.  That's her preference.  But what she's wearing is an Alliance uniform. A unique one designed with one express purpose:  to give Ashley Williams sex appeal.  Ash's personality had absolutely nothing to do with it at all.

So Ashley can't be feminine with her work clothes? You assume a great deal about her without having played the game and caught up with what she's been doing.

[Nizzemancer]

Put more of the sexiness in the... the Marine more sexiness goes in...

[incinerator950]

Nizzemancer wrote...

Put more of the sexiness in the... the Marine more sexiness goes in...

Actually, the best saying is Men become Marines, Women become Matresses. 

[Nizzemancer]

incinerator950 wrote...

Nizzemancer wrote...

Put more of the sexiness in the... the Marine more sexiness goes in...

Actually, the best saying is Men become Marines, Women become Matresses. 

We keep asking for field-matresses on exercises but we never get any ****ty women...only the hot ones who don't want to sleep with us...I mean under us...I mean let us sleep on them.