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[Ridirkulous]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

If the demo and leak are any indication, the actual depth of the setting/world and quality of writing have been going steadily down.

There's plenty of people who wont' care, as long as it's "cinematic" and there's lots of explosions and shotty bits. More power to them.
Me? To me a RPG is all about universe/setting/atmosphere....

Honestly, I hope this is not true but I have this sinking feeling that this is what we're looking at. Can't say I'm too surprised though. Afterall I was disappointed by the lack of influence from the first game to the second.

Though if by any chance I do decide to get this game I hope I don't recieve an email from the Alliance apologizing for the way in which I presume they treated my paragon (I never played Arrival but I assume I would go that route). However I have another sinking feeling that will happen to as well.

[Chuvvy]

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

You can tell how important ME2 was to ME3 by the demo and hearsay. Really. No sarcasm here!

The entirty of the script is avilable on the internet. And quite a few of the released videos just confirm stuff in the script, along with the leaked concept art.

[GirlPower23]

 Both games were and are a joke. 

[augustburnt]

Put simple, this is DA2 all over again.

[Iakus]

Jedi Sentinel Arian wrote...

It seems - considering the evidences - that Mass Effect 2 decisions has very few influence on Mass Effect 3. Collector Base which was the biggest decision of this game has no practical importance in ME3, other major decisions and siding with this or that aren't as important as it was in ME2. And it seems that the Trial is gone too.

Another disappointing part is, with some excuses all ME2 squadmates are gone to defend solely from their interests; despite the fact that they're more vulnerable while deserting Shepard. Just Because ME1 squads are more popular.

So what do you think?
Was ME2 a big Joke or a Shepard's Dream?!
Is ME3 a RPG or a shooter with no (or only few) RPG elements?

Well, given the exact same questions were asked about ME1 decisions mattering in ME2, would anyone really be suprised if ME2 got the minimalist treatment also?

[tonnactus]

Jedi Sentinel Arian wrote...

Was ME2 a big Joke or a Shepard's Dream?!

It was a grotesque nightmare. But after the Mass Effect 3 demo im not sure that this dream is actually over...

Modifié par tonnactus, 15 février 2012 - 12:28 .

[RVallant]

augustburnt wrote...

Put simple, this is DA2 all over again.

Ew no... DA2 was just, awful in every possible way.

ME3's demo is quite good for a demo.

[tonnactus]

RVallant wrote...


Ew no... DA2 was just, awful in every possible way.

Dragon Age 2 has a lot of party banter. Dragon Age 2 has loot. Dragon Age 2 has a lot skills to choose for every class. To keep it short: Da 2 ist better then Mass Effect 2 in every way except the graphics.

Modifié par tonnactus, 15 février 2012 - 04:34 .

[RVallant]

tonnactus wrote...

RVallant wrote...


Ew no... DA2 was just, awful in every possible way.

Dragon Age 2 has a lot of party banter. Dragon Age 2 has loot. Dragon Age 2 has a lot skills to choose for every class. To keep it short: Da 2 ist better then Mass Effect 2 in every way except the graphics.

Go play some flash loot-spawn game then. They have loot and skills but you wouldn't be pushing it for GOTY anyday soon. There's more to a game than loot and skills and I'm primarily an RPG player so if you're trying to stick the RPG argument on me you're going in the wrong direction.

It was rubbish. If you like it, good for you. But comparing it to ME2 is an insult to the Mass Effect series imo and I'm not ME2's biggest fan in the first place.

[AgitatedLemon]

tonnactus wrote...

RVallant wrote...


Ew no... DA2 was just, awful in every possible way.

Dragon Age 2 has a lot of party banter. Dragon Age 2 has loot. Dragon Age 2 has a lot skills to choose for every class. To keep it short: Da 2 ist better then Mass Effect 2 in every way except the graphics.

A High fantasy swords n' spells RPG is probably not the best comaprison to a SciFi third person shooter.

[tonnactus]

RVallant wrote...
ere's more to a game than loot and skills...

Exactly. "Alive" npc that voice their opinion about the decisions in the game Hawk actually makes to name one example. Npc that met eachother in their houses and in bars. Npc that actually talk with eachother. (real banter,not just 1-2 sentences now and then)
Despite that Dagon Age 2 isnt a character driven game with the party members as a focus its better then Mass Effec 2 in this regard by a large margin(and the characters of Mass Effect 2 were the story according to casey hudson).  And that says a lot about the quality of this overhyped space pokemon game.

I have yet to find one thing except the graphics that is better in Mass Effect 2.

Modifié par tonnactus, 16 février 2012 - 12:31 .

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

So we were right. Even the most important ME2 decisions are proved to be unimportant in ME3.

[OutlawTorn6806]

Thank god, cuz ME 2 sucked. And nearly all of your squad could've died. How do they even properly handle that in a good way.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

OutlawTorn6806 wrote...

Thank god, cuz ME 2 sucked. And nearly all of your squad could've died. How do they even properly handle that in a good way.

And most of RPG-Fans and wise BSN users consider ME2 more RPG-ish (pro choice/consequence) than ME3.

[OutlawTorn6806]

Jedi Sentinel Arian wrote...

OutlawTorn6806 wrote...

Thank god, cuz ME 2 sucked. And nearly all of your squad could've died. How do they even properly handle that in a good way.

And most of RPG-Fans and wise BSN users consider ME2 more RPG-ish (pro choice/consequence) than ME3.

Nice generalization. Btw, ME3 had more choice variables than any other ME games combined. At least in ME3 there were power specializations, gun customization, a real story, real characters, isn't another ''Lets create the A-team'' scenario over and over, nearly unplayable gameplay, better level design/setpieces. You know, the good stuff. 

[Weskerr]

OutlawTorn6806 wrote...

Jedi Sentinel Arian wrote...

OutlawTorn6806 wrote...

Thank god, cuz ME 2 sucked. And nearly all of your squad could've died. How do they even properly handle that in a good way.

And most of RPG-Fans and wise BSN users consider ME2 more RPG-ish (pro choice/consequence) than ME3.

Nice generalization. Btw, ME3 had more choice variables than any other ME games combined. At least in ME3 there were power specializations, gun customization, a real story, real characters, isn't another ''Lets create the A-team'' scenario over and over, nearly unplayable gameplay, better level design/setpieces. You know, the good stuff. 

I have 694 hours played on ME2. The character development in that game is the best I've seen in any game, not just in the Mass Effect series. And the ending. despite being hollywoodesque, is immensely satisfying and well done.

[Cainne Chapel]

Jedi Sentinel Arian wrote...

OutlawTorn6806 wrote...

Thank god, cuz ME 2 sucked. And nearly all of your squad could've died. How do they even properly handle that in a good way.

And most of RPG-Fans and wise BSN users consider ME2 more RPG-ish (pro choice/consequence) than ME3.

Mass effect never was a Full RPG FYI.

Also... less than 2 months ago ME2 was supposedly lackluster by a lot of forum posters, but whatever, ME3 had TONS of consequences and variants there of, To say that it didn't (as well as customization, etc etc) I have to even wonder if you played the same game I did....

I swear peoples opinions change like the moon in here....

anyway as a whole ME3 nor ME2 exist in a vacuum, sure in ME2 a lot of choices in ME1 dont play out immediately but many are referenced, same wiht ME3, those choices that dont really have a huge impact (Because lets be honest not every choice can and will effect a galactic war) are referenced in ways and the big choices allow for things to play out differently, in fact if you DONT import its hard to get some scenarios that are easy for those that do.  Not to mention lack of connection with certain characters and so on.

So no I dont think any game in the trilogy is pointless.  If we didn't have two, we would of missed awesome characters like TIM, Jack, Mordin, Grunt, More Garrus, and so on.


and everyone could use more Garrus in their lives... the BSN would be a better place

Modifié par Cainne Chapel, 07 avril 2012 - 06:25 .

[OutlawTorn6806]

Cainne Chapel wrote...

Jedi Sentinel Arian wrote...

OutlawTorn6806 wrote...

Thank god, cuz ME 2 sucked. And nearly all of your squad could've died. How do they even properly handle that in a good way.

And most of RPG-Fans and wise BSN users consider ME2 more RPG-ish (pro choice/consequence) than ME3.

Mass effect never was a Full RPG FYI.

Also... less than 2 months ago ME2 was supposedly lackluster by a lot of forum posters, but whatever, ME3 had TONS of consequences and variants there of, To say that it didn't (as well as customization, etc etc) I have to even wonder if you played the same game I did....

I swear peoples opinions change like the moon in here....

People will change opinions to fit their needs at that exact moment. Nostalgia glasses and all. 

[Cainne Chapel]

OutlawTorn6806 wrote...

Cainne Chapel wrote...

Jedi Sentinel Arian wrote...

OutlawTorn6806 wrote...

Thank god, cuz ME 2 sucked. And nearly all of your squad could've died. How do they even properly handle that in a good way.

And most of RPG-Fans and wise BSN users consider ME2 more RPG-ish (pro choice/consequence) than ME3.

Mass effect never was a Full RPG FYI.

Also... less than 2 months ago ME2 was supposedly lackluster by a lot of forum posters, but whatever, ME3 had TONS of consequences and variants there of, To say that it didn't (as well as customization, etc etc) I have to even wonder if you played the same game I did....

I swear peoples opinions change like the moon in here....

People will change opinions to fit their needs at that exact moment. Nostalgia glasses and all. 

well i can at least rest assured my opinion is consistent and rarely changes with the tide.

[Aryn2382]

Just so you know, some of the bigger decisions have impacts more than you realize in 3.

Wanna not use Legion? Kiss him goodbye to Cerberus, and see him as an assassin in 3. Maelon's data, ensuring people survived to the next, so many things matter that I'm pretty certain you're not aware of what you speak of. Heck, move this to Spoilers.

Destroy/Save the Base also impacts your final EMS requirements for the Destroy/Control endings.