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[kohiek]

My favorite part about missions is the waves that ahve an objective. I enjoy the weapon upgrades. That is fun. I might suggest more specific things in the store. I could pay 15000 for a guaranteed weapon, but it's random. Stuff like that would be nice.

[Jarradane]

I hated that no matter how soon or how late an enemy rolls my power will miss, even if they roll straight into my throw.
It was kind of ridiculous.

I didn't like that if someone staggers a guardian no other stagger will affect them until after the entire animation has completed, when stacked with the fact that these are just a 'cop out' difficult enemy fighting them isn't challenging, just annoying.

As I'm sure others have mentioned, the unlock system is just ridiculous, and feels as though multiplayer was just an afterthought.
My friend played with me and another friend for eight hours as a soldier and unlocked nothing but pistols despite buying dozens of verteran packs. We have played many games since the multiplayer went live, and he still hasn't got a mattock.

It was ridiculous that the identical male and female characters within the classes counted as separate unlocks.

The eliminate missions were not fun, the targets usually run and hide and the ridiculously small time frame you're given is barely enough for one player to make it across the map in time, let alone finish the enemy.

Phantom instant kills are stupid, I plan everything, so randomly dying every now and then when really screws up my strategy, especially if I know I have enough time to revive a squadmate and use my spec ops pack and then tech armor before I die.
But no, random death is the enemy of smart tactical thinking.
It wouldn't be so bad if it were a one hit kill if you were unshielded, you can learn to work around that, but random instant kills are silly.

Once again universal cooldowns kill gameplay, there's almost no point in using anything but throw as a sentinel unless you're facing an armored target, as the cooldown on warp is uncomfortably long when you take its minuscule effect into account.

Tech Armor is still useless, besides providing a puny amount of damage mitigation, there's no point in detonating it as all it does is make the enemies immediately adjacent to you take a step back.
And if you upgrade the damage, you still have to contend with the uncomfortably long cooldown and you will lose its only advantage if you don't capitalize on the damage mitigation.

Aliens not being able to roll is ridiculous.

Physics based powers not working on shielded enemies feels wrong sometimes, particularly singularity.

Controls are too clunky to keep up with a competent player, too often we lose the wave because I roll instead of taking cover, or cancel a sprint accidentally because I need to be over precise, or take cover when I try to revive a squadmate, or miss a melee when I have done nothing different to other connecting hits.

Besides the problems the multiplayer is really fun, I could put up with the boring and messed up gameplay, but there's really no way to justify random unlocks in a game where class, weapons and equipment matters so much.

You could play 100 hours and not get the right unlocks, simply because they are based on luck.

That's pathetic.

[BooBooZX]

I been loving the MP, untill lately where i try doing silver/gold and i end up in the same rooms w/ people that have n7 ratings of 5 or less using lvl 1 characters. Maybe have some form of  a req for the harder levels to stop this from happening? in the end it's really annoying to be n7 rating 100 and end up with people who havent even beat bronze one time or leveled one time, heck i might not care about low lvls if they had a high n7 rating meaning they might have good weapons to make up for it.

Oh, i also somehow managed to get on a ledge w/ biotic charge on the snowy/open map place and ended up falling down through the map,left the game so it wouldn't make a never ending game if team mates died, joined another game....it was the very same game (which i left after wave 6 so i lost the credits from it dang it )

Modifié par BooBooZX, 22 février 2012 - 02:31 .

[Hunter-Wolf]

Jarradane wrote...

I hated that no matter how soon or how late an enemy rolls my power will miss, even if they roll straight into my throw.
It was kind of ridiculous.

No it isn't, there is no need to overcomplicate things.

I didn't like that if someone staggers a guardian no other stagger will affect them until after the entire animation has completed, when stacked with the fact that these are just a 'cop out' difficult enemy fighting them isn't challenging, just annoying.

And what is the point of staggering them twice when they are already staggred ..  you are supposed to be shooting them while they are staggred not staggeing them again .. this is to prevent players from cheating and locking Guardians in infinite stagger loop ... and you clealy can't recognize a challenage when you see one .. they are some of the most fun enemies to defeat .. there are already dozens of ways to knock them out (Stagger them / Shoot through the shield openings or shoot their limbs outside the shield / Pull their shields / Flank them / Throw grenade behind them / Use Engineer Bot to harass them ... etc etc) .. there is nothing anoying about them at all.

As I'm sure others have mentioned, the unlock system is just ridiculous, and feels as though multiplayer was just an afterthought.
My friend played with me and another friend for eight hours as a soldier and unlocked nothing but pistols despite buying dozens of verteran packs. We have played many games since the multiplayer went live, and he still hasn't got a mattock.

I bought a few and i got Salarians and Asari ... it is jsut fine .. many people actually like it, it is fresh and different from teh boring linear progressino systems identical in all games these days (that completely de-value unlocks), i'd have that exciting system any day over the boring linear systems in other games.

i wish to unlock Drell, Quarians, Krogan and Turians (haven't even seen a single Turian so far in action) but i don't go whining about it .. i paly the game more .. earn more cash .. try my luck on Silve and Gold Diffculty (for extra cash) and keep hoping to get one of those classes .. not becasue it is detrimental  to my enjoyment that i don't have these characters yet .. but becasue i want more options to experiment with .. however and whenever they come i'm ok with that .. this system taught me not to lock myself into a single class, race, weapon all the time.

The eliminate missions were not fun, the targets usually run and hide and the ridiculously small time frame you're given is barely enough for one player to make it across the map in time, let alone finish the enemy.

And don't know what's worng with the AI in your game but they never run anywhere .. if you mean the Nemisis .. tehy do that wether they are targets or not .. Guradians never run .. they confront you even if tehy are assassination targets ... besides .. that's the whole idea of it being a challenge XD

Phantom instant kills are stupid, I plan everything, so randomly dying every now and then when really screws up my strategy, especially if I know I have enough time to revive a squadmate and use my spec ops pack and then tech armor before I die.
But no, random death is the enemy of smart tactical thinking.
It wouldn't be so bad if it were a one hit kill if you were unshielded, you can learn to work around that, but random instant kills are silly.

Nope they aren't, they only instant kill you if you aren't paying attention to your surroundings, other than that you can easily avoid it, i'm lv.37 (the N7 rank) and i haven't been killed by their instant kill grap attack once .. if i see one i either confront her and take her out with my teammates or keep my distance until i'm ready to pummel her.

Once again universal cooldowns kill gameplay, there's almost no point in using anything but throw as a sentinel unless you're facing an armored target, as the cooldown on warp is uncomfortably long when you take its minuscule effect into account.

Want faster cooldowns don't use too many heavy weapons or use a single weapon or upgrade skills that lower wieght penlaty so that cooldown goes faster (up to 200% faster) .. i play an Adept Asari and mainly use my skills instead of my weapons .. it is just fine.

And Warp isn't minuscule in any way .. it is a great skill to cause Biotic Explosions .. and very good at removing armor (very useful when dealing with Atlas or Sentry Guns), and for other enemies (probably husks or whatever enemies we will have in the full game) it prevents healing.

Aliens not being able to roll is ridiculous.

Quite the opposite .. it is one of the best things made to diffrentiate teh races and make each feel unique .. i don't see any reason to complain about this !!!

Physics based powers not working on shielded enemies feels wrong sometimes, particularly singularity.

Nope, it is just fine .. if they worked players would be abusing them .. and that will remove a lot of challenge from thr game ... besides .. even if the physical effect doesn't work .. they damage them.

Controls are too clunky to keep up with a competent player, too often we lose the wave because I roll instead of taking cover, or cancel a sprint accidentally because I need to be over precise, or take cover when I try to revive a squadmate, or miss a melee when I have done nothing different to other connecting hits

Controls are jsut fine .. they just need a little getting used to .. the only problem is placing the revive button on the movement/cover/running button.

You could play 100 hours and not get the right unlocks, simply because they are based on luck.

That's pathetic.

Fact is .. there is no such thing as RIGHT unlocks .. the game isn't supposed to spoon feed you .. this system is great for making players experiamnet with all sorts of classes and weapons .. i and it takes a lot of time to unlock everything .. which is great.

[thaBlindSniper]

I will not be spending any time playing the multiplayer in this game. Halo: Reach and Call of Duty killed survival games for me. If it were more of a mission-based game type, I'd reconsider, but I really do not like fighting waves. I'm certain I've experienced enough of this multiplayer through the demo to last me a lifetime (or two).

[Gold374]

Great game. Brilliant classes, brilliant weapons and brilliant powers, all perfectly balanced(from what I've seen anyway). Plenty of people complain about the random drop system, but it certainly keeps things fresh, and doesn't seem too bad. Only thing I would say is to maybe make the Veteran and Recruit pack drop lists mutually exculsive? I hate unlocking stuff like infiltrator colours(which I rarely use) in Veteran packs. Enemy AI is better than I expected too- makes for a genuine challenge. Some crippling bugs, though. My drell vanguard glitches out of the map every single time I play him on firebase white, and occasionally on firebase ghost as well. Also, my veteran packs often go missing when I try to purchase them, only to have the items show up the next time I reboot origin. Aside from that though, it's good enough to keep me away from TF2 for a week(which is no mean feat). Speaking of which, is there going to be a trading system coming in the full game, to counteract the random drops somewhat? Or hats ?

[Cyber Raul]

I was one of those say "I don't want mp". Im still thinking don't use it to get best by SP, but I tryied it and it looks amazing and I go play it after finish SP game without use MP. I love this MP, nice work BW.

Modifié par Cyber Raul, 22 février 2012 - 02:58 .

[Rwjfox]

Will your characters be able to level above 20 in the full game?

[Cossack72]

I have 2 new issues with Phantoms. And no, it's not about them being "too hard" I can 1 shot them just fine.

1. Sometimes when you stasis bubble them they fall out of it even if they're dead center in it and haven't taken any damage. What's worse is that sometimes when they fall out, they get frozen in their getting up animation, and are invincible. Then, suddenly, they start attacking you even though they're still frozen on the ground. Basically, you can't shoot them because they're invisible and they instakill you from a mile away; literally, your character will be warped 20 yards away to her, and you're dead.

2. Phantoms (and all other enemies, really) being able to kill you as you revive yourself with a revival pack. Example:

I revived myself not knowing there were 2 Phantoms behind a wall near me. The second I get up they run at me and kill me in less than 2 seconds.

When you use a revival pack, you should be impervious to all damage/getting knocked back for 5 seconds.

"Oh but Cossack, that's undermining the difficulty."

Yes and no it isn't.

Yes, it would be unfair if there were no consequences, which is why I'd suggest if you shoot your gun or use ANY powers during that 5 second window, you can start taking damage again. And no, it isn't undermining the challenge. Challenge is facing down 4 Phantoms and 2 Atlases while trying to complete a "capture the intel" objective; getting killed while you're getting up from reviving yourself is fake difficulty.

Oh, and invisible turrets, but I think I mentioned that a few pages back.

Modifié par Cossack72, 22 février 2012 - 03:20 .

[lemiel14n3]

First, I enjoy the Multiplayer, very much, this is proof that a wider game could work set in the Mass Effect Universe, even an MMO.

But I do have some issues and suggestions.

First, Phantoms are absurdly over powered. The presence of more than one on the field pretty much guarantees that we are going to all die.
Second, engineer turrets are far too underpowered, given the threat they pose when enemies deploy them, you'ld think they'd be a bit more valuable.  maybe make it so you can only have one active at a time to compensate.

It would be very nice of you to make unlocks from the demo available once the game is released.

A friend of mine really wants to play as a batarian, could you help him out there?

And for that matter there are a lot of characters we would like to play as and hope we'll see in the final release or as DLC (please don't make DLC too expensive just because you know we'll pay.)
Batarians
Male Quarians
and more variety for classes, why not a Turian Vanguard? etc...

could you make it so we could purchase specific characters with an impressive expense, maybe double the cost of the veteran packs?

that's what comes to mind

Modifié par lemiel14n3, 22 février 2012 - 03:46 .

[Daklanceff]

random character unlocks is the WORST IDEA EVER

[Tonzokukangen]

I found that I was able to play the multiplayer demo today. To my great surprise. I made a character, got the colors, picked the weapons and set the powers. I was ready to go play on my level 1 adept. Things were looking great. But you know what kills the hype for an idea like this? I understand its a demo/beta but nothing lamer than creating a match and no one joins because your level 1, and no matter what quick match I get into, I get kicked because I'm level 1. A LEVEL based search would be a great idea as I'm sure MANY people have already thought the same thing and would make sense for many reasons. Some of which include a balanced team, a fair chance for new comers, and being placed in a group with people of a similar level/skill. Please add this as it is hard to level if you can't do anything but play by yourself and get killed in the first wave on bronze. Otherwise thanks for a good single player demo and I look forward to the game itself.

[ChaosAgentLoki]

I can easily answer this question. What I like about the multiplayer is the similarity to Uncharted 2's addictive arena co-op mode. The ability to use classes from the main game is another bonus that ups my enjoyment as well. What I didn't really like is the inability to use any race with any class. That and the lack of people playing the demo on the PS3...or I'm just unlucky, not really sure about that. Anyways, the multiplayer is smooth and very fun. I didn't originally think I would like it at all, but you guys managed to pull off something enjoyable. Great job!

[ChaosAgentLoki]

Tonzokukangen wrote...

I found that I was able to play the multiplayer demo today. To my great surprise. I made a character, got the colors, picked the weapons and set the powers. I was ready to go play on my level 1 adept. Things were looking great. But you know what kills the hype for an idea like this? I understand its a demo/beta but nothing lamer than creating a match and no one joins because your level 1, and no matter what quick match I get into, I get kicked because I'm level 1. A LEVEL based search would be a great idea as I'm sure MANY people have already thought the same thing and would make sense for many reasons. Some of which include a balanced team, a fair chance for new comers, and being placed in a group with people of a similar level/skill. Please add this as it is hard to level if you can't do anything but play by yourself and get killed in the first wave on bronze. Otherwise thanks for a good single player demo and I look forward to the game itself.

I have to agree with that. I had two people leave a game as soon as I joined because I had just started up the demo. A level search would be a great addition if at all possible.

[Crimson-Engage]

My only beef is the unlock system, the puny Quarian Sentry turret and the crazy amount of Phantoms in Gold.

Unlocks- I'v unlocked every thing for my human soldier yet i keep unlocking the human soldier and only being given XP. I have yet to get my Quarian Engineer. My friend has it and we thought based on the image of the turret she get's it would be like that of the Cerberus. Instead, it's a puny little rinky dink flying saucer that dies in one hit.

Next are the Phantoms. I don't mind how hard they are to kill but the amount of them forced onto the player on Gold is as astounding amount. 7. 7 is the number that killed me by cloaking and killing us from behind in ONE BLOW.

Tone it down. We are all level 20's and by the time with get to wave 10 we are out of supplies.

[giwigiwigiwigiwi]

I hope there could be more custom choices on faces, not only human face, but asari faces, turian faces, krogan faces... whatever. As you can see in mass effect 1 & 2, there are all kinds of NPCs with different faces, that means it is possible to make a system that could adjust alien faces. Every asari with a Liara like face....

[kidlantern]

 Also Id really like to have other genders.  I want to play as a male quarian, but my  girlfriend who wants to be a female drell.

[Haron50]

i need look a special movements in turians.


More faces for each race and more accesories.

Modifié par Haron50, 22 février 2012 - 05:51 .

[lacunista]

 Played for the first time today on my XBox.

I searched for quick match games about 60 times.

I played 1 Silver challenge for my first game (I used the default quickmatch settings), and when I died in the game, everyone said they wouldn't revive me because I shouldn't have done a Silver challenge with a level 1 character.  I was stuck in Spectator Mode, so I left the game and lost my points. 

I completed 1 mission successfully, and it was a lot of fun!

I played 1 mission with only 3 people, and we lost horribly.  It seemed clear that you only stand a chance with 4 players.

About 25 times, I joined the lobby successfully, but someone left.  Usually everyone else would leave immediately after that, but even if they didn't, I would leave, because going with 3 players didn't seem practical.

About 25 times, I was disconnected while searching and had to search again.

About 8 times, I started a mission successfully with 4 people, but was disconnected during the game.  I received error messages like "The host player has left.  Restarting current wave..." and "You have lost your connection to the game."  Sometimes one after another.  In these situations, I gained 0 credits and 0 experience.

After a while, I spent about 40 minutes just trying to start a game successfully.  That was when I got a lot of games with only 3 players, or games where I was disconnected as we were starting.  At that point, I stopped playing.

All told, I played for about 3 - 4 hours, completed 1 mission, unlocked 1 Starter pack and 1 Recruit pack, and got to level 7.  It was fun when I got to play, but the disconnections were discouraging!  Even for a demo, it seemed pretty bad.  I probably won't even bother trying the full game's multiplayer.

[Warcav]

I don't know if this has been posted before, but Revive needs to be binded to a different button. On the 360 I can't count the number of times I've tried to hold A to revive someone and just end up taking cover instead. It's INCREDIBLY annoying.

Other than that it's a great game. I didn't play ME: 1 or 2 but I'll be getting this.

[SpaceBigfoot]

Not sure if this has been brought up already, but when a Krogan goes down, its arms disappear. Also, I know this makes sense for Krogans and Asari, but being unable to choose your gender for aliens is lame.

[Emzx19]

i also like the n7 level to kind of show experience but i would like a skill level at the same time beside it sick of lvl 1's on silver and gold as well as total idiots that cant play. i always thought i was bad at mass effect but when i triple second places score and destroy 3rd and 4th place its annoying to play with idiots. phantoms are OP big time. i want a biotic with a instant kill hand cannon consisting of purple dilido's as well as tactical cloak if i have to take 20 phantoms on wave 9 of silver turrets need to have a slower fire rate or less damage as well as if theres 2 turrets that can cover 1 area at a time if 2 turrets bullets can interlock somehow and cover the same area its op for the health they have and combat engineers can repair them way to fast. the store is god awful who in Montreal said "yeah man this will never get boring". there should be packs like this

Charecter pack (1) upgrade current character (2) semi-rare character (3) Rare character
Weapon pack (1) basic weapons  (2) uprage basic weapons (3) semi rare weapons (4) upgrade semi rare weapons (5) rare weapons (6) upgrade rare weapons
Weapon Attachments (1) pistol upgrades (2) smg upgrades (3) shotgun upgrades (4) assault rifle upgrades
(5) sniper rifle upgrades (7 ETC...) and so on for upgrades on the already acuired weapon mods one for each class of weapon. and finnaly 1 pack for each type of equipment (cobra missles, medi gel, special ops pack, ammo pack. and finnaly upgrades on armor to custimize the armor.

such easy fixes they can make this a ground breaking multiplayer its already pretty dam good just needs little fixes as well as races. wont give away any spoilers but a certaian character that was leaked would be cool to have in mp as well as the other that was leaked unmasked humans and in the special forces triler that krogan made a bad ass scream while running and heavy meleeing i would like to see that put into the krogan instead of the childish one we have. unless the krogan sentinel is different? and put every race that can possibly apply to every class that works turian infiltator anybody? male quarian soldier? and the drell needs more shields of health he sucks so bad i use him when i need a laugh

[starbuck331]

Tonzokukangen wrote...

I found that I was able to play the multiplayer demo today. To my great surprise. I made a character, got the colors, picked the weapons and set the powers. I was ready to go play on my level 1 adept. Things were looking great. But you know what kills the hype for an idea like this? I understand its a demo/beta but nothing lamer than creating a match and no one joins because your level 1, and no matter what quick match I get into, I get kicked because I'm level 1. A LEVEL based search would be a great idea as I'm sure MANY people have already thought the same thing and would make sense for many reasons. Some of which include a balanced team, a fair chance for new comers, and being placed in a group with people of a similar level/skill. Please add this as it is hard to level if you can't do anything but play by yourself and get killed in the first wave on bronze. Otherwise thanks for a good single player demo and I look forward to the game itself.

For the bottom option, where it says random, you should change it to bronze. There is bronze, silver and gold and gold is pretty difficult. You maybe have been there. I started out on bronze and I don't remember being kicked out of any games. It's pretty easy too.  That should give you enough experience to not scare people off at the higher difficulties.

[Slothful Koala]

I like a challenge, truly I do. A lot of what is done in multiplayer is excellent in delivering a challenge. Except for one thing, the phantom.

Whenever you see a phantom moving towards you, turn the gun on yourself. It's the only way. They shoot their little palm guns at you annihilating your shields (1350 as Krogan) and down you. Now you know that your teammates are going to try and save you. So, to reduce collateral damage you would use your medi-gel, correct? Wrong.

When you self revive whilst a phantom is anywhere near you, you will stand up and quickly die as one of two things happen.

1. She insta kills you.

2. She hits you sending you stumbling into a corner to be beat on like a piñata until you've probably chucked your controller into the TV.

I hate them. Truly I do. They aren't fun and often they whipe out everyone. Every. Single. Teammate.

Reduce their finger gun damage. Just do it. They already come at you in two's or three's. Why can they kill me (again a Krogan, 1350 shields) in two seconds?

[VitaLife]

I've thought of a few more things that could be added/needs fixing. (PS3)

1. Gun customization? Color options? Unlocked with packs?

2. Level restriction for host

3. Pistols are OP. The Carnifex is basically a miniature sniper...

4. The falling through the map glitch, encountered it a few times.

5. Freezing, I've frozen a few times. So have a couple of my friends.

6. MORE Co-op options. Infinite mode? I'D LOVE INFINITE MODE!

7. An option to fight all types of enemies at once.