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[N7Raider]

nobunagatron wrote...

N7Raider wrote...

1. isn't the salarian in the first picture the salarian bartender from the ME1 E3 demo
2. assuming those pictures are of kirahe the first picture had the bright blue lighting and the second had the dark lighting tones will change
3. once again the level of nitpicking here is astounding pointing out a continuity error fine, but you're acting like this is a plot hole that would equal the quarians and the geth becoming best friends for no reason. You're whole argument about the way things look being important is complete crap, if that were the case than how come Shepard can be an albino in ME1 and a black guy in ME2?

1. Nope, its Kirrahe, just a smaller version of this :

2. If you really think the difference between pics 1 and 2 is anywhere near as drastic as 1or 2 compared to 3 or 4,  then your perception of color is quite a bit off ( AND I'M NOT INSULTING YOU, maybe you monitor is a little old or you percieve colors differently)

and 3 I will address in two parts 
3a. It is nowhere near as big an issue as your geth/quarian scenario, In no way are the two comparable, and in no part of ANY of my comments have I compared it to anything as fundamentally as important as the Geth/Quarian war; you are extremely disingenuous to imply otherwise. I have compared it to changing the skin color of Aria, Kolyat, Jacob, and Ms. al-Jilani AFTER having said character appear a different way in the first place.

3b. My "crap" agrument about visual apperance is completely important, relevent, and factual. Video Games are an interactive medium far more reliant on visual imagery than you seem to understand. Games like Okami, El Shaddai, Super Paper Mario, and Borderlands stand out from other games almost solely because of their unique art style and the appearance of their characters and enviroments. Shepard can change appearance because Bioware thinks it is important for you to customize him/her to become unique and ultimately "your Shepard", and because from ME 1 to ME2 Shepard did, suffured ridicoulous damage down to a cellular level, and was REBUILT. ( also note that ingame, you were treated as if you had always looked however your Shepard did in ME2, how the hell else would the VS or Anderson or anyone else recognize Shepard ??) 

If you design a character to look a certain way, then obviously you did it for a reason and if your going to change a characters appeareance for any reason, ESPECIALLY to the point where some one who has played ME 1 ( where you first met Kirrahe) dozens of times can't recognize  them when they see them, then as a developer you should at the very least have a reason and hopefully share that reason with the fanbase.

Its NOT a gamebreaking issue, I will STILL buy the CE, but yes I personally think character consistency both visually and attitudewise needs to either be consistent or have a reason behind the change.

the colors are that different the first one is brighter blue the second one is more black you're only showing kirahe in the shadows, the game has a different color palette, different engine it has more of a sunset color that's that.  I am using a 6 month old mac it's not my computer.
The whole thing with Shepard looking different in ME2, the goal of the lazarus project was to bring shepard back exactly like he was.  You can still change your appearance for no reason so your argument is crap.
Holy crap video games are a visual medium?!?  I thought I was reading a very descriptive book!  Don't patronize me dude I know they use visuals, you know what else uses visuals movies and they frankly don't seem to give a crap when they recast actors.  
As for the fact that you can't recognize him, so?  The only recognizable salarian is Mordin and that's only cause he's a lot lighter than the others.  

[future_usmc]

It's also worth noting that the planets in which he is on are also different. Vermire was a very blue planet with water and sky blue...skies. Whereas Sur'kesh is a more greenish looking planet with the lighting from the sun emphasizing the greenish colors.

EDIT: when he's in the ship the ship's blue too haha

Modifié par future_usmc, 14 février 2012 - 11:48 .

[Kouper]

Whiners gonna whine.

Honestly as much as I liked the captain, I wouldn't have known ha you not pointed it out.

[nobunagatron]

N7Raider wrote...

nobunagatron wrote...

N7Raider wrote...

1. isn't the salarian in the first picture the salarian bartender from the ME1 E3 demo
2. assuming those pictures are of kirahe the first picture had the bright blue lighting and the second had the dark lighting tones will change
3. once again the level of nitpicking here is astounding pointing out a continuity error fine, but you're acting like this is a plot hole that would equal the quarians and the geth becoming best friends for no reason. You're whole argument about the way things look being important is complete crap, if that were the case than how come Shepard can be an albino in ME1 and a black guy in ME2?

1. Nope, its Kirrahe, just a smaller version of this :

2. If you really think the difference between pics 1 and 2 is anywhere near as drastic as 1or 2 compared to 3 or 4,  then your perception of color is quite a bit off ( AND I'M NOT INSULTING YOU, maybe you monitor is a little old or you percieve colors differently)

and 3 I will address in two parts 
3a. It is nowhere near as big an issue as your geth/quarian scenario, In no way are the two comparable, and in no part of ANY of my comments have I compared it to anything as fundamentally as important as the Geth/Quarian war; you are extremely disingenuous to imply otherwise. I have compared it to changing the skin color of Aria, Kolyat, Jacob, and Ms. al-Jilani AFTER having said character appear a different way in the first place.

3b. My "crap" agrument about visual apperance is completely important, relevent, and factual. Video Games are an interactive medium far more reliant on visual imagery than you seem to understand. Games like Okami, El Shaddai, Super Paper Mario, and Borderlands stand out from other games almost solely because of their unique art style and the appearance of their characters and enviroments. Shepard can change appearance because Bioware thinks it is important for you to customize him/her to become unique and ultimately "your Shepard", and because from ME 1 to ME2 Shepard did, suffured ridicoulous damage down to a cellular level, and was REBUILT. ( also note that ingame, you were treated as if you had always looked however your Shepard did in ME2, how the hell else would the VS or Anderson or anyone else recognize Shepard ??) 

If you design a character to look a certain way, then obviously you did it for a reason and if your going to change a characters appeareance for any reason, ESPECIALLY to the point where some one who has played ME 1 ( where you first met Kirrahe) dozens of times can't recognize  them when they see them, then as a developer you should at the very least have a reason and hopefully share that reason with the fanbase.

Its NOT a gamebreaking issue, I will STILL buy the CE, but yes I personally think character consistency both visually and attitudewise needs to either be consistent or have a reason behind the change.

the colors are that different the first one is brighter blue the second one is more black you're only showing kirahe in the shadows, the game has a different color palette, different engine it has more of a sunset color that's that.  I am using a 6 month old mac it's not my computer.
The whole thing with Shepard looking different in ME2, the goal of the lazarus project was to bring shepard back exactly like he was.  You can still change your appearance for no reason so your argument is crap.
Holy crap video games are a visual medium?!?  I thought I was reading a very descriptive book!  Don't patronize me dude I know they use visuals, you know what else uses visuals movies and they frankly don't seem to give a crap when they recast actors.  
As for the fact that you can't recognize him, so?  The only recognizable salarian is Mordin and that's only cause he's a lot lighter than the others.  

Kirrahe was recognizable until they changed him from green to brown, and Mordin is recognizable because he's missing a horn, he's actually the only Salarian in all 3 games to missing one.

If you really think that green is as different from blue as it is from brown, then you need to take a color theory class or look at an color wheel or even read a book about color spectrum because you are factually wrong.

Its not an issue of recasting, its an issue of a specific character being the wrong color. James Bond is recast every few years, what they don't do is just change Bond's color from a shade of Tan to a shade of Gray, which is essentially what they did with Kirrahe.

I'm not patronizing you, you said the way things look isn't important, I told you why it is and gave you specific examples why.

Changing an established characters visual appearance, ESPECIALLY something as basic as skin color, is a big deal and is jarring to those familiar with the preexisting character, I'm pretty sure you'd be a bit perpelxed if someone you knew suddenly looked different.

Read this next part slowly because you completely missed the point when I first said it:

Yes, you can change Shepards appearance from game to game, BUT you are treated as if you ALWAYS had the most recent appearance. That means that to every character you interact with , your ME 2 shepard looks JUST LIKE your ME 1 Shepard, only you ( the player) notice the difference, with the possible exemption of facial scarring.
And the reason thats so is because THE LAZARUS PROJECT REBUILT YOU EXACTLY LIKE SHEPARD WAS IN ME1.  If you cant understand these very basic facts, then the problem is on your end not mine.

I happen to know what I'm talking about, I've been doing lighting design, costume design, stage design, sound design AND make up,  for both theatre and film , FOR 12 YEARS.

Its a small detail over all, but I'm a detail person so it actually matters to me.

Modifié par nobunagatron, 15 février 2012 - 04:39 .

[Ecmoose]

You know I also thought he looked a bit off. I've played ME1 recently so his image is pretty fresh in my mind and when I was coming up on a Salarian in Sur'kesh I thought it was just the captain who run up to Wrex at the start of the mission.

I'll hope he's a place holder, because I liked his brighter look, and, considering Mordin worked under him in the STG years ago, I'd imagine they're nearly the same age so if aging Salarians are subdued in color he should have already been dull.

However considering they are reptilian, I wouldn't be too bothered if there's a good codex reason for the skin change, otherwise I'm bothered by this too.

[Tonymac]

The funny thing was, I did not know it was him by his looks - only in name.

[nobunagatron]

Kouper wrote...

Whiners gonna whine.

Honestly as much as I liked the captain, I wouldn't have known ha you not pointed it out.

If you didn't notice it thats fine, I did and I'd simply like to know why it was done.

I pay more attention to small details than most people do.

[Elvis_Mazur]

I thought it was caused by the light effects in the demo. You know how that can get weird sometimes on Mass Effect.

[Yuoaman]

He still seemed green in the PC version, he just always happened to be in shadows.

[nobunagatron]

Ecmoose wrote...

You know I also thought he looked a bit off. I've played ME1 recently so his image is pretty fresh in my mind and when I was coming up on a Salarian in Sur'kesh I thought it was just the captain who run up to Wrex at the start of the mission.

I'll hope he's a place holder, because I liked his brighter look, and, considering Mordin worked under him in the STG years ago, I'd imagine they're nearly the same age so if aging Salarians are subdued in color he should have already been dull.

However considering they are reptilian, I wouldn't be too bothered if there's a good codex reason for the skin change, otherwise I'm bothered by this too.

Salarians are actually amphibians, I completely agree with you otherwise. I just want want a lore based or even technical reason as to why he was so noticeably changed.

[TeffexPope]

I think its as simple as the improved engine. In the original his face is brighter, but now its a more realistic, chill color.

[Mike Shepard]

Kirrahe's skin color changed?! Pre-order confirmed!*

*I am trying to start a new meme, 'pre-order cancelled' is a bit stale IMHO

[GODzilla]

Of course there could be an absolutely reasonable explanation why the skin color was changed. Or why Ashley looks like a super-model and her lips are bigger. Or why Liaras bossom is considerably bigger. Kirrahe got some gang-ink, Ashley got a little fat around her lips and Liara got a boob job, seriously, there's a good explanation for everything.

But the truth is that they did the former (to Kirrahe) because they don't care about the little things and the latter because sex sells.

[Praetor Knight]

Mike Shepard wrote...

Kirrahe's skin color changed?! Pre-order confirmed!*

*I am trying to start a new meme, 'pre-order cancelled' is a bit stale IMHO

How about 'Precancel ordered'  ?

We might get a sizable stamp collection by ME3's release.

[nobunagatron]

TeffexPope wrote...

I think its as simple as the improved engine. In the original his face is brighter, but now its a more realistic, chill color.

A dull brown alien is no more or less realistic than a shiny green one. I have no doubt the engine is improved, Sheploo looks better than he ever has, although I wish the human faces were as well done as the various non-humans seem to be 

[super4star]

in mass effect 3 engin improvements makes everybody look like they go to solarium twice a week

but remember "hold the line"

Modifié par super4star, 15 février 2012 - 12:50 .

[nobunagatron]

GODzilla_GSPB wrote...

Of course there could be an absolutely reasonable explanation why the skin color was changed. Or why Ashley looks like a super-model and her lips are bigger. Or why Liaras bossom is considerably bigger. Kirrahe got some gang-ink, Ashley got a little fat around her lips and Liara got a boob job, seriously, there's a good explanation for everything.

But the truth is that they did the former (to Kirrahe) because they don't care about the little things and the latter because sex sells.

I dont spend a lot of time on Liara's boobs so I actually havent noticed, but my god her post shadow broker face  is SOOOOO much better than the regular me2 one.

Ashley on the other hand, not a big fan of her new appearance, every female soldier I've ever met keeps their long hair in a tight bun while on duty...

Modifié par nobunagatron, 15 février 2012 - 04:41 .

[Hunter of Legends]

nobunagatron wrote...

l0wn3r wrote...

old age. salarians age faster than humans.

I could accept that as reasonable explanation, but I'm unaware of anything in Mass Effect lore stating that Salarians ( or any species for that matter) change skin color as an effect of the aging process. As is, all I see is a character whose only visually distinct Salarian attribute was changed.

Asari skin color changes with age.

[N7Raider]

nobunagatron wrote...

N7Raider wrote...

nobunagatron wrote...

N7Raider wrote...

1. isn't the salarian in the first picture the salarian bartender from the ME1 E3 demo
2. assuming those pictures are of kirahe the first picture had the bright blue lighting and the second had the dark lighting tones will change
3. once again the level of nitpicking here is astounding pointing out a continuity error fine, but you're acting like this is a plot hole that would equal the quarians and the geth becoming best friends for no reason. You're whole argument about the way things look being important is complete crap, if that were the case than how come Shepard can be an albino in ME1 and a black guy in ME2?

1. Nope, its Kirrahe, just a smaller version of this :

2. If you really think the difference between pics 1 and 2 is anywhere near as drastic as 1or 2 compared to 3 or 4,  then your perception of color is quite a bit off ( AND I'M NOT INSULTING YOU, maybe you monitor is a little old or you percieve colors differently)

and 3 I will address in two parts 
3a. It is nowhere near as big an issue as your geth/quarian scenario, In no way are the two comparable, and in no part of ANY of my comments have I compared it to anything as fundamentally as important as the Geth/Quarian war; you are extremely disingenuous to imply otherwise. I have compared it to changing the skin color of Aria, Kolyat, Jacob, and Ms. al-Jilani AFTER having said character appear a different way in the first place.

3b. My "crap" agrument about visual apperance is completely important, relevent, and factual. Video Games are an interactive medium far more reliant on visual imagery than you seem to understand. Games like Okami, El Shaddai, Super Paper Mario, and Borderlands stand out from other games almost solely because of their unique art style and the appearance of their characters and enviroments. Shepard can change appearance because Bioware thinks it is important for you to customize him/her to become unique and ultimately "your Shepard", and because from ME 1 to ME2 Shepard did, suffured ridicoulous damage down to a cellular level, and was REBUILT. ( also note that ingame, you were treated as if you had always looked however your Shepard did in ME2, how the hell else would the VS or Anderson or anyone else recognize Shepard ??) 

If you design a character to look a certain way, then obviously you did it for a reason and if your going to change a characters appeareance for any reason, ESPECIALLY to the point where some one who has played ME 1 ( where you first met Kirrahe) dozens of times can't recognize  them when they see them, then as a developer you should at the very least have a reason and hopefully share that reason with the fanbase.

Its NOT a gamebreaking issue, I will STILL buy the CE, but yes I personally think character consistency both visually and attitudewise needs to either be consistent or have a reason behind the change.

the colors are that different the first one is brighter blue the second one is more black you're only showing kirahe in the shadows, the game has a different color palette, different engine it has more of a sunset color that's that.  I am using a 6 month old mac it's not my computer.
The whole thing with Shepard looking different in ME2, the goal of the lazarus project was to bring shepard back exactly like he was.  You can still change your appearance for no reason so your argument is crap.
Holy crap video games are a visual medium?!?  I thought I was reading a very descriptive book!  Don't patronize me dude I know they use visuals, you know what else uses visuals movies and they frankly don't seem to give a crap when they recast actors.  
As for the fact that you can't recognize him, so?  The only recognizable salarian is Mordin and that's only cause he's a lot lighter than the others.  

Kirrahe was recognizable until they changed him from green to brown, and Mordin is recognizable because he's missing a horn, he's actually the only Salarian in all 3 games to missing one.

If you really think that green is as different from blue as it is from brown, then you need to take a color theory class or look at an color wheel or even read a book about color pecterm because you are factually wrong.

Its not an issue of recasting, its an issue of a specific character being the wrong color. James Bond is recast every few years, what they don't do is just change Bond's color from a shade of Tan to a shade of Gray, which is essentially what they did with Kirrahe.

I'm not patronizing you, you said the way things look isn't important, I told you why it is and gave you specific examples why.

Changing an established characters visual appearance, ESPECIALLY something as basic as skin color, is a big deal and is jarring to those familiar with the preexisting character, I'm pretty sure you'd be a bit perpelxed if someone you knew suddenly looked different.

Read this next part slowly because you completely missed the point when I first said it:

Yes, you can change Shepards appearance from game to game, BUT you are treated as if you ALWAYS had the most recent appearance. That means that to every character you interact with , your ME 2 shepard looks JUST LIKE your ME 1 Shepard, only you ( the player) notice the difference, with the possible exemption of facial scarring.
And the reason thats so is because THE LAZARUS PROJECT REBUILT YOU EXACTLY LIKE SHEPARD WAS IN ME1.  If you cant understand these very basic facts, then the problem is on your end not mine.

I happen to know what I'm talking about, I've been doing lighting design, costume design, stage design, sound design AND make up,  for both theatre and film , FOR 12 YEARS.

Its a small detail over all, but I'm a detail person so it actually matters to me.

ok at this point this is turning into a joke he's green in the first picture there's still a green tint in the second picture he is in the shadows in the second picture it's darker that's that you don't have to do this crap for 12 years to know that something is darker because it's in the shadows.  Mordin is missing a horn yes but he's a brownish orange color most salarians are green or brown that is why he's recognizable.  At what point did I ever say anything about green blue and brown?  I said the first picture was bluer and the second one was darker that's it don't go and put words in my mouth and spew out your credentials as if you actually know what you're talking about.  You said the appearances were important because there was a character creator and art designers, that doesn't change the fact that you can still change your character's appearance, as for the other characters most are based on the VA or they're just slight variations on all the other characters of that species, it's obviously not that big of a deal. And yes at this point you're being a patronizing little ******, stfu with your "problem on your end" crap no duh I know the characters still react to shepard the same you were the one who brought up the character creator. 

[nobunagatron]

N7Raider wrote...

nobunagatron wrote...

N7Raider wrote...

nobunagatron wrote...

N7Raider wrote...

1. isn't the salarian in the first picture the salarian bartender from the ME1 E3 demo
2. assuming those pictures are of kirahe the first picture had the bright blue lighting and the second had the dark lighting tones will change
3. once again the level of nitpicking here is astounding pointing out a continuity error fine, but you're acting like this is a plot hole that would equal the quarians and the geth becoming best friends for no reason. You're whole argument about the way things look being important is complete crap, if that were the case than how come Shepard can be an albino in ME1 and a black guy in ME2?

1. Nope, its Kirrahe, just a smaller version of this :

2. If you really think the difference between pics 1 and 2 is anywhere near as drastic as 1or 2 compared to 3 or 4,  then your perception of color is quite a bit off ( AND I'M NOT INSULTING YOU, maybe you monitor is a little old or you percieve colors differently)

and 3 I will address in two parts 
3a. It is nowhere near as big an issue as your geth/quarian scenario, In no way are the two comparable, and in no part of ANY of my comments have I compared it to anything as fundamentally as important as the Geth/Quarian war; you are extremely disingenuous to imply otherwise. I have compared it to changing the skin color of Aria, Kolyat, Jacob, and Ms. al-Jilani AFTER having said character appear a different way in the first place.

3b. My "crap" agrument about visual apperance is completely important, relevent, and factual. Video Games are an interactive medium far more reliant on visual imagery than you seem to understand. Games like Okami, El Shaddai, Super Paper Mario, and Borderlands stand out from other games almost solely because of their unique art style and the appearance of their characters and enviroments. Shepard can change appearance because Bioware thinks it is important for you to customize him/her to become unique and ultimately "your Shepard", and because from ME 1 to ME2 Shepard did, suffured ridicoulous damage down to a cellular level, and was REBUILT. ( also note that ingame, you were treated as if you had always looked however your Shepard did in ME2, how the hell else would the VS or Anderson or anyone else recognize Shepard ??) 

If you design a character to look a certain way, then obviously you did it for a reason and if your going to change a characters appeareance for any reason, ESPECIALLY to the point where some one who has played ME 1 ( where you first met Kirrahe) dozens of times can't recognize  them when they see them, then as a developer you should at the very least have a reason and hopefully share that reason with the fanbase.

Its NOT a gamebreaking issue, I will STILL buy the CE, but yes I personally think character consistency both visually and attitudewise needs to either be consistent or have a reason behind the change.

the colors are that different the first one is brighter blue the second one is more black you're only showing kirahe in the shadows, the game has a different color palette, different engine it has more of a sunset color that's that.  I am using a 6 month old mac it's not my computer.
The whole thing with Shepard looking different in ME2, the goal of the lazarus project was to bring shepard back exactly like he was.  You can still change your appearance for no reason so your argument is crap.
Holy crap video games are a visual medium?!?  I thought I was reading a very descriptive book!  Don't patronize me dude I know they use visuals, you know what else uses visuals movies and they frankly don't seem to give a crap when they recast actors.  
As for the fact that you can't recognize him, so?  The only recognizable salarian is Mordin and that's only cause he's a lot lighter than the others.  

Kirrahe was recognizable until they changed him from green to brown, and Mordin is recognizable because he's missing a horn, he's actually the only Salarian in all 3 games to missing one.

If you really think that green is as different from blue as it is from brown, then you need to take a color theory class or look at an color wheel or even read a book about color pecterm because you are factually wrong.

Its not an issue of recasting, its an issue of a specific character being the wrong color. James Bond is recast every few years, what they don't do is just change Bond's color from a shade of Tan to a shade of Gray, which is essentially what they did with Kirrahe.

I'm not patronizing you, you said the way things look isn't important, I told you why it is and gave you specific examples why.

Changing an established characters visual appearance, ESPECIALLY something as basic as skin color, is a big deal and is jarring to those familiar with the preexisting character, I'm pretty sure you'd be a bit perpelxed if someone you knew suddenly looked different.

Read this next part slowly because you completely missed the point when I first said it:

Yes, you can change Shepards appearance from game to game, BUT you are treated as if you ALWAYS had the most recent appearance. That means that to every character you interact with , your ME 2 shepard looks JUST LIKE your ME 1 Shepard, only you ( the player) notice the difference, with the possible exemption of facial scarring.
And the reason thats so is because THE LAZARUS PROJECT REBUILT YOU EXACTLY LIKE SHEPARD WAS IN ME1.  If you cant understand these very basic facts, then the problem is on your end not mine.

I happen to know what I'm talking about, I've been doing lighting design, costume design, stage design, sound design AND make up,  for both theatre and film , FOR 12 YEARS.

Its a small detail over all, but I'm a detail person so it actually matters to me.

ok at this point this is turning into a joke he's green in the first picture there's still a green tint in the second picture he is in the shadows in the second picture it's darker that's that you don't have to do this crap for 12 years to know that something is darker because it's in the shadows.  Mordin is missing a horn yes but he's a brownish orange color most salarians are green or brown that is why he's recognizable.  At what point did I ever say anything about green blue and brown?  I said the first picture was bluer and the second one was darker that's it don't go and put words in my mouth and spew out your credentials as if you actually know what you're talking about.  You said the appearances were important because there was a character creator and art designers, that doesn't change the fact that you can still change your character's appearance, as for the other characters most are based on the VA or they're just slight variations on all the other characters of that species, it's obviously not that big of a deal. And yes at this point you're being a patronizing little ******, stfu with your "problem on your end" crap no duh I know the characters still react to shepard the same you were the one who brought up the character creator. 

Want some cheese with that whine ? 

Shadows don't change the color green into the color brown.

And if you can't handle a civil discussion on the merits of changing an established character's appearance, then thats just another problem on your end . Some people like talking about the small details in a game.

EDIT: and my issue is the difference between the 2 pairs of pictures,  the difference between me1 and me 3

Modifié par nobunagatron, 15 février 2012 - 01:07 .

[super4star]

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Modifié par super4star, 15 février 2012 - 04:40 .

[nobunagatron]

super4star wrote...

http://www.flash-scr...ktop,38561.html

Yep, good  ole  ME1 Kirrahe

[Chun Hei]

OMG! CLEARLY THIS IS EVEN MORE PROOF THAT EA IS EVIL COMPANY AND THAT BIOWARE NO LONGER CARES ABOUT THE FANS! ORIGIN IS RESPONSIBLE AND IS MESSING WITH MY GRAPHIC CARD!

[KingSnake661]

I'm not sure i'm on board with the "aging" argument. It's totally possible and valid, but, it's also pure speculation, based on nothing i recall reading. I just think it was an oversite.

[nobunagatron]

Chun Hei wrote...

OMG! CLEARLY THIS IS EVEN MORE PROOF THAT EA IS EVIL COMPANY AND THAT BIOWARE NO LONGER CARES ABOUT THE FANS! ORIGIN IS RESPONSIBLE AND IS MESSING WITH MY GRAPHIC CARD!

I hope you're being sarcastic