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Why was Captain/ Major Kirrahe's skin color changed ?


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#76
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Because these days in games things can't be bright. They have to be gritty, dark and washed out.

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Terror_K wrote...

Because these days in games things can't be bright. They have to be gritty, dark and washed out.


That is a very disappointing trend...

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nobunagatron wrote...

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OMG! CLEARLY THIS IS EVEN MORE PROOF THAT EA IS EVIL COMPANY AND THAT BIOWARE NO LONGER CARES ABOUT THE FANS! ORIGIN IS RESPONSIBLE AND IS MESSING WITH MY GRAPHIC CARD!


I hope you're being sarcastic


I was. It has been at least five minutes since I have seen someone post a similar comment and the BSN just has not been the same since.

Maybe the skin color change is due to the lack of a "film grain" feature?

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nobunagatron wrote...

Terror_K wrote...

Because these days in games things can't be bright. They have to be gritty, dark and washed out.


That is a very disappointing trend...

i think the trend of making microscopic letters in moder video games is more disappointing but that's another story

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Chun Hei wrote...

nobunagatron wrote...

Chun Hei wrote...

OMG! CLEARLY THIS IS EVEN MORE PROOF THAT EA IS EVIL COMPANY AND THAT BIOWARE NO LONGER CARES ABOUT THE FANS! ORIGIN IS RESPONSIBLE AND IS MESSING WITH MY GRAPHIC CARD!


I hope you're being sarcastic


I was. It has been at least five minutes since I have seen someone post a similar comment and the BSN just has not been the same since.

Maybe the skin color change is due to the lack of a "film grain" feature?


Some people really are spazzing out on the boards, its weird.

I wouldn't think that the lack of film grain would so drastically affect coloring, but its removal has caused me to notice other flaws/technical limitations in human npc facial features. The human women in mass effect all seem to suffer from this weird soft matte facial look that resembles caked on makeup, the aliens for the most part look great. The only human I really think looks great is the male Shepard, who for better or worse is the marketing poster boy for Mass Effect, and Bioware pays extra attention to making sure he looks good.

EDIT: playing ME1 without the film grain is pretty much playing an unpolished game, you see every little mistake that happens.

Modifié par nobunagatron, 15 février 2012 - 05:25 .


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ediskrad327 wrote...

nobunagatron wrote...

Terror_K wrote...

Because these days in games things can't be bright. They have to be gritty, dark and washed out.


That is a very disappointing trend...

i think the trend of making microscopic letters in moder video games is more disappointing but that's another story


That is a very big issue that has very specific cause: its not properly formatted for an SD tv screen, they design it to look good in HD. I could barely make out the ME2 codex and then I bought a new tv and everything looked great.

Bioware actually took the time to comment on it when ME2 first came out, and then they took the time to basically tell us to tough up and buy new TVs:bandit: 

Modifié par nobunagatron, 15 février 2012 - 05:20 .


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On a side note: the new trailer for binary domain on IGN had a fantastic 15 second ad for ME3 featuring CGI I that assume is from the trailer that is supposed to be revealed at the end of this weeks Walking Dead episode ( Sunday) !

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He looked better in Mass Effect 1, but I don't mind the change. What I do mind, however, is that he just popped up, advertised a gun, and disappeared. Seeing him successfully lead a team of Salarians against one of the Cerberus squads would have been more satisfying. Of course, he's a minor character so I'm just glad that he was acknowledged.

As for Kirrahe's new colors... I don't know why the artists changed him. It's peculiar, and although he looked better before, I don't mind that he's different. At least they kept his "beard" scales!

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DiosMios wrote...

He looked better in Mass Effect 1, but I don't mind the change. What I do mind, however, is that he just popped up, advertised a gun, and disappeared. Seeing him successfully lead a team of Salarians against one of the Cerberus squads would have been more satisfying. Of course, he's a minor character so I'm just glad that he was acknowledged.

As for Kirrahe's new colors... I don't know why the artists changed him. It's peculiar, and although he looked better before, I don't mind that he's different. At least they kept his "beard" scales!


I do mind the change, but I agree that being a non essential character just having him in there was nice. I actually  went out of my way in all of my ME1 playthroughs to make sure he didn't die, so the fact that I couldn't tell who he was just by looking at him is why this color change bothers me enough to make a thread about it.

If Bioware changed him because Salarians get darker as they age, or he became a burn victim between ME 1 and ME3, then while I still wouldn't like the change I could accept it as a sacrifice in the name of character evolution.

If, however, they changed him because they didn't bother to look at the ME1 art assets and character models to make sure the two Kirrahe versions matched ( or they just cut corners and played copy & paste the Salarian ), then I think we have a quality control issue that may indicate ME3 was rushed  or Bioware didn't devote the attention to it that the capstone of a wonderful trilogy should warrant. He was an established character so I would hope the artists would have a reason to change him ( or any other character).

Modifié par nobunagatron, 15 février 2012 - 09:45 .


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His face is darker because his face was caked with all the Cerberus soldiers' blood he killed off camera.

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Remember when Shiala went from purple to green? Remember how they explained it in the FULL game? Remember this is a demo, and not all information is known as of right this second?

Seriously, people need to stop.

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I think they forgot

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Chun Hei wrote...

His face is darker because his face was caked with all the Cerberus soldiers' blood he killed off camera.


That'd be pretty cool actually, like the red mask from killing my foes in Dragon Age Origins

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Saints_ wrote...

Remember when Shiala went from purple to green? Remember how they explained it in the FULL game? Remember this is a demo, and not all information is known as of right this second?

Seriously, people need to stop.


Are you suggesting Kirrahe was at one point inside a brown Thorian creature ?

Seriously, people need to stop ****ing whenever customers ask why a certain change was made in a game they like to play.

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Am I a racist when they all looked the same to me :( . The first Salarian that came up to us, I was like:" Yeah, Mordin :D ".

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Gabey5 wrote...

I think they forgot


Honestly, that is probably exactly what happened, a completely avoidable mistake that shouldn't have occurred.

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nobunagatron wrote...

Saints_ wrote...

Remember when Shiala went from purple to green? Remember how they explained it in the FULL game? Remember this is a demo, and not all information is known as of right this second?

Seriously, people need to stop.


Are you suggesting Kirrahe was at one point inside a brown Thorian creature ?

Seriously, people need to stop ****ing whenever customers ask why a certain change was made in a game they like to play.


Why would you gather I'm suggesting anything? I said what I said, wait until full game to see if they specify details instead of whining like a ****.

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Lexa_ wrote...

Am I a racist when they all looked the same to me :( . The first Salarian that came up to us, I was like:" Yeah, Mordin :D ".


Racist no, maybe a bit of a Speciest ;)

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Saints_ wrote...

nobunagatron wrote...

Saints_ wrote...

Remember when Shiala went from purple to green? Remember how they explained it in the FULL game? Remember this is a demo, and not all information is known as of right this second?

Seriously, people need to stop.


Are you suggesting Kirrahe was at one point inside a brown Thorian creature ?

Seriously, people need to stop ****ing whenever customers ask why a certain change was made in a game they like to play.


Why would you gather I'm suggesting anything? I said what I said, wait until full game to see if they specify details instead of whining like a ****.


Why does me asking a question bother you so much ? Something happened, I'd like to know why, Bioware provided a forum for people to ask questions and state opinions so I posted a topic. In the real world, people ask questions
Deal with it

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 regardless of colour, I was like how the hell does shepard know that's him? All salarians look the same!! :P

#96
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I miss his pretty color. Also, why does FemShep call him Kirra-HEY instead of Kirra-HEE?

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 regardless of colour, I was like how the hell does shepard know that's him? All salarians look the same!! :P


Are you really asking this? Because of the subtitles of course :P .

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Lexa_ wrote...

Commodore Q wrote...

 regardless of colour, I was like how the hell does shepard know that's him? All salarians look the same!! :P


Are you really asking this? Because of the subtitles of course :P .


Haha so true, I wouldn't have recognised half the people in ME2 if their names weren't above their heads :P Especially Liara, my shep: 'Oh hey Liara!?!? Have you been using biotics to touch things up? I heard that commercial while making my way here' ^_^

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This can be fixed from a patch, quit whining.

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He's getting old and when Salarians get old their skin changes colors and they become "temperamental".