Han Shot First wrote...
Dean_the_Young wrote...
Han Shot First wrote...
As I posted in the Liara thread, anyone who wonders how it is that those two can be friends, need only refer to Henry V:
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered-
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother
Combat has a way of forging bonds that are as tight as family. Considering all they've been through together, Wrex talking to Liara like she's his little sister is a nice touch of realism. It also isn't out of character for Wrex, as that is totally in line with what we saw of him in ME2. He has a similar reaction during his reunion with Shepard.
I really have to ask.
Is this something you've experienced, or just heard second-hand? Because I'm aware of a lot of units in which combat didn't cover personal animosities.
Soldiers are professionals, by and large, and a good part of the training and conditioning is about being able to work with people you don't like. But the 'we're all friendly comrades once we fight together' piece is pretty silly.
I'm a former Marine.
Is everyone close? Of course not. In a typical company you are talking about 200+ personalities and occasionally, some personalities clash. Or you might have an incompetent Staff NCO or Officer that is hated. But it is a fact that *in general* the bonds forged in combat are as tight as family. That, and Wrex and Liara never displayed any personal animosity towards the other in Mass Effect 1. So it is neither out of character or a retcon, and a nice touch on the part of the wrtiers.
I'll briefly sum up what is really going on with all of those who are complaing about this line of dialogue from Wrex:
"I hate Liara. Why doesn't Wrex also hate Liara? Why, Wrex...TELL ME WHY???!!!!"
They are failing to realize that what the player thinks or feels is not necessarily the same things that characters in the story think or feel, including Shepard. I'm not crazy about Jacob, but I'm not going to get butthurt if Garrus fist bumps him on the reunion.
^this. With the exception of an e6 that ****ed his men like a $5 hooker, everybody in my old squad became very tight with one another, far overshadowing whatever personal differences and petty disagreements we may have had at the time. I even came to blows with a one of them, but a couple years later, when we see each other we share a beer and laugh about it now. Are we all best friends? No. But theres a strong sense of comradery.
Wrex saying something like that to Liara isnt excessive or unrealistic for two people who went through heavy combat together. Whatever the player may think of liara, there's no reason Wrex wouldn't respect somebody who fought alongside him as part of Shepard's Krantt. Also, saying that to Liara instead of Garrus (who's obviously more competent and experianced, combat wise), while right in front of him turns it into a sublte, teasing insult. "i
suppose i can make room for you too, Garrus" confirms that.
Whats more out of character is Wrex losing patience, jumping out of the shuttle and slinging biotics around right away, and staring like a surprised idiot at the laser sights on his chest. Somebody who's not only survived, but thrived in the deadly cutthroat mercenary world for centuries has a lot more sense than that.
The "this isnt about strategy or tactics" line is the most out of character line in the entire series. Its also one of the dumbest lines I've ever heard. I can see Shep saying something more like " This isnt about battle lines or strategic objectives or acceptable losses, this is about surviving extermination." But he's talking about the attempted genocide of our species like its drunken bar fight.
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