ok lets stop beating round the bush.....
The next DA neeeds to continue where DAO ended ,no pre 200 or after years sideway story.The riddle of morrigan is still there and it must have a continueation(forgive any bad spelling)else it will become a very smelly cliffhanger..
Also scratch off DA2 as an mediocore achievment , i know its hard to admit but the peoples voice say so. Learn from it instead of denying it ,and drop a mega bomb with a future DAO2.And if EA puts pressure on tell em to shove it , trhe whole community will be behind you .
Bathesdas Skyrim should be your major challenge,bring somin equal at least
next dragon age ...............
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Posté 15 février 2012 - 01:46
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ill hope da3 will be a true sequel of dao.. and not another dumbed down game in order to statisfate the casual crowd
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Oh really? Well I was hoping since Bioware already tried to expand their market to the FPS genre that they might cater to the sports crowd next. Dragon Age: Madden 40 DA! The football teams could be racial with Dwarves, Dalish Elves, City Elves and Humans or you could go with factions like Templars, Mages and the Darkspawn. I would imagine the Darkspawn would likely get alot of flags for having "too many men on the field" and the mages would constantly be "off sides" since now they can teleport short distances. And of course Force Mages would likely be responsible for many face mask penalties.
Just kidding, I still love you Bioware, even if I think of you as that wacky/strange family member which I try to avoid making loud noises around and keep sharp objects out of the hands of.
Just kidding, I still love you Bioware, even if I think of you as that wacky/strange family member which I try to avoid making loud noises around and keep sharp objects out of the hands of.
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I never play DA2 and i don't know if i want to buy it after reading reviews, comments and spoilers about DA2 and watching on You Tube i feel no need to play DA2, so i basically know what DA2 is about there is no point to play DA2 in my opinion, so i want to wait DA 3.
i hope DA3 about the Blight, about Archdemon, about Grey Warden...it is okay if it is 200 years later or 200 years before story, Star Wars did that, it is fine if the story is good, i want an answer for what is blurry in DA;O, because in DA;O most infos are just interpretation of the third party, for example the history of Blight is just the Chantry version, the Chantry blame Tevinter Imperioum Mages, and so on...so, i want an absolute answer for everything, and not a cliff hanger ending.
The conflict between mages and the Templars should not overshadow the main story, that is about The Blight and the Grey Warden, it is okay for part of a quest but should not be the final quest or something bigger issue than the Blight
i hope DA3 about the Blight, about Archdemon, about Grey Warden...it is okay if it is 200 years later or 200 years before story, Star Wars did that, it is fine if the story is good, i want an answer for what is blurry in DA;O, because in DA;O most infos are just interpretation of the third party, for example the history of Blight is just the Chantry version, the Chantry blame Tevinter Imperioum Mages, and so on...so, i want an absolute answer for everything, and not a cliff hanger ending.
The conflict between mages and the Templars should not overshadow the main story, that is about The Blight and the Grey Warden, it is okay for part of a quest but should not be the final quest or something bigger issue than the Blight
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The Blight ISN'T an issue. That, along with the tale of the Grey Wardens, is done. The story of DA3 should be a continuation of DA2, because they need to write a story that makes sense. DA2 was basically Ostagar for DA:O, so it's like there being no Loghain or Blight after Ostagar in Origins.
Feed us the Mage-Templar War. Just do a good job of it. And yeah, tie up some DA:O loose ends.
Feed us the Mage-Templar War. Just do a good job of it. And yeah, tie up some DA:O loose ends.
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they did(sorta) and they will do that at some point, i mean this would be a trilogy if they decided to end it all ready, it will mostly be the last one that they do whenever that may be.cruelgretchen wrote...
ok lets stop beating round the bush.....
The next DA neeeds to continue where DAO ended
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ill hope da3 will be a true sequel of dao.. and not another dumbed down game in order to statisfate the casual crowd
sorry to break it to ya but its gonna be the Templar/Mage conflict
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Ryllen Laerth Kriel wrote...
Oh really? Well I was hoping since Bioware already tried to expand their market to the FPS genre that they might cater to the sports crowd next. Dragon Age: Madden 40 DA! The football teams could be racial with Dwarves, Dalish Elves, City Elves and Humans or you could go with factions like Templars, Mages and the Darkspawn. I would imagine the Darkspawn would likely get alot of flags for having "too many men on the field" and the mages would constantly be "off sides" since now they can teleport short distances. And of course Force Mages would likely be responsible for many face mask penalties.
Just kidding, I still love you Bioware, even if I think of you as that wacky/strange family member which I try to avoid making loud noises around and keep sharp objects out of the hands of.
Don't be ridiculous, multiple races is way to much to ask for! :happy:
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The Blight ISN'T an issue. That, along with the tale of the Grey Wardens, is done. The story of DA3 should be a continuation of DA2, because they need to write a story that makes sense. DA2 was basically Ostagar for DA:O, so it's like there being no Loghain or Blight after Ostagar in Origins.
Feed us the Mage-Templar War. Just do a good job of it. And yeah, tie up some DA:O loose ends.
If the Grey Warden and the Blight is not an issue, so what Dragon Age is all about exactly? We see the first Dragon Age cinematic about Grey Warden fighting darkspawn, a Warden with 3 companion fighting darkspawns and kill the High Dragon (asumed Archdemon), and then The Warden Call, and also stand alone Grey Warden fighting darkspawn....
It is all about Grey Warden, darkspawn, Archdemon and The Blight, that is the game is about, that is what Dragon Age Origin is about...., the game being propagated about Grey Warden vs Darkspawn...... so suddenly it is not an issue and then become "Mage vs Templar" game?
If it is just that, it makes no sense
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Nizaris1 wrote...
T3HB3N wrote...
The Blight ISN'T an issue. That, along with the tale of the Grey Wardens, is done. The story of DA3 should be a continuation of DA2, because they need to write a story that makes sense. DA2 was basically Ostagar for DA:O, so it's like there being no Loghain or Blight after Ostagar in Origins.
Feed us the Mage-Templar War. Just do a good job of it. And yeah, tie up some DA:O loose ends.
If the Grey Warden and the Blight is not an issue, so what Dragon Age is all about exactly? We see the first Dragon Age cinematic about Grey Warden fighting darkspawn, a Warden with 3 companion fighting darkspawns and kill the High Dragon (asumed Archdemon), and then The Warden Call, and also stand alone Grey Warden fighting darkspawn....
It is all about Grey Warden, darkspawn, Archdemon and The Blight, that is the game is about, that is what Dragon Age Origin is about...., the game being propagated about Grey Warden vs Darkspawn...... so suddenly it is not an issue and then become "Mage vs Templar" game?
If it is just that, it makes no sense
Dragon Age is not about a single character or just one story. It's about a century in the world of Thedas, called the Dragon Age. And, like in our real world, a century has a lot more stories to tell, than just one.
That said, I find it kind of annoying that I likely have to endure another game about templer vs. mages. I'm at a stage where I just can't hear the same arguments over and over again. So, my hope would be that they handle this conflict in a DA II expansion and come up with something new for DA III, but likely that won't happen.
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Monica83 wrote...
ill hope da3 will be a true sequel of dao.. and not another dumbed down game in order to statisfate the casual crowd
casual crowd????
its a fact that dao sold a lot more copies than da2...so taht means that the old school rpg crowd is the true fans of bioware and wahts made them ..so bioware thought that ther are many old school fans ..but they were wrong...
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Monica83 wrote...
ill hope da3 will be a true sequel of dao.. and not another dumbed down game in order to statisfate the casual crowd
casual crowd????
its a fact that dao sold a lot more copies than da2...so taht means that the old school rpg crowd is the true fans of bioware and wahts made them ..so with the dumb down da2 bioware thought that ther arnt !many old school fans ..but they were wrong...
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They tried to access a wider group of gamers, but never reached them. On top of that, they alienated a good number of DA:O fans with that step, including me.
The goal to reach a wider group, which leads to more sells, is definitly core to any company, but they failed in the execution.
But that is the past, lets hope for a terrific execution on DA III, although I'll be a lot more critical against everything that will be said. I made this fault once by preordering DA II based on the info spread around here, I definitly won't do it twice.
The goal to reach a wider group, which leads to more sells, is definitly core to any company, but they failed in the execution.
But that is the past, lets hope for a terrific execution on DA III, although I'll be a lot more critical against everything that will be said. I made this fault once by preordering DA II based on the info spread around here, I definitly won't do it twice.
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If it is not about Grey Warden and the Blight, and just about the world of Thedas in the age of Dragon, then the story line have lost its sense, in the first sequel everybody will assume the Dragon age have something to do with Archdemon being a dragon and going rampage, that is why it is the dragon age where the dragon have somewhat dominant, no matter just normal dragon or Archdemon-Dragon. Why Archdemon is a dragon is still a mystery up to now.
If the game is not about that, why not just named the game "The World of Thedas" or something...
Why not making a major plot where there is a fanatic Grey Warden grandmaster who feel people have forgot the role of Grey Warden, and so he/she want to create a Blight, creating/summoning Archdemon using mages or kidnap Morrigan child, or something, by doing that he/she want the people turn to Grey Warden and once more the Grey warden gain their significant, get rich and powerful, and playing politic....and so the PC will have to fight both the order and the Blight it self...that will be quite a feat...
The PC sooner or later find out about the betrayal, the order it self is an enemy, while the same time The Blight have begun suddenly, the order hunt him/her down and maintaining the Blight, and he/she have to find a way to put the grandmaster on trial, and convince everyone that the Blight is the Grey Warden scheme, and defeat the Blight.
why not making a plot like that and not just Mage vs Templar game?
If the game is not about that, why not just named the game "The World of Thedas" or something...
Why not making a major plot where there is a fanatic Grey Warden grandmaster who feel people have forgot the role of Grey Warden, and so he/she want to create a Blight, creating/summoning Archdemon using mages or kidnap Morrigan child, or something, by doing that he/she want the people turn to Grey Warden and once more the Grey warden gain their significant, get rich and powerful, and playing politic....and so the PC will have to fight both the order and the Blight it self...that will be quite a feat...
The PC sooner or later find out about the betrayal, the order it self is an enemy, while the same time The Blight have begun suddenly, the order hunt him/her down and maintaining the Blight, and he/she have to find a way to put the grandmaster on trial, and convince everyone that the Blight is the Grey Warden scheme, and defeat the Blight.
why not making a plot like that and not just Mage vs Templar game?
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The Blight ISN'T an issue. That, along with the tale of the Grey Wardens, is done. The story of DA3 should be a continuation of DA2, because they need to write a story that makes sense. DA2 was basically Ostagar for DA:O, so it's like there being no Loghain or Blight after Ostagar in Origins.
Feed us the Mage-Templar War. Just do a good job of it. And yeah, tie up some DA:O loose ends.
For me and how I did it, No it wasn't over for me as I was still breathing DLC included. Still think they should bring into the fold either the Warden or Hawke. As imports. Since it will be a new system knock them down to level 1. Because if I remember right A Warden not only defends against the blight he also saves people from their own ignorance. Like a guardian. The Mage Templar War is a prime example of it, plus the original darkspawn (tevinter magi that went to the black city) I think will play some hand in this.
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You cant just scratch off DA2. DA2 didn't bombed, just like many sequells wasn't as good as the first but still ok on its own. jumping back to the past doesnt sound like something a sequell shoud do, unless its simply to lay the groundwork for the next game, which is more of a job for an expansion ala awakening.
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Why not making a major plot where there is a fanatic Grey Warden grandmaster who feel people have forgot the role of Grey Warden, and so he/she want to create a Blight, creating/summoning Archdemon using mages or kidnap Morrigan child, or something, by doing that he/she want the people turn to Grey Warden and once more the Grey warden gain their significant, get rich and powerful, and playing politic....and so the PC will have to fight both the order and the Blight it self...that will be quite a feat...
The PC sooner or later find out about the betrayal, the order it self is an enemy, while the same time The Blight have begun suddenly, the order hunt him/her down and maintaining the Blight, and he/she have to find a way to put the grandmaster on trial, and convince everyone that the Blight is the Grey Warden scheme, and defeat the Blight.
From my suggestion up there, they can make a plot twist, the PC can either support the grandmaster, doing his/her bidding and protect the order, then defeat the Blight by means completing the set up, or destroy the grandmaster, destroy the order and defeat the Blight
It doesn't need to be exactly like DA:O in which have to gather all races/group of people in the end, to defeat a Blight can be done in a suicide mission of killing Archdemon in it's lair or something.
Maybe those elite darkspawns are actually Grey Wardens themselves who being consumed by the taint. The Grey Wardens always keep secret from everybody right?Even to their own member. The junior member will always don't know about things until it is too late, Duncan, Alistair and Riordan done that. So, maybe the whole Blight thing is just a mistake from the first ever person who drink the darkspawn blood in magic ritual or something but the Chantry blame Tevinter Mages and create their own version. (Alistair did say that they only know about darkspawn is they come out from the ground)
I don't see why the Blight and the Grey Warden is not an issue anymore.
Solmanian...
You cant just scratch off DA2. DA2 didn't bombed, just like many sequells wasn't as good as the first but still ok on its own. jumping back to the past doesnt sound like something a sequell shoud do, unless its simply to lay the groundwork for the next game, which is more of a job for an expansion ala awakening.
As far as i see, DA2 is not much of a sequel for DA:O, and i feel Awakening should be in DA2 as a major plot, but they release Awakening first...
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adi4444 wrote...
Monica83 wrote...
ill hope da3 will be a true sequel of dao.. and not another dumbed down game in order to statisfate the casual crowd
casual crowd????
its a fact that dao sold a lot more copies than da2...so taht means that the old school rpg crowd is the true fans of bioware
SO fasn of DA2 aren't true fans...... right
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Wardens tale is done. Split. Zip. That story is gone. Theres no need to have a sequel to the game because what happens to the people. such as I, if we killed Morrigan? No point in a second game.
The Warden defeated the Blight either way, that was the objective to that game. Again, no point into a sequel of DA:O. DA3 needs to follow with the Mage/Templar/Chantry plight. c:
The Warden defeated the Blight either way, that was the objective to that game. Again, no point into a sequel of DA:O. DA3 needs to follow with the Mage/Templar/Chantry plight. c:
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The Mage/Templar fight better be a small stepping stone to a larger story. If its mages versus Chantry the entire time with nothing else going on, its going to be a bust of a game.
It needs to start out Mage/Templar, then have the Qunari see the divided nations and attack, or have the Architect's actions result in another Blight (this could happen even if he is dead), or have the dangers Morrigan warned about in Witch Hunt come to fruition or Tevinter attempt to break away from the Chantry and restart the old ways of returning to the Black City or Sandal's prophecies coming true or the elven gods trying to break free of being imprisoned and seeking retribution against the shemlen oppressors, or have more of the original Magisters who entered the Black City (like Corpheus) make a return... or one of the ninety other plot lines that are more interesting than just "evil Templars vs. evil mages", like what we saw in DA2.
Have a REAL story for the game. If you have to use the Mage/Templar shtick (YET AGAIN, we saw it in DAO, DA2 and probably again in DA3) then PLEASE just have it be leading into another over arching story that explores one of the dozens of better plot lines.
It needs to start out Mage/Templar, then have the Qunari see the divided nations and attack, or have the Architect's actions result in another Blight (this could happen even if he is dead), or have the dangers Morrigan warned about in Witch Hunt come to fruition or Tevinter attempt to break away from the Chantry and restart the old ways of returning to the Black City or Sandal's prophecies coming true or the elven gods trying to break free of being imprisoned and seeking retribution against the shemlen oppressors, or have more of the original Magisters who entered the Black City (like Corpheus) make a return... or one of the ninety other plot lines that are more interesting than just "evil Templars vs. evil mages", like what we saw in DA2.
Have a REAL story for the game. If you have to use the Mage/Templar shtick (YET AGAIN, we saw it in DAO, DA2 and probably again in DA3) then PLEASE just have it be leading into another over arching story that explores one of the dozens of better plot lines.
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Morroian wrote...
adi4444 wrote...
Monica83 wrote...
ill hope da3 will be a true sequel of dao.. and not another dumbed down game in order to statisfate the casual crowd
casual crowd????
its a fact that dao sold a lot more copies than da2...so taht means that the old school rpg crowd is the true fans of bioware
SO fasn of DA2 aren't true fans...... right
i would think people who appreciate Bioware's work, are true fans of Bioware
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adi4444 wrote...
Monica83 wrote...
ill hope da3 will be a true sequel of dao.. and not another dumbed down game in order to statisfate the casual crowd
casual crowd????
its a fact that dao sold a lot more copies than da2...so taht means that the old school rpg crowd is the true fans of bioware and wahts made them ..so bioware thought that ther are many old school fans ..but they were wrong...
I agree but don't forget bioware is a division of Ea now... And Ea tends tu dumb down games in order to have the large number of fan possible... The problem is.. In this case you can't statisfate all.. There are people like me that loves the old style rpg manner like Baldur's gate or Dragon age 2... Other likes more action oriented rpg and consider rpg just videogames...
In my case.. For me RPG are not only videogame for ma are a passion.. For other are just videogames like others...
Now bioware wan't statisfate both fan.. But in the end if you try and try compromises you will end with another mediocre meh title... I just wish bioware take a clear decision...
I don't say dragon age 2 fan are not true fan i just say they are fan of a different kind of Rpg's.. Only this..
The true mistake if of bioware.. because the company now want statisfate both fans... But is impossible so they have to take a decision at some point...
And as i mentioned before there are people that consider RPG just videogames.. And other like me that consider them a form of art and also a passion..
When i mean like DAO i don't mean continue the warden story..
I mean a nice story...
A deep dialogue system....
A lot of content...
Choice that matter....
Places maded with care...
Animation that don't remind me Dinasty warrior....
Race Selection..
Not static classes....
More quest variety....
More interesting companion...
That's what i mean with DAO sequel.. Not continue the warden story
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i think da3 should be like dao with da2 combat and it would also be cool if your hawke or warden some how made it in to the game hopeffully the warden didnt like having to be human
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[quote]Monica83 wrote...
[quote]adi4444 wrote...
[quote]Monica83 wrote...
ill hope da3 will be a true sequel of dao.. and not another dumbed down game in order to statisfate the casual crowd[/quote]
casual crowd????
its a fact that dao sold a lot more copies than da2...so taht means that the old school rpg crowd is the true fans of bioware and wahts made them ..so bioware thought that ther are many old school fans ..but they were wrong...
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I agree but don't forget bioware is a division of Ea now... And Ea tends t0 dumb down games in order to have the large number of fan possible... The problem is.. In this case you can't statisfate all.. There are people like me that loves the old style rpg manner like Baldur's gate or Dragon age origins... Other likes more action oriented rpg and consider rpg just videogames...
In my case.. For me RPG are not only videogame for ma are a passion.. For other are just videogames like others...
Now bioware wan't statisfate both fan.. But in the end if you try and try compromises you will end with another mediocre meh title... I just wish bioware take a clear decision...
I don't say dragon age 2 fan are not true fan i just say they are fan of a different kind of Rpg's.. Only this..
The true mistake if of bioware.. because the company now want statisfate both fans... But is impossible so they have to take a decision at some point...
And as i mentioned before there are people that consider RPG just videogames.. And other like me that consider them a form of art and also a passion..
When i mean like DAO i don't mean continue the warden story..
I mean a nice story...
A deep dialogue system....
A lot of content...
Choice that matter....
Places maded with care...
Animation that don't remind me Dinasty warrior....
Race Selection..
Not static classes....
More quest variety....
More interesting companion...
A less cartoony design and a more medieval gritty look... ((just look the donke... hem elves in dragon age 2 are just ridicolus))
That's what i mean with DAO sequel.. Not continue the warden story
[quote]adi4444 wrote...
[quote]Monica83 wrote...
ill hope da3 will be a true sequel of dao.. and not another dumbed down game in order to statisfate the casual crowd[/quote]
casual crowd????
its a fact that dao sold a lot more copies than da2...so taht means that the old school rpg crowd is the true fans of bioware and wahts made them ..so bioware thought that ther are many old school fans ..but they were wrong...
[/quote]
I agree but don't forget bioware is a division of Ea now... And Ea tends t0 dumb down games in order to have the large number of fan possible... The problem is.. In this case you can't statisfate all.. There are people like me that loves the old style rpg manner like Baldur's gate or Dragon age origins... Other likes more action oriented rpg and consider rpg just videogames...
In my case.. For me RPG are not only videogame for ma are a passion.. For other are just videogames like others...
Now bioware wan't statisfate both fan.. But in the end if you try and try compromises you will end with another mediocre meh title... I just wish bioware take a clear decision...
I don't say dragon age 2 fan are not true fan i just say they are fan of a different kind of Rpg's.. Only this..
The true mistake if of bioware.. because the company now want statisfate both fans... But is impossible so they have to take a decision at some point...
And as i mentioned before there are people that consider RPG just videogames.. And other like me that consider them a form of art and also a passion..
When i mean like DAO i don't mean continue the warden story..
I mean a nice story...
A deep dialogue system....
A lot of content...
Choice that matter....
Places maded with care...
Animation that don't remind me Dinasty warrior....
Race Selection..
Not static classes....
More quest variety....
More interesting companion...
A less cartoony design and a more medieval gritty look... ((just look the donke... hem elves in dragon age 2 are just ridicolus))
That's what i mean with DAO sequel.. Not continue the warden story
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I remember reading somewhere that said Dragon Age 3 will be revolving around the mage/templar conflict but that it won't necessarily be the main threat. (or something like that) Personally I really liked the whole mage templar conflict, it was unique instead of just going for the cliche
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this: +graphics + animated battlemovements arent improvements to rpgs...theyre extras.
As soon as BW realizes that the community isnt just a bunch of fanboys praising stuff an expirienced modder could achieve within 2 weeks, and taking critique serious instead of labeling it "only constructive criticism wanted (BW point of view)" and listens carefully they m8 have a chance
edit:the edit
As soon as BW realizes that the community isnt just a bunch of fanboys praising stuff an expirienced modder could achieve within 2 weeks, and taking critique serious instead of labeling it "only constructive criticism wanted (BW point of view)" and listens carefully they m8 have a chance
edit:the edit
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