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[Virus43]

Has anyone unlocked one yet? Given it a try? I tell you what they're completely broken.

I was playing as a human adept a lot, until I got it, so my level was pretty high for the class. So when I unlocked it I decided to max out throw first and foremost because it looked cool (before the ME3 demo I hadn't ever really touched biotics, so I was just experimenting and stuff), and as usual I only used the Phalanx since that gun can solve all problems!

With only a heavy pistol, the Asari's cooldown for Throw is near instantaneous. I was carrying my team with three times the score of the second-best player because of how I could just sit back and mash the right bumper for easy kills/knockdowns on any enemy. Heck, I can even use biotic combos to handle Atlas mechs pretty easily.

I honestly think Bioware needs to take a look at this, as fun as it is, because this class can pretty much clear the field alone with just throw.

Just saying. Not bragging, trying to bring a potentially game-breaking loadout to their attention.

Love the multiplayer though! I know what I'll be doing until launch!

[Simocrates]

Good to hear you find this a problem. I agree when classes aren't balanced, over powered or not it really ruins the long term fun for a game.

[Genshie]

So you want them to fix something that is also in the single player? What? Cause I felt like Vegeta spamming Ki blast during the single player as an adept. No, I don't want them to do that.

[HolyAvenger]

^ I think asari have racial bonus to biotics so SP won't be like that.

[Virus43]

Genshie wrote...

So you want them to fix something that is also in the single player? What? Cause I felt like Vegeta spamming Ki blast during the single player as an adept. No, I don't want them to do that.

Virus43 wrote...

(before the ME3 demo I hadn't ever really touched biotics, so I was just experimenting and stuff)

I wasn't aware, I played an infiltrator in the single-player after all. :-/

[Genshie]

Zanza86 wrote...

Good to hear you find this a problem. I agree when classes aren't balanced, over powered or not it really ruins the long term fun for a game.

Whats the problem? You obviously won't be able to do that great in all the wave modes against all the enemies using this tattic. This is a demo and we are currently only fighting one type of enemy. Wait till the full game comes out and then complain about it.

[Genshie]

HolyAvenger wrote...

^ I think asari have racial bonus to biotics so SP won't be like that.

No it is like that. On the Earth demo when you only have one gun then two I was spamming like mad on Insanity. It is the weight and how many guns you are currently holding which you yourself will be able to adjust before going out on each mission.

I wasn't doing the same thing on second level because Shepard was carrying double the amount of weapons at the time so more weight = longer cool downs.

So you can essentially have an spam happeh Vanguard/Adept in both single and multi. Granted on certain enemy types I wouldn't be spamming certain abilities on them.

Modifié par Genshie, 15 février 2012 - 03:40 .

[Virus43]

Genshie wrote...

Zanza86 wrote...

Good to hear you find this a problem. I agree when classes aren't balanced, over powered or not it really ruins the long term fun for a game.

Whats the problem? You obviously won't be able to do that great in all the wave modes against all the enemies using this tattic. This is a demo and we are currently only fighting one type of enemy. Wait till the full game comes out and then complain about it.

Well, when throw doesn't work on an enemy, I just apply more throw. It pretty much nullified every threat. Phantoms to Turrets to Centurions.

I'm not trying to complain, furthermore, I'm just saying, from what I've seen so far, that this is a pretty broken tactic.

[EsterCloat]

Maybe there should be a minimum cooldown time for stuff so it doesn't reach into milliseconds. Just a thought to prevent near constant spamming due to the cooldown bonuses.

[xKINGOFMADNESSx]

this is why we cant have nice things...

Guys, its just a demo and Genshie is right. Think about it, you have to put points in to extend the range, and if your an adept you start out with some low cal. weapons. Not to say that the pistols are a lesser weapon, but compared to the long range power of a sniper rifle or velocity of an assault rifle, there in lies the balance. Plus your forgetting that this isnt PvP its PvE so when you ask them to Nerf something your hurting your own team. Why not just ask for optional harder enemies? Then the people who like it can keep it and those who don't wont need to complain about it.

[colata]

Asari is pretty weak if without biotic power.

There is soldier, vanguard which has good armor/ health/ range attack.

Asari has weak basic damage/ can only survive with throw/ stagger.
Other biotic attacks of adept asari has long enough cooldown time, so it's pretty much useless when congronted with multiple hostiles or fantom.

Don't really think it's overpowered,
Actually it's the only useful biotic for general asari adept.

if you play asari adept by yourself, it's still hard to survive more than 4 waves even in bronze diffficulties.

Just maybe nerfing damage of throw a little, lengthening cooldown for throw pretty much rob asari of any meaninngful, useful skill.

Modifié par colata, 16 février 2012 - 04:11 .

[Reaver102]

Having played both I found that the infiltrator if played and well equipped will clear a field faster then adept will, but he adept has way more tools at its disposal.

[ace1221]

I got an Asari adept in my starter pack, and until I did I wasn't planning to play adept at all.
Let me tell you something: Asari adept are cray cray. Stasis combined with warp and a pistol with scope? Unbeatable...

[AdmiralCheez]

OP, have you tried upping the difficulty?

[Draconis6666]

colata wrote...

Asari is pretty weak if without biotic power.

There is soldier, vanguard which has good armor/ health/ range attack.

Asari has weak basic damage/ can only survive with throw/ stagger.
Other biotic attacks of adept asari has long enough cooldown time, so it's pretty much useless when congronted with multiple hostiles or fantom.

Don't really think it's overpowered,
Actually it's the only useful biotic for general asari adept.

if you play asari adept by yourself, it's still hard to survive more than 4 waves even in bronze diffficulties.

Just maybe nerfing damage of throw a little, lengthening cooldown for throw pretty much rob asari of any meaninngful, useful skill.

Useless vs phantoms? wtf are you talking about They have Stasis Field which is like the easiest way in the entire game to kill phantoms. I can solo bronze all the way to extraction as an Asari Adept, you just have to play it differently than most classes. You cant sit in cover with it you have to kite things around lure big groups to chokepoint where you can rely on biotic explosions. But the fact that you think throw is their only uselful skill just makes me think you havent even looked at them or played one... because Stasis field is one of the most powerful skills in the game, it works on everything except turrets and the Atlas, it makes Guardians drop their shield, it makes phantoms and nemesis easy kills, and with the 30% chance for no cooldown its great for biotic explosions.

[colata]

Misunderstanding, mistake fantom with atlas.

Longer cooltime for stasis, warp, short cooltime for throw is well balanced one I think.

Didn't exploit bait enemies to chokepoint, maybe game should have better A.I. like not walking into obvious effing death trap.

Maybe nerfing damage output would be good, maybe bw should come up with more balanced biotic power effect in game, not making them useless.

Modifié par colata, 16 février 2012 - 05:57 .

[neubourn]

Its fine the way it is. To get that recharge time, you basically are only carrying a pistol. And on mine, i chose to max out my biotics, but it cost me in my Fitness skill tree, so i am fairly weak.

In RPG terms...this is called the "Glass cannon" and is typically the Mage type character. Which is what a Biotic is. Now, if they had these powers AND ridiculous health/shields (like a Krogan), then yes...it would be Overpowered.

[Gamepro03]

After playing the asari adept today, a lot, I realized that it indeed does have it easier, but only with a good team. It's a sniper class, it's meant to do a ton of damage and heavy support, while being very weak. Sure, the character can use stasis if an enemy gets too close, but in general I feel it can get caught in a bad situation much more often than other characters. There's a balance here with damage versus health.

I also feel that this demo doesn't show enough of the multiplayer to prove that the asari adept is overpowered, and that the real multiplayer will prove a larger challenge.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Erhm, people actually use Throw with their asari adepts?

Really?

[neubourn]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Erhm, people actually use Throw with their asari adepts?

Really?

yep. It does biotic damage as well as impact damage, it knocks enemies off their feet...making them more vulnerable. A few spots on the Noveria map (near rails, the landing pad), you can actually knock an enemy off the map for an instant kill. You can use it in biotic explosions. You can use it in conjunction with someone who uses Lift. 

You'd be surprised how useful Throw is. 

Modifié par neubourn, 16 février 2012 - 06:50 .

[KaskaMatejX]

Asari Adept...

I know now why the call Asari Commandos one of the most elite fighting units in all of Galaxy!
Troubles with Phantom? Stasis, Warp and Throw, and it's dead.
Atlas? Warp and Throw for Biotic Explosions and you get awesome collaterals with it.
Get yourself the M-6 Heavy pistol with Zoom and Bigger caliber, you 3 shot a Centurion or Engineer in Stasis.

I did one round with nothing but Biotic kills, got 50 of them on Silver.
They are just awesome!

[goofyomnivore]

Salarian Infiltrator is the best kit imo