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[Kuarinokuto]

Jestina wrote...

Considering the price of consoles these days, you are better off just buying a full computer instead.

Are you dumb:blink: An Xbox costs about 1998 NOK, and a useful gaming PC costs 10k NOK and upward

[tch2296]

Jestina wrote...

Some of these people are funny. Just be quiet and swallow the poo Bioware feeds you...which might be fine for you if your parents paid for the product. For those of us that pull money out of our own account for it though, we expect high quality, not something that resembles an indie game.

No, I think we are just suggesting to wait until the game is released, and not to nitpick over the smallest, silliest details. And anyone that can afford to purchase the latest PC gaming hardware probably isn't starving. I certainly bought the game with my own hard-earned money, but I think it is stupid to make judgements based on such a small fragment of the game, and to make such sweeping judgements based upon graphical issues in a game that is story-based.

And LOL this from the person that thinks it's less expensive to buy a gaming computer than a console? Sorry, but it doesn't seem like you are very financially savvy yourself!

Modifié par tch2296, 15 février 2012 - 07:39 .

[panamakira]

And yes everyday I come to this forums I constantly read about people complaining about something. And I use my paycheck to buy these games too but still people reap apart something as incomplete as a demo. LOL I get the feeling that people truly fear change in this forums. Also Mass Effect unlike Dragon Age never pretended to be anything than what it is. An action RPG.

[Jestina]

tch2296 wrote...

Jestina wrote...
Considering the price of consoles these days, you are better off just buying a full computer instead.

No, you aren't. For $250, what kind of gaming computer are you thinking of dude? Plus, with computers, you need to update your hardware constantly in order to stay up-to-date so that games run well. It's far more expensive in the long run and only for the people who must have the absolute best graphics and the most customization.

250? Consoles cost a whole heck of a lot more than that...when the hardware was new. Now that they are even older...250 is still way too much to be paying for an outdated hunk of junk.  When did the 360 come out, around 2006 I think. I'm sure I could find you a 2006 computer for less than 250.

[Tup3x]

jreezy wrote...

Mettyx wrote...

P.S.
Also you people who own 7 year old console hardware and buy games for it, there is a good reason to believe that ME3 deteriorated so much because they are trying to stuff so much stuff in it, there is no room for fluid detailed animations anymore.

I hope you are proud of yourselves for halting progress and actually degrading games for almost a decade now.

PC elitism is it? I can stop taking your argument somewhat serious now.

To be honest, it very well could be true. Do you actually know how much faster PCs' are nowadays? Even 2006 PC offers better gaming experience than consoles (8800 GTX is much faster GPU than in PS3 or Xbox 360).

Gear of War vs. ME comparison is absolutely ridiculous by the way.

Modifié par Tup3xi, 15 février 2012 - 07:48 .

[Atmosfear3]

Every time I see a character reach over to their left hip with their right hand to bring out the pistol/SMG, I cringe. I am hoping SOMEONE is talented enough to mod the game post-release and fix some of these problems, though I won't hold my breath.

Seriously Bioware. Step your f'ing game up.

Also whats with Shepard's shuttle landing on someone's terrace on the Salarian world? Did that make sense to anyone but me? I mean it wasn't like they flew around for a minute when they got denied their landing privilege so they decide to make an emergency drop off.

[tch2296]

Jestina wrote...

250? Consoles cost a whole heck of a lot more than that...when the hardware was new. Now that they are even older...250 is still way too much to be paying for an outdated hunk of junk.  When did the 360 come out, around 2006 I think. I'm sure I could find you a 2006 computer for less than 250.

I'm sorry: where do you live? Where I live, consoles do NOT cost "a while heck of a lot more than $250". I live in the United States. There is slim to none chance you could buy a computer that was a better gaming machine than a 360 or a PS3 for less than $250.

I think you might be a little confused there haha!

Modifié par tch2296, 15 février 2012 - 08:01 .

[tch2296]

Atmosfear3 wrote...

Every time I see a character reach over to their left hip with their right hand to bring out the pistol/SMG, I cringe. I am hoping SOMEONE is talented enough to mod the game post-release and fix some of these problems, though I won't hold my breath.

Seriously Bioware. Step your ****g game up.

Also whats with Shepard's shuttle landing on someone's terrace on the Salarian world? Did that make sense to anyone but me? I mean it wasn't like they flew around for a minute when they got denied their landing privilege so they decide to make an emergency drop off.

These types of "issues" are what makes reasonable ME fans laugh. I don't even understand the first complaint. The second one is obviously trivial...you clearly have a bit too much time on your hands buddy

[Jestina]

tch2296 wrote...

Jestina wrote...
250? Consoles cost a whole heck of a lot more than that...when the hardware was new. Now that they are even older...250 is still way too much to be paying for an outdated hunk of junk.  When did the 360 come out, around 2006 I think. I'm sure I could find you a 2006 computer for less than 250.

I'm sorry: where do you live? Where I live, consoles do NOT cost "a while heck of a lot more than $250". I live in the United States. There is slim to none chance you could buy a computer that was a better gaming machine than a 360 or a PS3 for less than $250.
I think you might be a little confused there haha.

No, I think you are if you are trying to compare 2012 computers to a 2006 gaming console. For price comparisons you should be looking at 2006 hardware. When they first came out, those consoles were about 800+...almost three times the amount that consoles used to launch at. That is the reason I see no reason to buy them now. Way back when a launch console cost around 300 and pcs were around a few thousand...then it was a cheaper option to get for games.

[cerberus1701]

Jsxdf wrote...

to those bashing the "whiners":

so people cannot give feedback on a demo without being labeled a whiner? bioware is asking for feedback on the demo, and they are giving them feedback, so that it can be used to either fix the game or help make future games better. there is nothing wrong with this. since we are going to be paying 60-80 bucks for the game and more for dlc maybe we just want the game to be as good as it can be. and something like textures not actually looking like crap is an easy fix

There's a difference between feedback and nitpicking.

There's a difference between something that matters and something that only matters because you want it to because it makes you feel intellectual or elitist or discerning to point it out and call it the beginning of a gaming apocalypse.

Of course, when you then start using it as a platform to crow about the "necessity" of multi-$K gaming rigs and blaming the people (console gamers) who account for the majority of the gaming market again ticks the intellectual, elitist, and discerning boxes.

It also, however, calls your motivations into question.

[tch2296]

Jestina wrote...

No, I think you are if you are trying to compare 2012 computers to a 2006 gaming console. For price comparisons you should be looking at 2006 hardware. When they first came out, those consoles were about 800+...almost three times the amount that consoles used to launch at. That is the reason I see no reason to buy them now. Way back when a launch console cost around 300 and pcs were around a few thousand...then it was a cheaper option to get for games.

Haha, that wasn't the original issue! The debate was, what is a more expensive option for gaming NOW, not 6 years ago! Bizarre you're even trying to make that point!

Today, you can either spend $250 on a console that runs all of today's games extremely well, or you can pay at least $1800 on a computer than will run them well for a year or so before you have to invest another $250.

There's really no argument against the point I'm making. The only reason you'd choose to buy a computer for games these days if it's a hobby of yours or you need the absolute best graphics/best customization, and you have lots of money to spend on it. And BTW, if you enjoy gaming computers, I have absolutely no problem with it, but it is abolsutely more expensive.

For you to claim that "these days" (YOU actually said "these days", not 2006!) it's cheaper to buy a computer for gaming is ridiuclous.

Modifié par tch2296, 15 février 2012 - 08:10 .

[Sapienti]

Got to the end of the first post and had to laugh. I guess the majority of people who play videogames out there should just up and stop supporting the gaming industry and let "PC gamers" have a whack at it.

Seriously though, can't take this thread seriously now. But I will say if you can't beat them, join them. Simply having contempt for consoles wont make them go away.

[Tup3x]

tch2296 wrote...

Jestina wrote...

No, I think you are if you are trying to compare 2012 computers to a 2006 gaming console. For price comparisons you should be looking at 2006 hardware. When they first came out, those consoles were about 800+...almost three times the amount that consoles used to launch at. That is the reason I see no reason to buy them now. Way back when a launch console cost around 300 and pcs were around a few thousand...then it was a cheaper option to get for games.

Haha, that wasn't the original issue! The debate was, what is a more expensive option for gaming NOW, not 6 years ago! Bizarre you're even trying to make that point!

Today, you can either spend $250 on a console that runs all of today's games extremely well, or you can pay at least $1800 on a computer than will run them well for a year or so before you have to invest another $250.

There's really no argument against the point I'm making. The only reason you'd choose to buy a computer for games these days if it's a hobby of yours or you need the absolute best graphics/best customization, and you have lots of money to spend on it. And BTW, if you enjoy gaming computers, I have absolutely no problem with it, but it is abolsutely more expensive.

For you to claim that "these days" (YOU actually said "these days", not 2006!) it's cheaper to buy a computer for gaming is ridiuclous.

As a PS3 owner I can say that it doesn't even run Uncharted 3 well... 30 fps isn't smooth and the resolution is horrible, jaggies everywhere. 5 years old PC could do better.

Those who say that PC gaming rigs cost thousand's are just clueless. For your information you are paying you console every time you buy a game, those cost way more than PC games. The point is that you don't even have to buy the best to get superior gaming experience compared to consoles.

Modifié par Tup3xi, 15 février 2012 - 08:25 .

[Jestina]

tch2296 wrote...
For you to claim that "these days" (YOU actually said "these days", not 2006!) it's cheaper to buy a computer for gaming is ridiuclous.

If you prefer outdated hardware from 2006 then sure, but like I said, I can probably find you a 2006 computer for cheaper than a console...and the pc will have better quality parts in it. You just have to shop around.

[Armass81]

Whumpster wrote...

Mettyx wrote

Yep, I just can't play it anymore, the whole thing is ruined. I just wish I could understand how is it possible that this can happen.

I have been reading for the past five or six pages now laughing my a@# off. Do you really believe that a demo that has a download of 2 Gigs, is the final product that  they are releasing? 
its a demo you all understand what that means right? I'm not here to bash anyone and yes DA2 was a huge let down but you cant compare a demo to the finished product. In 21 days(yay!) when it is relasesd, and if it is as you all say broken then yes please complain, hell i'll be in the frontlines with you all.

Exactly, this guy gets it. Play the goddamn game then come here to complain if you didnt like it. Thats what I will do. Why cant you guys, who just keep whining?

Modifié par Armass81, 15 février 2012 - 08:40 .

[tch2296]

Tup3xi wrote...

As a PS3 owner I can say that it doesn't even run Uncharted 3 well... 30 fps isn't smooth and the resolution is horrible, jaggies everywhere. 5 years old PC could do better.

Those who say that PC gaming rigs cost thousand's are just clueless. For your information you are paying you console every time you buy a game, those cost way more than PC games. The point is that you don't even have to buy the best to get superior gaming experience compared to consoles.

You're kidding right? What do you mean PC games are "way cheaper" than PS3 games? You're just plain wrong on that account. Sure, they might cost $10 more on release. But like I said, a decent gaming rig is going to cost you at least $1700. Even back in 2006, a PS3 was $600. There is absolutely NO WAY a gaming rig is less expensive than a console, PERIOD.

Uncharted 3 looks amazing to the vast majority of gamers. Sure, there will always be people like you, nitpicking over stupid small details that nobody else cares about. Too bad you can't even get Uncharted 3 on PC, huh? It's an incredible game whether or not it has "jaggies". I used to be just like you - obsessed with frames per second and "jaggies" and resolution and anti-aliasing, et, etc, etc.

I am definitely not clueless, as i mentioned before, I used to own a watercooled gaming rig, and I used to spend hundred of dollars on it per year. I loved it, it was a serious hobby of mine, and if you're into that, I obviously have no problem with it.

But any reasonable person would admit console gaming is far less expensive and less complicated than PC gaming. It's just a fact. These days, I don't care if the game is running at 30 FPS or 60 FPS, as long as it looks good and I can enjoy it, that's all I care about.

[Atmosfear3]

tch2296 wrote...

Atmosfear3 wrote...

Every time I see a character reach over to their left hip with their right hand to bring out the pistol/SMG, I cringe. I am hoping SOMEONE is talented enough to mod the game post-release and fix some of these problems, though I won't hold my breath.

Seriously Bioware. Step your ****g game up.

Also whats with Shepard's shuttle landing on someone's terrace on the Salarian world? Did that make sense to anyone but me? I mean it wasn't like they flew around for a minute when they got denied their landing privilege so they decide to make an emergency drop off.

These types of "issues" are what makes reasonable ME fans laugh. I don't even understand the first complaint. The second one is obviously trivial...you clearly have a bit too much time on your hands buddy

And you clearly have very low standards, accepting whatever sub-par products thats given to you because it X company made it.

And if you don't understand the first complaint, why don't you try it out yourself? Pretend like you have a gun on your left hip and reach over with your right to grab it. Or better yet, observe any police officer you run into on the street and see which side of their body they keep their pistols. Now ask yourself, "why is it this way IRL and not in-game?"

In a game thats designed to immerse the player, little things like this take away from the experience because they stick out like sore thumbs.

[Atmosfear3]

tch2296 wrote...

 These days, I don't care if the game is running at 30 FPS or 60 FPS, as long as it looks good and I can enjoy it, that's all I care about.

And thanks for proving my point about your standards.

[tch2296]

Yeah I guess I do have "low standards" compared to you if you require all your games to play at 60 FPS. I could care less as long as it looks good and plays well.

The point I was trying to make is that console game is much less expensive than buying a full-on gaming rig, and that it's ridiculous to claim everyone should jsut start buying gaming PC's because it's a better deal.

What say you to that?

Modifié par tch2296, 15 février 2012 - 09:16 .

[tch2296]

Atmosfear3 wrote...

And you clearly have very low standards, accepting whatever sub-par products thats given to you because it X company made it.

And if you don't understand the first complaint, why don't you try it out yourself? Pretend like you have a gun on your left hip and reach over with your right to grab it. Or better yet, observe any police officer you run into on the street and see which side of their body they keep their pistols. Now ask yourself, "why is it this way IRL and not in-game?"

In a game thats designed to immerse the player, little things like this take away from the experience because they stick out like sore thumbs.

Again man, things like this only bother people like you. You should realize you are in a very small minority of very picky people, and the developers really don't give care if they ****** people like you off. It's impossible to make gamers like you happy. The rest of us are going to enjoy Mass Effect 3, and as far as I'm concerned, if you are gonna go off in corner and sulk about the "jaggies" and the frames per second, have at it! Seems to me like you deserve it lol!

Modifié par tch2296, 15 février 2012 - 09:20 .

[THE LORD HERESY]

Don't blame console owners and consoles.

Blame Bioware.

[corkey sweet]

Xarathox wrote...

I laughed at how stiff Anderson looked while running with his pistol drawn...then realized Shepard does the same. So, I laughed more.

i think the animations are a little stiff. nothing to get to upset over i think, but it is a downgrade from ME2

[Chromie]

tch2296 wrote...
Sure, they might cost $10 more on release. But like I said, a decent gaming rig is going to cost you at least $1700. Even back in 2006, a PS3 was $600. There is absolutely NO WAY a gaming rig is less expensive than a console, PERIOD

These days, I don't care if the game is running at 30 FPS or 60 FPS, as long as it looks good and I can enjoy it, that's all I care about.

You can't be serious? I have always managed to post $500-$600 PC builds when asked in the off topic section. You don't need a powerful PC to play most games on the market. 

I played the demo on max nearly 60 fps all the time on a single HD 5770, 4 gigs of ram and Q6600 at 1920x1200 res. I did not spend $1700 when the Q6600 used to be the best and I still have all the part I had originally only different GPU. 

You don't need $1700 for a powerful PC build you can build one for $1000 which should last a long time. Hell with $1700 I'd get into 3D gaming.

Modifié par Ringo12, 15 février 2012 - 09:29 .

[Atakuma]

THE LORD HERESY wrote...

Don't blame console owners and consoles.

Blame Bioware.

Right, this is a matter of bioware either lacking the talent or the motivation do do these things properly. It has nothing to do with the consoles