Alkastelca wrote...
No the performance on ps3 is just that bad that it's never above 20fps
Modifié par MegaSovereign, 04 mars 2012 - 05:34 .
MegaSovereign wrote...
In the demo though there were a lot of cutscenes that were basically locked at 20 FPS. What I want to know is that if there are framerate drops will it just come off as a short term slowdown, or is it locked at a low frame-rate for longer periods of time? Almost every console game I've played has some slowdown even when the game is supposedly capped at 30 FPS.
Alkastelca wrote...
@MegaSovereign:
What can they do honestly ?
Really ?
First they could, no, they should optimize the game for ps3. We pay the same and deserve the same !
Just stop defending bioware.... You see this is why we are treated like this...
Alkastelca wrote...
@MegaSovereign:
What can they do honestly ?
Really ?
First they could, no, they should optimize the game for ps3. We pay the same and deserve the same !
Just stop defending bioware.... You see this is why we are treated like this...
harryandgem wrote...
if you look at digital foundrys analasis you will see that the 2nd segment of the demo had major frame drops aswell, so this idea that the problems are only prevelant at the begiining of the game are quite cleary wrong.
Modifié par harryandgem, 04 mars 2012 - 06:27 .
harryandgem wrote...
for all you guys and gals who have no choice but to buy it on ps3 do me a favour, start youre ps3 go to settings and adjust youre resolution to 576p [trust me it still looks ok] this definatley improves frame rate and cutscenes, i do this on a lot of games, borderlands and assassins creed, the frame rate improves because its only rendering in 576p, id be interested to see what difference you think it makes, there is a downside and that is the jaggies are slightly more noticeable.
Modifié par Valkyre4, 04 mars 2012 - 06:33 .
this is for all those people who are buying it regardless of issues, and you dont have to be so negative all the time, i really dont care what set up you have, most on here will be buying the game [you are quite clearly not which begs the question why do you still come here?] reduction of resolution= better performance and dont knock it to you try it, the game still looks good and i have a 46inch lcd tv.Valkyre4 wrote...
harryandgem wrote...
for all you guys and gals who have no choice but to buy it on ps3 do me a favour, start youre ps3 go to settings and adjust youre resolution to 576p [trust me it still looks ok] this definatley improves frame rate and cutscenes, i do this on a lot of games, borderlands and assassins creed, the frame rate improves because its only rendering in 576p, id be interested to see what difference you think it makes, there is a downside and that is the jaggies are slightly more noticeable.
I did not spend a truckload of money in PS3 and plasma HDTV to play in 576p... are you serious?
harryandgem wrote...
this is for all those people who are buying it regardless of issues, and you dont have to be so negative all the time, i really dont care what set up you have, most on here will be buying the game [you are quite clearly not which begs the question why do you still come here?] reduction of resolution= better performance and dont knock it to you try it, the game still looks good and i have a 46inch lcd tv.Valkyre4 wrote...
harryandgem wrote...
for all you guys and gals who have no choice but to buy it on ps3 do me a favour, start youre ps3 go to settings and adjust youre resolution to 576p [trust me it still looks ok] this definatley improves frame rate and cutscenes, i do this on a lot of games, borderlands and assassins creed, the frame rate improves because its only rendering in 576p, id be interested to see what difference you think it makes, there is a downside and that is the jaggies are slightly more noticeable.
I did not spend a truckload of money in PS3 and plasma HDTV to play in 576p... are you serious?
Azzanadra wrote...
A plasma HDTV? You for real?
ok first ive never played skyrim, and 2nd all i have read from you is intolerance of other peoples opinion, i am not the reason the ps3 game is substandard, the ps3 is the reason for that, i am offering a very minor fix to a problem that is not going to be patched, the issues on me2 on ps3 have nether been fixed either, you are plain rude and really have no place in belitteling my advice, thats what this forum is for, if you dont want to try the fix fine move on, but how dare you come on here and ask if im serious when you have done nothing constructive in the past 15 days, i will not be replying to anything further from you, but i will leave you with this, as far as i know only a handfull of multiplats are= this gen, maybe bioware just couldnt get the game running as fast as 360, well what to do, moan to know avail or at least try and be constructive.Valkyre4 wrote...
harryandgem wrote...
this is for all those people who are buying it regardless of issues, and you dont have to be so negative all the time, i really dont care what set up you have, most on here will be buying the game [you are quite clearly not which begs the question why do you still come here?] reduction of resolution= better performance and dont knock it to you try it, the game still looks good and i have a 46inch lcd tv.Valkyre4 wrote...
harryandgem wrote...
for all you guys and gals who have no choice but to buy it on ps3 do me a favour, start youre ps3 go to settings and adjust youre resolution to 576p [trust me it still looks ok] this definatley improves frame rate and cutscenes, i do this on a lot of games, borderlands and assassins creed, the frame rate improves because its only rendering in 576p, id be interested to see what difference you think it makes, there is a downside and that is the jaggies are slightly more noticeable.
I did not spend a truckload of money in PS3 and plasma HDTV to play in 576p... are you serious?
Why am I here? Because I love Mass Effect. The fact that I do not tolerate everything they throw at me and that I do not simply bend over and take it, doesnt mean I have no place here. In fact I am the perfect example of the kind of consumer this gen needs. I am the kind of consumer that -of course with many others- were able to demand and finally fix Skyrim for PS3. If it was for you guys, we would still be playing Skyrim with 1-2 frames per second.
Dont tell me I have no place here.... what is your place here then? You clearly dont think its a big deal and you actually are fine with the issue at hand. So what exactly are YOU doing here? This is a place to express technical issues with the game. Obviously when you have a technical issue, you are not the happiest guy out there and you obviously are not coming here to just say "you know what, this is the problem, but hey... its fine, I dont mind it..." what would be the point of that??
nowhere in this board section does it state "PS3 technical support but only for those who have bought the game"... I am here because I am trying for this issue to be fixed. I love Mass Effect and I love Bioware, but the way they treat ps3 version is wrong. I am a consumer and I want them to know that I am willing to buy their games, but at the same time I want equal treatment.
Maybe I can -with the help of others- fix some of the issues that ME3 has on PS3. Maybe I wont. Sure thing is I am going to try for the best. You on the other hand my friend, dont seem to have anything other to say than "its not a big deal". Ok then, please go enjoy the game and let us "haters" and "whiners" try to make the game better. Like we did with Skyrim.
Modifié par Valkyre4, 04 mars 2012 - 07:08 .
youre wrong reducing resolution improves performance, i ask anyone to try any game on ps3 with issues such as screen tear and frame drops and you will see improvement, the game renders at the resolution that you set, if you value my opinion then fine i appologise but it certainly did not seem that way to me, again try any game you have serious issues with on ps3 at that res and you will see a difference [if you have the assassins creed games the difference really is unreal] it does not work for all games but i have tried the demo in 576p and it runs smoother not perfect but a little better, and anyway the one thing i an sure of with games this gen is that we have had to comprimise, how many really well performing games do you have?, me uncharted and killzone, deadspace, there are issues with virtually every other game i have, i mean there is a reason why alan wake renders at such low resolution, this gen is all about comprimises, again if you were not meaning to be rude i appologise. but this fix has worked for me on many games.Valkyre4 wrote...
You ask me how I dare to tell you that I didnt spent a lot of money to play games in 576p in the year 2012....
but it is perfectly fine to tell me yourself that i have no place here on this board...
On the other hand, your "fix" doesnt fix anything anyway, as pointed by other members of this board. I didnt want to repeat myself hence I didnt tell you anything. Ps3 renders the game at 720p. It doesnt matter what resolution you force the game to play in, the game will be rendered at 720p. It will just upscale or downscale. Performance wont change.
I value everyone's opinion, just because my opinion reeks of "negativity" doesnt mean I dont value your opinion. And I consider myself "realistic" not negative.
"unrealistic" is your opinion (but i respect it) when you claim that the reason ME3 is substandard on PS3 is nobody else fault but the PS3's... removing all responsibility from Bioware. That, I will never agree with... you can call me "negative", I call myself "realistic". PS3 is not creating itself ME3, Bioware is. If they cant make the game run on a system that has produced far more impress looking titles (arguably the best console looking ones this gen) , then it is their fault.
to be fixed via a patch. Anything else is unacceptable to this customer.
druss44121 wrote...
So basically the choices are... XBOX360, where you have to swap disks, PS3 with a subpar framerate, or the PC which is a mediocre console port and requires the Origin client. Ugh. Also, no excuse for the framerate issues. Many UE3 games on the PS3 (such as Batman Arkham City which runs flawlessly) have amazing framerates and a better use of the UE3 graphics engine than what we saw in the demo here. I'm not sure what's going on, but you can't just say, "well the PS3 is hard to code for," because the UE3 has been tried and tested. I played the ME2 demo on my PS3 and it played fine, as well, and looked better regarding anti-aliasing. Rage plays at 60 FPS on my PS3 and looks incredible. Red Dead Redemption looks incredible and almost never has slowdowns, ever. And those are all MULTIPLATS.
There's no excuse for this, and a patch should be released. Even Skyrim now plays as well as Oblivion ever did on my much more powerful PC, since those games always have some minor minor lag as the environment loads. No excuse for this, I expect it to either a) not be present in the real game or
goggle a face of with any of those games you mention even the arkham games and you will see they played and performed better on 360, rage has awfull pop in and red deads native resolution is 20% less than 360, im not saying they dont look good on ps3 but they certainly look better on 360 [ i own both and def prefer my ps3]druss44121 wrote...
So basically the choices are... XBOX360, where you have to swap disks, PS3 with a subpar framerate, or the PC which is a mediocre console port and requires the Origin client. Ugh. Also, no excuse for the framerate issues. Many UE3 games on the PS3 (such as Batman Arkham City which runs flawlessly) have amazing framerates and a better use of the UE3 graphics engine than what we saw in the demo here. I'm not sure what's going on, but you can't just say, "well the PS3 is hard to code for," because the UE3 has been tried and tested. I played the ME2 demo on my PS3 and it played fine, as well, and looked better regarding anti-aliasing. Rage plays at 60 FPS on my PS3 and looks incredible. Red Dead Redemption looks incredible and almost never has slowdowns, ever. And those are all MULTIPLATS.
There's no excuse for this, and a patch should be released. Even Skyrim now plays as well as Oblivion ever did on my much more powerful PC, since those games always have some minor minor lag as the environment loads. No excuse for this, I expect it to either a) not be present in the real game or
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