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MegaSovereign

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Gigamantis wrote...

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Well from my understand, the Ps3 was designed around the idea that both the Cell Processor and the GPU card would work together in rendering the game's graphics. The Unreal Engine 3 is a midware engine designed around the traditional 360/PC, meaning that most PS3 games utilizing this engine don't use the Cell processor to help the graphics card render. Dragon Age 2 used a different engine, one that allowed bioware to off-load specific graphical tasks (like anti-aliasing, for example) to the cell processor, freeing up GPU time.

I'm not a programmer but that's what I think the problem might be. That and something to do with bandwidth limitations on PS3. Anyways, these framerate issues *really* aren't game-breaking. Even the demo was bearable. I think a lot of people are just mad that there isn't platform parity between the console versions. However, the platform you play it on shouldn't really affect your enjoyment of the game...at least in my humble opinion.

Remember folks the grass is always greener on the other side. If we were all 360 owners we'd be complaining about the disc swapping issues and how it's even worse than ME2's..

At the end of the day I think most people would prefer disc swapping to overtly stressing the consoles GPU to the point where it might start hard crashing your system.  It's the PS3's fault for cheaping out on the GPU and Bioware's fault for not adjusting the engine for the PS3's in-built limitations, but this is more than just an immersion issue.  This kind of thing consistently happening is going to shorten the lifespan of our PS3's. 

Hopefully it's not that bad, but I'll be waiting for feedback and others would be smart to do the same. 


Lol...Performance issues aren't going to break your GPU cards. That's absurd.

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if your ps3 suck, blame it on its operating system, ps3's os need and use more ram than xbox 360's os does, sony should have made ps3's os simpler and easy to use
and also cell be and rsx ps3 gpu need a lot of power, ps3 should have had power adapter on it in order to get the best result .
i love my ps3, cause i made it different, no more rough image, low frame rate, tearing and pop in.

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rye80 wrote...

if your ps3 suck, blame it on its operating system, ps3's os need and use more ram than xbox 360's os does, sony should have made ps3's os simpler and easy to use
and also cell be and rsx ps3 gpu need a lot of power, ps3 should have had power adapter on it in order to get the best result .
i love my ps3, cause i made it different, no more rough image, low frame rate, tearing and pop in.


Your sentence structure and punctuation isn't what I hoped for.  

Regardless, if you somehow found a "quick" fix since you made yours "different" then please share to the community.

Modifié par ZuperDweebb, 05 mars 2012 - 08:28 .


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Once and for all: engines are simply tools.
In capable hands, well programmed, they work on every machine.
Simply they must be optimized and on PS3 it takes more time to achieve better results due to its unique architecture and, of course, few developers are willing to take that time...especially when you make a cross platform titles.

Modifié par Cjail, 05 mars 2012 - 10:37 .


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Some ps3 retail gameplay:



Look at the cutscenes how jerky they are :(

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Alkastelca

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And they are not action heavy or with many characters...

They say that later on with a lot of action on screen it's almost a slideshow...

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I am four hours in the game and whilst I was really skeptical in the beginning because the Earth sequence was really bad, it all really improves immediately during the next mission. It's definitely not smooth or 30 fps all the time. I'd say it's similar to ME2. But my, it's amazing.

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Played with the retail version for PS3 and I must say, performance is identical to the demo. Frame dips to what seems to be below 15fps. I hoped that it was just the Earth section that has problems considering the amount of graphical assets being shown at one time but I'm already on Mars and the frame rate still takes a dive. I hope there's a patch that'll address this soon.

It's a annoying that ME2 for PS3 was advertised as using the new ME3 engine and yet ME2 was way smoother than this thing right now.

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ZuperDweebb

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7 hours in, Earth was shaky, but other then that, nothing to really complain about. Other then a dip or two in frame rate here or there it's been smooth.

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I've been playing it for two days straight pretty much and it does get pretty jerky in a lot of cutscenes. No problems during gameplay though. I wouldn't say it's worse than the PS3 version of ME2 in that regard. No big deal as far as I'm concerned. I'm just glad the sound isn't out of sync this time, that was the biggest issue with ME2 (apart from your save files being deleted by the game freezing randomly :P).

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It's just hard to shake off when you have basis for comparisons :)) I have the Xbox version for my Paragon FemShep run and got a PC version just for the hell of it.

I was just hoping they'll be able to maintain the level of smoothness even on cutscenes. There's like a disconnect when they can't show the level of badassery that supposed to be shown when it dips to below 15fps or so.

Don't get me wrong, It's not like I belittle the PS3 version, I just want it to be at least on par with the other platforms :)

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All I finally got a chance to go ahead an load ME3 on my PS3 and as soon as I put the game in it reported that a patch was available version 1.0.1. Does any one know what is in this patch?

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ME2 was the same way and it never got fixed. You just basically have to get used to it.

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Well, I got the game and so far it's good but not great. Why? Because of framerate and buggy animations

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I just got my game a couple of hours ago and the frame rate is quite annoying (even after Earth). It makes my head hurt to look at it, I seriously hope they fix this, because other than that, So far the game is great.

Please Bioware fix the frame-rate soon it spoils the cut scenes!

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i haven't noticed any framerate hiccups? maybe you people have the model 1 20 gig ps3?

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They need to give us an option for us to install on PS3. As much as I hate it, but I believe with that, it should at least leave-ate some of the loading and performance issue.

Mass Defect 3 ...3 times the more issues!!! Save your PS3 back from Bioware :P

Modifié par darknightlee, 09 mars 2012 - 02:45 .


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i went into the multiplayer when i first got the game and didnt notice as frame rate issues. So after a few hours jumped into the single player and omg its bad xD i hope i can push past the start of the game as i hear it gets a tiny bit better later. Saying that though it doesn't half ruin the overall experience that ME3 should be about :(

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ok got to mars and the part where you have to stealth kill a dude is almost unplayable with the frame rate... took 5 mins trying to line up the kill because of the damn frame rate being worse than people dancing in strobe lights lol

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VivaLaWhatsername

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Darcblade wrote...

ok got to mars and the part where you have to stealth kill a dude is almost unplayable with the frame rate... took 5 mins trying to line up the kill because of the damn frame rate being worse than people dancing in strobe lights lol


Seriously? I've never heard of any frame rate being THAT bad in ME3, mine is just sort of...I don't really know how to explain it to be honest, I just feel the need to blink a lot as if it's sort of blurry, and it's giving me a headache. But I am passed Mars and it seems to have picked up now.

Also so far I haven't had any other glitches or problems yet *crosses fingers* :bandit:

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Darcblade wrote...

ok got to mars and the part where you have to stealth kill a dude is almost unplayable with the frame rate... took 5 mins trying to line up the kill because of the damn frame rate being worse than people dancing in strobe lights lol


I want to say you might have something wrong with your PS3.  Or maybe I am just lucky.  I played through till I could free roam the Normandy to see if I could get my CE to register as a CE and I had no problems with frame rate at all.  My PS3 is a slim just over a year old, purchased Dec of 2010.  And while I have no way of acurately measuring the framerate I definitely did not notice any stuttering.

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Bioware, you need to address this. It is not fair. It simply isnt fair. You guys are a big respectable company, you need to fix this.

We are not talking about some small fps problems, we are talking about a significant hit in performance compared to the other versions. In some cases it seriously affects gameplay when you play in higher difficulties. This is wrong, please do the right thing, listen to your fans and fix what can be fixed.

You said you are investigating it, please tell us what you are going to do now to remedy the situation.

Again, I will say it, it simply is not fair. We are being treated as 2nd rate customers here and we deserve more. Please respond and communicate with your fans.

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ive got the pc and the ps3 version and i have to admit my pc blows the min specs for the game out the water but people who have said we need to be able to install the game on the hard drive are spot on this needs to be allowed the disc reading on the ps3 is mental its going haywire all the time and thats gonna screw the blu ray drive rather fast i would imagine as it is putting a lot of stress on the moving parts of the drive which in turn is putting stress on the console hence the poor frame rates.
I know the ps3 isnt the easiest console to program for but its going to get a hell of a lot harder when sony release the ps4 and head towards a qnx based os bioware need to addres the fact that this is a bad oversight and remember that they should of tested and noticed this first also 720p isnt acceptable in this day and age.

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Mass Effect 3 PSN version (Digital Version):

Pros:
- Significantly shorter loading times compared to Mass Effect 2. 
- Frame rates are smoother in gun fights and in Normandy. No noticeable frame rate drop in the beginning scene. (PSN version, can't speak for Blue-ray version)
- Skipping conversations and Paragon/ Renegade cut scenes are smoother than Mass Effect 2. 
- Hardly any freeze (1 or 2 second freeze) when entering new area. (Common problem in ME 2)

Cons:
- Hard freeze at Dr. Eva when saving Ashley. Probably more freezes in future.

I bought this digital version which includes "From Ashes" and exclusive Mass Effect theme for only about $20 (USD). :wizard:

Modifié par ThE-1cY, 09 mars 2012 - 10:52 .


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snugglecakes wrote...

i haven't noticed any framerate hiccups? maybe you people have the model 1 20 gig ps3?

same here.
tips :  for better view just choose JUST SCAN mode [aspect ratio] on your tv