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[Came99]

In Europe Wardens keep didnt cost 7 bucks. It costed 10. To be precise: 52 danish kroner which with the current rate equals 10.44 US dollars. I am very puzzled why the Europeans have to pay 30-40 % extra for their content? You just think that you can squeeze that extra dough from us, so why not, ehh?

Generally I would like to say the following to Bioware:

In my opinion Wardens Keep wasnt worth neither 7 or 10 bucks content wise, but I bought it anyway to have the storage (which in my humble opinion should have been included with the game). If it wasnt because of the fact that I got the game in a very profitable preorder deal (traded in 2 cheap bought pre-played games and got DA:O for 1 danish krone (20 cent)) I would never have bought Wardens Keep. But since I got the game very cheap I felt I could spare the 10 dollars. There is not a chance I will buy anymore though, because the price is simply to steep. You cant compare DLC to food and coffee, but to other games only, and DLC simply is to expensive compared to gametime, and compared to saving the money and buy a whole new game.

You might make a massive profit on this in the short run, but I am absolutely sure that on the long run you will lose. You will lose a lot of goodwill and end up with a damaging reputation as a company who milks their players.
 
NOONE would have minded one or two bigger expansions during the lifespan of this game, but milking people here and there with 1 hour of gameplay for outrageous prices, advertising the DLC from ingame, not including storage chest in original game and other shenenigans  will just make you a bit more unpopular for every time you pull such a stunt (as it shows clearly on the forums).

Before this game you were the RPG-company who couldnt fail. You had a very large and devoted fanbase who trusted in you. You were for RPGs what Rockstar is for sandbox-games: THE ONES WHO NEVER DISSAPOINTS. That reputation is worth a LOT of coffee and buritos. Now you are EXTREMELY quickly throwing all that overboard and getting a reputation of a company who is only after milking your customers as much as possible.

Was it worth it? Right now your saving account probably say yes, but I sincerely doubt it.
 
Have it your way´, Bioware. 

I, for instance, is one you are losing. Dragons Age is a great game, and I have been enjoying it very much. But it isnt so great that I cant leave your next one on the shelves if I dont like your company politics. I am voting with my wallet, and I bet I wont be the only one.
 

Modifié par Came99, 24 novembre 2009 - 12:10 .

[Raint]

(Danish) så køb en kage i stedet for!

Modifié par Raint, 24 novembre 2009 - 10:04 .

[Ancastna]

I think it's because we Europeans are so pretty.

[Killian Kalthorne]

To pay for the translation.

[th3warr1or]

Agreed. Warden's Keep was 12bucks here... >.>

[Dk Slayer1]

Det er ikke bioware der bestemmer prisen

[Raint]

det er EA / Its EA

[Came99]

Just getting a danish reply here saying that it isnt Bioware who decides the pricing.
Maybe its true, maybe its not. I am quite convinced they have a saying in it.

Nevertheless: Who will get the blame when people feel they should have had 3 hours of gameplay for their bucks, instead of one? Bioware. Hence why their problem still stands.

Modifié par Came99, 24 novembre 2009 - 10:18 .

[Came99]

Killian Kalthorne wrote...

To pay for the translation.

What translation?

[wanderon]

Actually you don't have to pay for it at all - it's optional content you can choose to pay for or choose not to -



why is that so hard for people to understand?



When you buy a car do you expect to go back and get a fancy moon roof installed for free?



When you buy a set of dishes fo you expect to return to the store later for a free gravy boat?



DLC allows the devs to be paid to continue to provide additional content - buy it if you like or don't but for gods sake quit acting like someone is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to buy it.

[Ancastna]

Maybe the language is a big factor. I'm form the UK and it's £5.49 here. Think that's around about $7.

Edit: Sorry, message delay. :S Does all European DLC come out as just English?

Modifié par Ancastna, 24 novembre 2009 - 10:28 .

[DJoker35]

Good lord. Yet another "Give me your work for free" thread. If you don't want to buy it, then don't. There are plenty who love the game and enjoy even an extra hour of content, and have no problem paying for the work that is put in to create it, that will.The end.

[Soeverein]

Killian Kalthorne wrote...

To pay for the translation.

The majority of European countries don't actually have a translation and just use the English version.

[Ancastna]

DJoker35 wrote...

Good lord. Yet another "Give me your work for free" thread. If you don't want to buy it, then don't. There are plenty who love the game and enjoy even an extra hour of content, and have no problem paying for the work that is put in to create it, that will.The end.

That's fair enough for you to say, Joker, but you don't have to pay extra for what seems like nothing but your place of origin.

[Scorus]

I've also been ticked off that for some reason

$ = € in terms of pricing.

1 € = 1,5 $



But I'm curious...

How many $ is 400 Bioware points? 1600?



Atm in Euro it's like this:

400 BWP = 4.65 €

1600 BWP = 18.61 €

[DJoker35]

Ancastna wrote...

DJoker35 wrote...

Good
lord. Yet another "Give me your work for free" thread. If you don't
want to buy it, then don't. There are plenty who love the game and
enjoy even an extra hour of content, and have no problem paying for the
work that is put in to create it, that will.The end.

That's fair enough for you to say, Joker, but you don't have to pay extra for what seems like nothing but your place of origin.

Which
may have been a valid point, if the OP had left it at that (higher
price in Europe).

But he didn't. He went into the same, tired, "DLC
sucks why do I have to pay for extra content" entitlement, give me your work for free, baloney that flies around these forums on a daily basis.

[Dk Slayer1]

This thread is not about paying for DLC. It's about europeans having to pay MORE for the DLC than other countries.. US to mention one

[Came99]

We obviously have some fanbois of the worst kind here. Either that or people with a less than average IQ. Either way, please let me help you out by elaborating a bit:

1) I dont expect DLC for free

I clearly stated that noone would mind one or two larger expansion packs. The problem is as I see it either too little content for the current price, or too high a price for the 1 hour of content. Give me a genuine expansion pack with 10-15 hours of gametime for say 200 danish kroner (around 40 dollars) instead of 4x1 hours for the same price. The latter is rip-off in my book.

2) No. Noone is holding a gun to my head.

I percieved that much myself, thank you. And I am not buying any more content. What I dont like is the fact that things like the storage chest in my opinion should have been part of the original game. I dont like the fact that DLC is advertised from inside the game either. Even when I choose to say no, I am still confronted with a profit-hungry company who is crossing my limits.

I hope I elaborated things a bit for the impaired. Can we please get other arguments on the table other than the generic fanboi crap about "People expect to get everything for free" or "Noone is forcing you to buy it". Both arguments is invalid in the points I am trying to state, and I would very much appriciate that fanbois and retards stay away from this thread from now on. Thank you in advance.

Can we get back to a mature discussion now?

Modifié par Came99, 24 novembre 2009 - 10:45 .

[Mordaedil]

I think he's saying the currency isn't translating properly, causing the inflation of price to make certain European countries pay more, because often the prices are just converted to 1 Dollar= 1 Euro, instead of the true current currency as at the time of this posting is 1 dollar = 0,669 Euro.



Why is this important? It would mean the DLC we paid €7 for, should have cost €4,7 and the game itself, €37,5. It's even more attrocious when converted from, say, Euro's to Danish kroner or Norwegian kroner.

[DJoker35]

Came99 wrote...


You might make a massive profit on this in the short run, but I am absolutely sure that on the long run you will lose. You will lose a lot of goodwill and end up with a damaging reputation as a company who milks their players.
 
NOONE would have minded one or two bigger expansions during the lifespan of this game, but milking people here and there with 1 hour of gameplay for outrageous prices, advertising the DLC from ingame, not including storage chest in original game and other shenenigans  will just make you a bit more unpopular for every time you pull such a stunt (as it shows clearly on the forums).

Before this game you were the RPG-company who couldnt fail. You had a very large and devoted fanbase who trusted in you. You were what Rockstar is for sandbox-games: The ones who never dissapoints. That reputation is worth a LOT of coffee and buritos. Now you are EXTREMELY quickly throwing all that overboard and getting a reputation of a company who only is after milking your customers as much as possible. Was it worth it? Right now your saving account probably say yes, but I sincerely doubt it.
 
 

This makes me think the issue is a tad more than just the cost in Europe. I wonder if the OP would be a fan of DLC if it was the same price as in the States, or if these 2 paragraphs would still apply...

[stefan9]

I also had to pay about $10 instead of the advertised $7. Isn't there anyway BW could use other currencies than just $?? To buy the dlc is costing more than the ME dlc because of having to convert from dollars to rands and then having the 2% bank fee on top of it. With ME second dlc I could buy from the eastore which already listed the dlc in rands so there was no conversion cost only the 2% banking fee. It would really help a lot if you added more currencies to the dlc shop for DAO.

[DJoker35]

Came99 wrote...


Can we get back to a mature discussion now?

I'm sorry. I didn't realize that "mature discussion" meant agreeing with your dislike of DLC. I'll try harder to be more agreeable. I guess it was the comments about fanbois and IQ levels that threw me for a loop on the "mature" part.