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[SithLordExarKun]

I paid 14 dollars for mine...



US currency is x 1.4 of mine

[Diva]

Came99 wrote...

Rhys Cordelle wrote...

It's not as if the original game feels incomplete. Can anyone justly claim that DA:O is a rip off? I doubt it.

Putting the storage container in a DLC is close to being what I define as "alternative strategy" / scam.
Apart from that: No. The game is value for money. The DLC on the other hand is NOT.

For storage chest, look here: http://social.bioware.com/project/463/ works like a charm.

[Came99]

Thanks Diva, but I am on the PS3

[roops80]

Think about it this way.....How much does the average ticket at a movie or some other entertainment avenue cost you? The gaming community has to accept the fact that games are also part of the mainstream entertainment media....some DLC is worth it, some are not.....as long as it has value, i don't think there should be an issue........although instead of giving free dlc with the game, it should have just been bundled with it.....talk bout marketing strategy.....if they have expansions to this, i'll probably wait for the GOTY edition like I waited for Fallout 3.......

[Shinji Ex]

Another way to look at it the DLC will always be there you don't have to buy it right now it could be cheaper later on. example I'm not getting Borderlands DLC simply because I don't have the time for it an I'm tired of spending money + I can just play L4D2 instead lol.

[Came99]

I also weep when I am paying 16 bucks for a movie ticket, but yet I sometimes buy one:

Going to the movies is a chance of getting out of the house and have a social time with your gf or friends.

Downloadable content just doesnt have that special feel of entertainment to it for me.

"Hey I just played the game for 50 hours for 1 buck per hour, and then I can choose to keep playing one additional hour for 10 bucks?"
 
It REALLY doesnt compute, and can nowhere be compared to neither movies, coffee or burritos

Thats my humble opinion at least. Throw me a decent expansion with + 10 hours of gameplay and I will gladly pay 30 bucks for it. As someone stated ealier: It is not a pro/con DLC discussion. All we are asking is DLC at a reasonable price (like 2-4 bucks per hour).

(and no: I would never pay 10 bucks for a cup of coffee either)

Modifié par Came99, 24 novembre 2009 - 01:18 .

[Wurm65]

As an American living in Germany I also paid more than $7 for the DLC ($9.70 give or take a dime or two), however I am used to paying more for my games due to the Draconian VAT.



http://en.wikipedia....Value_added_tax



I'm pretty sure thats why the OP had to pay $10.44 instead of $7.



And complaining about around three and a half dollars more? Three dollar fifty won't even buy you two fullsize candy bars anymore... The DLC added around two hours of content and a really nice looking suit of armor for my Warrior plus a few nice weapons and a good merchant to buy from and sell to along with the storage.



I received my money's worth.



P.S. @ the OP: I've been to Danmark, wonderful country and it was a pleasure to visit, but it is also one of the most expensive places I've ever been. I'm surprised you only paid around three dollars more.

[Came99]

Oops. Messed up in the posting..

Modifié par Came99, 24 novembre 2009 - 01:17 .

[Saphyro]

Wurm65 wrote...

As an American living in Germany I also paid more than $7 for the DLC ($9.70 give or take a dime or two), however I am used to paying more for my games due to the Draconian VAT.

http://en.wikipedia....Value_added_tax

Yup. It's quite normal, really. Living in Poland and purchasing things of U.S origin means for me paying additional 10% customs duty AND 22% [of product+customs price] VAT. That is insane but - honestly - I do not think Bioware can do something about that  

And as for "to pay or not to pay" - yeah, I'm one of those suckers who will pay for DLC, even those Warden's Keep-like. I'm a crpg fanboy all the way. And by crpg [TRUE crpg] I mean BG saga, Fallout 1&2, Planescape [legendary game] etc. - so I'm quite demanding when it comes to new titles. Current DLCs - although not demanding at all - are something to keep me a bit entertained and at the same time give me the opportunity to support this guys with something more than good word. Bioware is one of the few companies [very few] that allows me to believe that even during the times of "simplicity" and "popcorn fun", great things can come to the PC world. DLCs aside, I expect that solid, time-consuming and "inteligent" add-ons will come to us [Mask of the Betrayer WAS great add-on]. I'll just wait and enjoy the game, for it is worth it [and I know that last part is off-topic but I just could not resisst myself

Howgh

Modifié par Saphyro, 24 novembre 2009 - 01:35 .

[KillerRabbit]

On the value of the main game: if you compare the lenght of Dragon Age to a standard games, you get 10x more game for your money than any other game out there at the moment...



And as said before, DLC's are optional - no need to buy them. I however don't mind if they are a couple of dollars more than what they should be, because I have still gotten 10x more game for my money than any other game I have bought the latest 10 years+

[SheffSteel]

In summary:-

• Europe is the richest continent on the planet, and everything is more expensive.
  
• DLC is more expensive than the regular game, by all accounts (including Bioware's - they are charging more because they must expect lower sales).
  
• The in-game salesman is disliked by many customers.

I suppose "caveat emptor" applies, which roughly translates as, "if you don't want to feel like EA/BW is milking you, keep your dangly bits away from the milking machine."

Modifié par SheffSteel, 24 novembre 2009 - 02:22 .

[Came99]

eisberg77 wrote...

2- So what you are saying is that if the DLC team (completly separate team from the ones who made the game) decided to put new features in the game through the DLC, that means it should have been in the game in the first place?  This is something you'll have to get used to, cause I'm sure the DLC team will think of more features to put in.  But one thing for sure though is that the original design of the game did not include storage chests, and that the DLC team decided to put one in.

So you are actually thinking that the storage chest not being in the original game, but in DLC instead  WASNT a deliberate and strategic move?

You honestly think that the devs just didnt think of a storage chest, and the DLC team just -poof- got the idea? You honestly dont think it was left out on purpose to be an extra carrot in the DLC? 

You take the price I must say.  You are hereby officially the most naive person in the whole world. Congratulations.

[Soeverein]

Came99 wrote...

eisberg77 wrote...

2- So what you are saying is that if the DLC team (completly separate team from the ones who made the game) decided to put new features in the game through the DLC, that means it should have been in the game in the first place?  This is something you'll have to get used to, cause I'm sure the DLC team will think of more features to put in.  But one thing for sure though is that the original design of the game did not include storage chests, and that the DLC team decided to put one in.

So you are actually thinking that the storage chest not being in the original game, but in DLC instead  WASNT a deliberate and strategic move?

You honestly think that the devs just didnt think of a storage chest, and the DLC team just -poof- got the idea? You honestly dont think it was left out on purpose to be an extra carrot in the DLC? 

You take the price I must say.  You are hereby officially the most naive person in the whole world. Congratulations.

If the storage chest being a part of paid DLC is what you're getting your panties in a knot over, there's a free one to download on this very site that adds the chest to the camp area, developed by the same guys who made the paid DLC.

[DJoker35]

Came99 wrote...

So you are actually thinking that the storage chest not being in the original game, but in DLC instead  WASNT a deliberate and strategic move?

You honestly think that the devs just didnt think of a storage chest, and the DLC team just -poof- got the idea? You honestly dont think it was left out on purpose to be an extra carrot in the DLC? 

You take the price I must say.  You are hereby officially the most naive person in the whole world. Congratulations.

And your lack of research shows that your are the most obtuse. Congratulations.

The storage was not part of the original design, but something that was brought up during final testing. This has been talked about many times on this forum. It's not something that's needed by the game, and some developers have stated that they consider the resource management part of the strategy of the gameplay. Choose to believe them or not. I happen to do so, mainly because I rarely make use of storage at all. If it's not used, it gets sold.

That being said, a storage chest developed for FREE as a toolset example and add-on to your camp was made available by a Bioware developer-

http://social.bioware.com/project/463/

Probably not something that would have been done if all Bioware was concerned about was selling you  something that was "part of the original design" to make some extra money...

Modifié par DJoker35, 25 novembre 2009 - 12:56 .

[Ghandorian]

Holy Extortion Batman!



This VAT is a EU thing? where is all that money going? And I thought getting boned by free trade here in Canada was bad ??

[Came99]

ohh great. For the ps3 (or Xbox for that matter)? No? ohh.. I still claim that their move is deliberate to showel in cash. They got 10 bucks from me on that account. First and last DLC from Bioware I will ever buy.

DJoker.. You failed so many times during this thread, that I really dont understand why you still hang around here.

Modifié par Came99, 25 novembre 2009 - 01:01 .

[VanDraegon]

Same tired complaints. You offer nothing new in the way of an argument.I'm sure Bioware is shedding tears of regret at the loss of your business.

Modifié par VanDraegon, 25 novembre 2009 - 01:26 .

[xcorps]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_Added_Tax

Ghandorian wrote...

Holy Extortion Batman!

This VAT is a EU thing? where is all that money going? And I thought getting boned by free trade here in Canada was bad ??

[Dagorgil]

Came99 wrote...

Mordaedil wrote...

The problem is that the currency values are not taken into consideration is the problem. Steam converts dollars to euros on a 1 = 1 value, which means that the higher value currency get ripped off. One euro is worth one and a half dollar, so the loss is quite considerable when it's just converted 1:1.

I just tried to convert 7 euros to danish kroner and ended up EXACTLY on the price of Wardens keep!!?!

Hey... I wanna pay in Pesos please! Seven pesos!!

Why Pesos?
Jamaican Dollars.... Japanese Yen... Thai Baht...

[LSDS]

A storage chest isn't really needed. There's already a dozen or so in the game. Vendors. Sell your excess gear to them and if you need any of it later on simply buy it back from them.

[Eurypterid]

Came99 wrote...

ohh great. For the ps3 (or Xbox for that matter)? No? ohh.. I still claim that their move is deliberate to showel in cash. They got 10 bucks from me on that account. First and last DLC from Bioware I will ever buy.

DJoker.. You failed so many times during this thread, that I really dont understand why you still hang around here.

If you dig around the forums for a short time and read the dev posts in the various DLC threads, you'll see he's right. Part of the problem with the storage chest was that there are several versions of the camp in the game and it meant that sometimes the chest would appear to be empty (because you were in a different camp version).

You can choose to believe the devs are lying to you. That's your prerogative. But I find it curious that if they have such a great reputation, as you stated in your original post, you'd be willing to paint them with the 'evil, money-grubbers' brush due to one single experience with DLC.

[Eurypterid]

There's no need to insult the OP. Let's keep things civil here.

[Bluesmith]

VAT

10value-added-taxes