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[Giolon]

GODzilla_GSPB wrote...

Georg Zoeller wrote...

Germany has 19%VAT, that could have something to do with it.

USA has 14% VAT as far as I know, so...yes, you're right, a 5% difference in price would be reasonable. But it's more.

USA has no VAT.  Most states have sales tax (see the wiki linked by the previous poster), but businesses only must collect sales tax for transactions in states where they have a physical presence as I understand it.  In effect, it makes Internet sales tax-free for a majority of internet purchases.

As to the OP, VAT's a **** ain't it?

Modifié par Giolon, 27 novembre 2009 - 01:08 .

[Loc'n'lol]

I'm not sure I understand what the issue here is ?



I mean... I'm well aware of the 1€=1$ thing and it pisses me off to no end, which means I import all my new games from UK and get away with cheaper prices than on the other side of the channel, despite the (minor) shipping costs.



But as far as DLC is concerned, my game tells me Warden's keep costs 560 Bioware points and this website proposes me to buy 560 points for 7US$... So um... what's wrong ? Is it just me ?

[Raxtoren]

you pay more for "points" if you're european.

[Aezay]

It's due to this 1$ = 1€ issue that I always buy games in physical form, simply because they are so much cheaper that way. You ought to think that digital distributed content would be cheaper than a physical box with manual and a printed DVD, but no.

Things really didn't bother me before, because I always had the alternative to the digital distributions, but with DLC, you don't, you cannot experience this content unless you're willing to pay for this discrimination tax.

I'm just happy I don't game on consoles, they usually pay 10-15$ more for their games, but that's a whole other story.

[GoldenusG]

There is a 9 - 10% surcharge for UK customers. Only a few cents, but still. (It was 10% on launch, (70cents) it is now slightly lower) NOTE: This is based entirely on tourist rates, but business. That adds another percentile or three to the error margin.

I can only assume that UK prices were matched a couple of months prior to release, when the exchange rate was that poor (Or that good, depending on your point of view).

Modifié par GoldenusG, 27 novembre 2009 - 04:53 .

[Fernando Melo]

The rate for the stores does not change auto-magically, although it is reviewed regularly. So it is definitely possible that with high currency exchange rate movement you may find yourself either benefiting in some cases, or it may cost a bit more at other times, until the new rate is applied.



My point is that this is not being done on purpose just to upset our audience outside north america, which was sort of implied by some.



If you find the price for BioWare Points doesn't appear to make sense in your country then don't buy the points yet, message me and we'll do the best we can to get that updated as soon as possible. You are also welcome to post here of course, but it given the number of forums we try to follow the direct message is the best way.

[hairyforehead]

EA is the death mill for good, smaller companies. Acquiring any quality, innovative companies, they milk what profits they can by exploiting their good reputation and force them to create games with what they consider is the successful "formula" of that company but sticking to industry standards and without any risky creativity or artistry or imagination. Soon that company's name is worthless and all the talent has moved on to more satisfying jobs.



Coming soon: Dragon Age: Street!

[Aezay]

If I set my country to United Kingdom in my EA profile, instead of Denmark, it's asking me for £4.76 instead of €6.51 and that makes me save what is equivalent to $1.78.

[xCirdanx]

VAT has nothing to do with the prices here, if you haven´t realized that i´m sorry. For console players it´s just MS/Sony. (MS basicly) PC, should never be the case and has directly to do with EA.

[Magz]

If you think you can get by in life by not purchasing extras for what you want to enjoy. I fear you will forever remain single, frustrated and doomed to consume beverages with generic labels in tall cans.



You paid for DLC because bioware is not charging a monthly subscription to play their game. If they did you would get free updates on a quarterly, bi annual basis and expansions every 2-3 years to keep your eleven million subscriptions continuous. Not that I am promoting this idea, ever!!!

[Drosera]

The difference between price can be easely explain, it's base on how much people are raydi to buy the product for x money. It has nothing to do with exchange rate or the cost of production. And no it's not evil, it's call capitalism.

You need a lot of money to make a game, investor give them the money and expect the higest return possible, so people who sell the product maximise the profit. Without this, no game that need 5 years of developement would exist. You are just a customer like me, you just have 2 choice you buy it or you don't.



Complaining is a waste of time, but yes you are right DLC is an overexpensive trap for people who have just too much money in their poket. And yes you an see the taint of EA behind it all. But this would be a scam only if they lie about the content the lenght of the DLC or the price and they don't.

[ComTrav]

I sorta regret not waiting three weeks to buy it, as the Digital Deluxe Edition is now $14 US cheaper on Steam. (And if you want the disks, regular edition is cheaper, now, on Amazon.)



I also feel like like my Collector's Edition box set should've included Warden's Keep.



Usually it takes several months for a major title's price to decline that much.

[dgs666]

I prefer an expansion with, maybe 20 hours of game, tons of new content and costing 20 bucks than DLC that's only one hour duration and cost half of the expansion =/

[Mordaedil]

Drosera wrote...

Complaining is a waste of time

Except that there is proof that complaining does accomplish things here.

So, I guess not.

[Meneldhil]

DJoker35 wrote...

Good lord. Yet another "Give me your work for free" thread. If you don't want to buy it, then don't. There are plenty who love the game and enjoy even an extra hour of content, and have no problem paying for the work that is put in to create it, that will.The end.

Read the first message next time, that way you won't look like an idiot.
As for the topic at hand, I'm glad someone from BW answered, but it pretty much sounded like "You eurotrash are going to get screwed over. Sorry". Not really convincing.

The price of the Stone Prisonner is for instance 10$ higher in France than in the US. That is something that could be brought in front of the European court, if someone cared to. They love to step on big, non european companies that try to milk Europeans (such as Microsoft).

And don't go around talking about VTA and what not. The problem is caused by the use of a 1€=1$ conversion rate. Whether this is done because of EA, Bioware, or MS Point (as the moderator implied), I don't care. That's unfair for the european consummers (who I am pretty are making a large  part of your total consummers).

Modifié par Meneldhil, 28 novembre 2009 - 02:00 .

[Diva]

Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped.

[Hodges20xx]

eisberg77 wrote...

Came99, I expect an apology for calling me the most naive person in the world after you read this.

From, http://fidgit.com/ar..._dragon_age.php
 

Hey Tom,

For what it's worth, 'EA' has nothing to do with this (apart from being the parent company of BioWare).

The game was designed with limited inventory for a number of
reasons, the least of which being to limit savegame size and therefore
loadtimes.

Originally there was a small storage chest in the party camp,
until we realized that due to the fact that there are several versions
of the camp area (for reasons evident in the story) and that people
were losing their items (as they were stored in the area).

By the time this problem was discovered, we had not enough time
to fix the problem, plus, we decided that it was not really necessary
anyway since the item limitation was rather generous compared to the
initial designs at least.

The game was finalized tested without a storage chest. The item
limit was never questioned or brought up during the QA phase, after
all, it was part of the design.

The 'storage chest' in Warden's Keep DLC was added by the DLC
team as part of their 'hey, what would be a cool feature for your own
keep' brainstorming.

I'm fine with you being upset about the item limit design in the
game - and fine with you being upset about the chest being included in
the DLC, but I must protest the 'Oh, EA is pushing the limit for more
money' tagline, because that's just not what has happened.

I categorically reject that any features or game systems in this game were designed or removed to 'bilk users for more money'

-- Georg

Lead Systems Designer

Dragon Age

georg@bioware.com

Georg sucks!!! made me pay my 700 pennys for the DLC shame on youB)