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Is there really an excuse for these graphics in 2012?


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Stop buying every game released for you x-box and maybe devs will start thinking about putting some real development time into pc versions.

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The excuse for the disappointing graphic is simple.
Xbox 360 and PS3 hardware is hopelessly outdated by now.

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101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Alright these threads are getting ridiculous...i wish bio would have never released the demo period and everyone would have to wait till march 6th :



tbh i actually agree with you on this.


i loved the demo but you do make a excelent statement

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Abirn wrote...

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Guys guys, please remember that all 12 people who's going to buy the PC version, wants Bioware to spend lots and lots of resources on optimizing the game for their oh-so-superior systems.. Don't EVER forget that.


Go back to yelling profane insults over xbox live.  The grownups are trying to discuss problems with the game on our superior platform.


serious platform? lol you guys are just a majority


you want to talk about grown ups? lol your far from one

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SomeKindaEnigma wrote...

lol was this really worth a whole thread?


Nope, but with so many other stupid topics being created, it should feel right at home.

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Frankly it's about what I expected. The graphics are a touch better than ME2 but are still console based. Which is to be expected for most games these days.

I would be grateful if they released a texture pack for beefier systems but I'm not holding my breath. It's workable to get the story told and the gameplay playable. Not ideal, but very much the times.

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United_Strafes wrote...

Stop buying every game released for you x-box and maybe devs will start thinking about putting some real development time into pc versions.


so wait just to make you happy i have to drop a bunch of money on a machine i know i wont be happy with?


i mean hey man if your made of money buy me one otherwise chill and shut it

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"Is there really an excuse for these graphics in 2012?"

Yes yes there is in fact an excuse. It's called outdated console hardware.

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go play metro or hard reset


seriously

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G3rman wrote...

Listen Mr. and Mrs. PC elitists, the game was only ported to your Higher performing system because of popular demand from the original exclusive Xbox 360. That meant that there was no guarantee you would get a different product, it was a port over with the same graphics.

They chose to continue with keeping the game streamlined for all consoles and only bother releasing it on the PC because you still demand it.


^ this x10

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OMG. What have consoles to PC ? Why you write consoles hardware ? This game is making on consoles ? I dont think so. PC have better hardware than consoles so why bioware dont make better textures,physicsc models for PC .......

Only one hope in modders, maybe they create great texture mods for ME3, now with mods ME2 looks very nice ;p

Modifié par Jurigag, 15 février 2012 - 05:17 .


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chengthao wrote...

G3rman wrote...

Listen Mr. and Mrs. PC elitists, the game was only ported to your Higher performing system because of popular demand from the original exclusive Xbox 360. That meant that there was no guarantee you would get a different product, it was a port over with the same graphics.

They chose to continue with keeping the game streamlined for all consoles and only bother releasing it on the PC because you still demand it.


^ this x10


And do tell what ME1 has to do with ME 2 and 3?  In fact they stated early on that the versions were being developed separetly, clearly they were lying. 

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Tazzmission wrote...

Abirn wrote...

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Guys guys, please remember that all 12 people who's going to buy the PC version, wants Bioware to spend lots and lots of resources on optimizing the game for their oh-so-superior systems.. Don't EVER forget that.


Go back to yelling profane insults over xbox live.  The grownups are trying to discuss problems with the game on our superior platform.


serious platform? lol you guys are just a majority


you want to talk about grown ups? lol your far from one


forget about PC elitists, their just ppl that they spend so much money on their PC b/c they can't spend it on a social life

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Doctor Moustache wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

360 Games with better large-scale water, go. (and post pics for comparison's sake)


Killzone 3, enough said. 

Old consoles are holding graphics back (thats is simply a fact, it doesn't matter if it comes from the mouth of a pc gamer or not) but its not holding them back THAT MUCH.  Mass Effect 3's water just looks plain bad, period, as do a lot of things in the game like clothing textures.  There are other console games, particularly the big ps3 exclusives, that blow it out of the water on the same memory restrictions.  Pun happily unintended.

The reason PC gamers are upset though is because these textures are not what are made in development, they are made much better in PC programs and then downscaled to conform with the console's memory restrictions.  Simple fact no biasness.  The problem is that unlike most developers, Bioware also downscales the textures in the PC version unnecessarily.  Or it would be more accurate to say they just port over the console version and call it a day.  That is why PC gamers are upset, not because they think they deserve more, theres no sense of entitlement.  I guarantee you if one of the consoles was capable of significantly better textures but the other one was holding it back, all the people playing on said console would be crying foul just the same.  I don't know what it is with console gamers feeling so insecure about the truth that consoles ARE outdated pieces of hardware, pure and simple, just as your cellphone would be if you owned the thing for 7 years. 

Bingo. Well said, friend. If I may elaborate a little further...

The assets everyone sees are not the original assets created for the game. Those are of much higher quality/resolution, and are scaled down to fit into the available memory of the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3. Sometimes those original assets are released via texture pack on PC after the game has launched, and the difference is pretty significant.

There's no reason BioWare can't do this.

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Errol Dnamyx wrote...

The excuse for the disappointing graphic is simple.
Xbox 360 and PS3 hardware is hopelessly outdated by now.


This is an utterly ridiculous excuse.  Uncharted, Killzone, Gears, God of War 3, MGS4, etc. all have better graphics and physics than on consoles than the ME series.  The real time water effects in UC3, on giant maps no less, are stunning.  Ditto for KZ3.  Look what Naughty Dog is doing with the Last of US.

You're making excuse for Bioware simply not being able to optimize their code well.

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The PLC wrote...

I fail to see how that looks bad.



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No problem here.

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Apparently (according to Bioware) adding a holster weapon animation is pushing the limitations for consoles. So graphics wise, I'll say we're lucky (that is if Bioware wasn't filling people with obvious bull).

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chengthao wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Abirn wrote...

The PLC wrote...

Guys guys, please remember that all 12 people who's going to buy the PC version, wants Bioware to spend lots and lots of resources on optimizing the game for their oh-so-superior systems.. Don't EVER forget that.


Go back to yelling profane insults over xbox live.  The grownups are trying to discuss problems with the game on our superior platform.


serious platform? lol you guys are just a majority


you want to talk about grown ups? lol your far from one


forget about PC elitists, their just ppl that they spend so much money on their PC b/c they can't spend it on a social life


heh do pc enlitists know what the sun is?

Modifié par Tazzmission, 15 février 2012 - 05:19 .


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Because of consoles.

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PC is the only gaming platform. Consolers are trash bags who can't afford PC's.  Go play MW3 and STFU!

Modifié par TGiNcRySiS, 15 février 2012 - 05:20 .


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Abirn wrote...

And do tell what ME1 has to do with ME 2 and 3?  In fact they stated early on that the versions were being developed separetly, clearly they were lying. 


well let's see . . . all three games are developed by the same ppl (mostly), developing movement and graphics for three separate systems isn't easy and it cost time and money, ME1 was designed for console so they already have basic models to run off of in all three games (don't have to make so many new ones)

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TGiNcRySiS wrote...

PC is the only gaming platform. Consolers are trash bags who can't afford PC's.


or for ppl who rather spend money on a social life rather than "a awesome gaming rig"

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TGiNcRySiS wrote...

PC is the only gaming platform. Consolers are trash bags who can't afford PC's.  Go play MW3 and STFU!


this

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TGiNcRySiS wrote...

PC is the only gaming platform. Consolers are trash bags who can't afford PC's.



not everyone is a pc gamer so get over yourself also why do i get the feeling your comic book guy from the simpsons?

you got his kind of attitude