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[RowanCF]

So like twenty massive dreadnoughts suddenly land in your city one day and start destroying the sh-t out of everything and killing everything that moves. You can either stay hidden inside that vent or go out into the open with some random stranger who's getting shot at left and right by mutated batarians.

Wow, I can hardly imagine why the kid might have wanted to decline help.

Modifié par RowanCF, 15 février 2012 - 08:50 .

[RenownedRyan]

daftPirate wrote...

I thought the general consensus was that the kid is a figment of Shepard's imagination, anyway, and hallucinations say weird things all the time. *imaginary friend nods approval*

I keep hearing the f***ing numbers!

[sp0ck 06]

Remember when Benezia was like "DIEEEEEE" after a bunch of cheesy dialogue? GOD I CAN'T BELIEVE SHE SAID THAT LOL BIOWARE SUX

I'm never seen a more negative group of "fans" in my life.

[Legbiter]

RowanCF wrote...

You can either stay hidden inside that vent or go out into the open with some random stranger who's getting shot at left and right by mutated batarians.

Wow, I can hardly imagine why the kid might have wanted to decline help.

This.

[incinerator950]

Legbiter wrote...

RowanCF wrote...

You can either stay hidden inside that vent or go out into the open with some random stranger who's getting shot at left and right by mutated batarians.

Wow, I can hardly imagine why the kid might have wanted to decline help.

This.

[Adrenaline Junkie]

I think it would've been more effective if the kid had accepted Shepard's help, and then died under her care. Because I'm sorry, but after he said "you can't help me" all I could think was "oh really? Then it's your funeral."

[slimgrin]

A better scenario would have been to have the vent loose structural integrity and violently tip downwards, having the kid slide into a husk's loving grasp.

Modifié par slimgrin, 16 février 2012 - 01:16 .

[Thalorin1919]

It starts off with a few Reapers landing and blowing up everything you know.

You see a guy with a gun getting shot. The kid was probably aware that Alliance HQ was nearby and witnessed that getting ripped up too.

Sorry the kid denied your help, guys. I know you want realistic video game storytelling where every character completely trusts you and all.

>.>

[What a Succulent Ass]

Comrade Goby wrote...

Landline wrote...

I'm just glad that you didn't have to drag the kid around with you.

And that whole scene with the kid was a way to obvious attempt to pull heartstrings. It failed miserably.

Instead of tragic his death was hilarious becasue of the melodramatic way it was presented.

Pretty much.

[TheKillerAngel]

I would expect to find a kid crying and sobbing in a corner if he had seen his entire family get REAP'D whilst the world around him is burning. The kids in Dragon Age acted much more believable.

[android654]

A decent scene in a game with a kid reacting to trauma was in Home Front, where two North Korean soldiers shoot two parents in the head while their infant son watches then he holds their corpses and cries for his father.

I think the fact that you don't see the actual death also impacts the emotion you're expected to feel. Out of sight out of mind, I suppose.

[teh_619]

You just got a taste of quality

[android654]

teh_619 wrote...

You just got a taste of quality

What are you talking about?

[Maria Caliban]

PnXMarcin1PL wrote...

Captain_Obvious_au wrote...

You're surprised that there's bad writing in an ME game without Karpyshyn. Really?

Really? I'm very eager to see how Mass Effect would look like if you have written it.

I'd have followed good-bad-good ending model from Star Wars: ME 1 ends with Shep beating Sovereign. ME 2 ends with the Reapers successfully invading Earth. ME 3 would begin several months later with the Reapers harvesting the galaxy.

According to ME 1, it took decades for the Reapers to harvest the Protheans, so Shepard would be in charge of a resistance, not a war.

[TheGoddess0fWar]

I could deal with the kid being a figment of Shepard's imagination
Seal. Of. Approval.

[What a Succulent Ass]

Maria Caliban wrote...

I'd have followed good-bad-good ending model from Star Wars: ME 1 ends with Shep beating Sovereign. ME 2 ends with the Reapers successfully invading Earth. ME 3 would begin several months later with the Reapers harvesting the galaxy.

This is actually the direction I expected the series to go.

[What a Succulent Ass]

android654 wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

You just got a taste of quality

What are you talking about?

Quality?

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 16 février 2012 - 02:23 .

[HeliusCarthaxis]

 I disagree. I would say this is an EXTREMELY powerful line.

For years, as Shepard, we have fought to keep the Reapers at bay. We went to war with Saren and his Geth, and fought hard to bring down Sovereign. We died soon after, only to come back to fight the Reaper's agents in the galaxy, in a mission where survival was never gauranteed, culminating in a suicidal assault on their base. Along side everything else all our Shepards have done in this effort to try to keep the Reapers and their thralls at bay.

In the end, we've all failed. We couldn't do it. They're here, they're taking over our homeworld with ease. We can't even help a boy stuck in some vents while the world burns around us, let alone beat these machines.

That's what this line delivers to me, that I, Shepard, have failed, despite all my best efforts. To me, that's incredibly powerful. It's even more traumatic combined with the fact the child soon dies. Thus, I think it's a rather poetic line.

[TheShadowWolf911]

this are my thoughts

Shepard: i can help you
Child: you can't help me.

now i insert my own dialogue

Shepard: really? i can't help you? i'm freaking Shepard! i destroyed Sovereign and saved the Citadel, on top of being one of the most skilled soldiers in the galaxy! if i can't help you, who else could? i am literally the best person in a situation like this to seek help from!

[mrbauxjangles]

 We can't help him because all signs point to the kid was a symbol of civilization as a whole saying shepard can't save them all.

[Gavinthelocust]

I like the theory of the kid being a figment of Shepard's imagination. Makes more sense than an actual 10 year old holding a poker face while everyone he knows and loves are dying and not grasping for help wherever he can get it.

[Randy1012]

Random Jerkface wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

I'd have followed good-bad-good ending model from Star Wars: ME 1 ends with Shep beating Sovereign. ME 2 ends with the Reapers successfully invading Earth. ME 3 would begin several months later with the Reapers harvesting the galaxy.

This is actually the direction I expected the series to go.

Same here.

[Travie]

It was a bad bit of writing, but maybe it will come back later somehow in a way that will make it meaningful.

Otherwise its just fluff, and bad fluff at that.

Modifié par Travie, 16 février 2012 - 02:55 .

[Alixen]

Interestingly, it actually set my 11 year old brother crying when he saw the Reaper blow up the shuttles. Before anyone calls me out on him playing; he wasn't, I was playing on the only TV int he house. So, it looks like i'm just a horrifcally jaded and broken human being for not finding it moving in that way.

I think it was a good scene to show some emotion and turmoil for Shepard, however.

Modifié par Alixen, 16 février 2012 - 03:32 .

[PsychoWARD23]

Legbiter wrote...

RowanCF wrote...

You can either stay hidden inside that vent or go out into the open with some random stranger who's getting shot at left and right by mutated batarians.

Wow, I can hardly imagine why the kid might have wanted to decline help.

This.

But, he's Shepard.


Doesn't like everyone know him? Plus, Alliance Uniforms?

I'd choose it over dying.