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[Fredvdp]

BioWare ruined this, not console gamers. They made a choice not to upgrade the visuals for PC. A bad choice in my opinion, but console gamers are not to blame.

[littlezack]

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

Commodore Q wrote...

booohoo hooo , stop crying you idiot. The game just gets pirated on PC so why bother putting so much effort into making that version better when you're just going to get it stolen.

Pirating doesn't work that way, developers want you to believe this though.

About 95% of people who pirate a game wouldn't have bought it in the first place.

Piracy is not an excuse for a crap game for PC.

None of this changes the fact that piracy is ruining developers and making PC an unviable platform.

No, piracy is not ruining the PC market. For gods sake, read my post, it says exactly why. Only 5% of piraters would have bought it in the product in the first place.

Want to know why there is piracy? because it offers a better service than bullcrap like DRM and Origin. It's 100% free, get it in the comfort of your home, no always online protection crap that punishes the legitimate customer, and very fast. It takes about 1 hour to download a copy of Skyrim, copy and paste a couple files around, and voila, you have Skyrim for free, and it took about 1 hour, and you don't need to have steam running.

That's why piracy is rampant, it is the developers own fault.

Valve does NOT suffer from piracy, because they put reasonable deals on their games, and have many price reduction sales. EA on the other hand charges ridiculous amounts, and don't have sales. They're scum.

That's bull. 

If you don't like the way a game is marketed or sold, don't buy. You're not justified in stealing.

[tetrisblock4x1]

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

Commodore Q wrote...

booohoo hooo , stop crying you idiot. The game just gets pirated on PC so why bother putting so much effort into making that version better when you're just going to get it stolen.

Pirating doesn't work that way, developers want you to believe this though.

About 95% of people who pirate a game wouldn't have bought it in the first place.

Piracy is not an excuse for a crap game for PC.

None of this changes the fact that piracy is ruining developers and making PC an unviable platform.

No, piracy is not ruining the PC market. For gods sake, read my post, it says exactly why. Only 5% of piraters would have bought it in the product in the first place.

Want to know why there is piracy? because it offers a better service than bullcrap like DRM and Origin. It's 100% free, get it in the comfort of your home, no always online protection crap that punishes the legitimate customer, and very fast. It takes about 1 hour to download a copy of Skyrim, copy and paste a couple files around, and voila, you have Skyrim for free, and it took about 1 hour, and you don't need to have steam running.

That's why piracy is rampant, it is the developers own fault.

Valve does NOT suffer from piracy, because they put reasonable deals on their games, and have many price reduction sales. EA on the other hand charges ridiculous amounts, and don't have sales. They're scum.

I doubt that these opinions of yours are even verifyable.

[string3r]

Except Mass Effect was on consoles first.

[J0HNL3I]

lol Elitists "im better than you because of what platform i play my games on" your not superior for playing on a diffrent platform than others, the fact that you think you are is laughable.

[string3r]

Merchant2006 wrote...

ALL BOW TO THE POWER OF THE MASTER PC RACE. YOU CONSOLE PEASANTS CANNOT FATHOM OUR POWERFUL PROCESSORS AND ABILITY TO BYPASS GAME CODE IN ORDER TO CREATE A BETTER GAME. THIS IS A GLORIOUS DAY. REVEL IN IT FOR YOU SHALL NOT BE A PART OF IT.

:B

Is that meant to be funny?

[Duncaaaaaan]

littlezack wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

Commodore Q wrote...

booohoo hooo , stop crying you idiot. The game just gets pirated on PC so why bother putting so much effort into making that version better when you're just going to get it stolen.

Pirating doesn't work that way, developers want you to believe this though.

About 95% of people who pirate a game wouldn't have bought it in the first place.

Piracy is not an excuse for a crap game for PC.

None of this changes the fact that piracy is ruining developers and making PC an unviable platform.

No, piracy is not ruining the PC market. For gods sake, read my post, it says exactly why. Only 5% of piraters would have bought it in the product in the first place.

Want to know why there is piracy? because it offers a better service than bullcrap like DRM and Origin. It's 100% free, get it in the comfort of your home, no always online protection crap that punishes the legitimate customer, and very fast. It takes about 1 hour to download a copy of Skyrim, copy and paste a couple files around, and voila, you have Skyrim for free, and it took about 1 hour, and you don't need to have steam running.

That's why piracy is rampant, it is the developers own fault.

Valve does NOT suffer from piracy, because they put reasonable deals on their games, and have many price reduction sales. EA on the other hand charges ridiculous amounts, and don't have sales. They're scum.

That's bull. 

If you don't like the way a game is marketed or sold, don't buy. You're not justified in stealing.

What you just said is bull. Piracy isn't classed as theft. It's illegal sure but it's not stealing or theft, theft/stealing is depriving someone of a possession, piracy doesn't do this, it creates a copy of the original, the original owner still has thier game.

And how are piraters not justified? There are many reasons why piracy happens. Overpricing for example. A bluray box set of a television series often costs hundreds of dollars. Who in their right mind would pay for that? Why does the customer have to wait for 1 or 2 years for this box set to finally be on the shelves?

Why bother with DRM? It's completely inconvenient and unnecessary, and it's punishing the legitimate customer. Pirates can get around it easily.

Speak with your wallet. It is the greatest way to get your point across. Believe me, piracy is not ruining the PC indusrty, you're certainly brainswashed into believing that tripe though.

I certainly don't buy a game if I feel it doesn't deserve my money. For the record, I did buy Skyrim, I enjoyed it immensely. I did not buy Assassins creed 2 however, I pirated it, because Ubisoft doesn't deserve any money for f*cking PC players in the ass.

[mornegroth]

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

Commodore Q wrote...

booohoo hooo , stop crying you idiot. The game just gets pirated on PC so why bother putting so much effort into making that version better when you're just going to get it stolen.

Pirating doesn't work that way, developers want you to believe this though.

About 95% of people who pirate a game wouldn't have bought it in the first place.

Piracy is not an excuse for a crap game for PC.

None of this changes the fact that piracy is ruining developers and making PC an unviable platform.

No, piracy is not ruining the PC market. For gods sake, read my post, it says exactly why. Only 5% of piraters would have bought it in the product in the first place.

Want to know why there is piracy? because it offers a better service than bullcrap like DRM and Origin. It's 100% free, get it in the comfort of your home, no always online protection crap that punishes the legitimate customer, and very fast. It takes about 1 hour to download a copy of Skyrim, copy and paste a couple files around, and voila, you have Skyrim for free, and it took about 1 hour, and you don't need to have steam running.

That's why piracy is rampant, it is the developers own fault.

Valve does NOT suffer from piracy, because they put reasonable deals on their games, and have many price reduction sales. EA on the other hand charges ridiculous amounts, and don't have sales. They're scum.

I doubt that these opinions of yours are even verifyable.

If they're not verifyable then where are you getting yours from?

[Demigod]

please these console v pc wars are silly. Yes we pc can have much better looking games with more effects better animation and so on. That does not mean the consoles are to blame when these expectations are not met.
It is bioware that decides what to target and what if anything to upgrade for pc. it is not the consoles fault. It is a simple cost decision at bioware. Sale on pc V cost in time and money to add extras (or recompile levels with better textures and add effects) Obviously from the demo bio doesn't feel the cost of pc is worth it.
Blame bio if you want it isnt the console fault.

[JerZey CJ]

Am I the only one who finds it weird that the PC Elitists call themselves the "Master Race"? Hmm, what other group of people were obsessed with being the "Master Race"?

[tetrisblock4x1]

Well I could show you loads of credible data that indicates that piracy is indeed ruining the PC as a gaming platform but that would be awfully rude of me and I don't think it'd change anything. Enjoy your bubble of false security.

[mornegroth]

I'm not trolling you. Go ahead.

[FRANCESCO84Inn]

hey, all platform its affected from pirated, and this not its the motivation of not release pc game or good pc porting,

i'm pc gamer, and i'm work on pc, i'm Architetural student and i'm work in 3d modelling program.

so i pay game for play, and play only sci-fi title, so i have a restricted type of games.

[tetrisblock4x1]

mornegroth wrote...


If they're not verifyable then where are you getting yours from?

Tweakguides.

[Duncaaaaaan]

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

Well I could show you loads of credible data that indicates that piracy is indeed ruining the PC as a gaming platform but that would be awfully rude of me and I don't think it'd change anything. Enjoy your bubble of false security.

No go on, show me. My curiosity is piqued. I want to see this proof that piracy is ruining the industry.

Unless it's quotations from developers lying through their teeth.

[Blarty]

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

Bioware is aiming this game specifically at the casual console crowd that likes to play mindless games like COD, but the console players never asked for this in the first place.

I absolutely agree with you there -  you know better weapons that are unlocked at higher levels, ability to customise your weapon with different upgrades and ammo types, big set pieces, explosions... exactly the kinds of things that are in, as you say, mindless, games like Call of Duty....





.....oh and all these things were also in Mass Effect 1


Also dumbing it down like Dragon Age 2..... like repeatedly using the same dungeons and level layouts even though they're in different areas and made by various different races in different eras etc.... 





.....oh and these things were also in Mass Effect 1

Irony is such sweet sorrow

[NPH11]

string3r wrote...

Except Mass Effect was on consoles first.

And mastered on the PC 

[Perlicka]

J0HNL3I wrote...
lol Elitists "im better than you because of what platform i play my games on" your not superior for playing on a diffrent platform than others, the fact that you think you are is laughable.

I'm not reading every topic on this forum, but most time i see this kind of speaking  its from console gamers

I don't feel that im better then you or anyone, just because i spend more money on my hobbies , but pc's hw is allways better then consoles hw 
and only thing i want are games suitable for pc like graphic or controls at least
I like ME1 more then Me2 not only for story, inventory or skill tree  , but possibility to map keys to actions like squad window or journal

or its too much i want from todays games ? probably yes

[littlezack]

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

littlezack wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

Commodore Q wrote...

booohoo hooo , stop crying you idiot. The game just gets pirated on PC so why bother putting so much effort into making that version better when you're just going to get it stolen.

Pirating doesn't work that way, developers want you to believe this though.

About 95% of people who pirate a game wouldn't have bought it in the first place.

Piracy is not an excuse for a crap game for PC.

None of this changes the fact that piracy is ruining developers and making PC an unviable platform.

No, piracy is not ruining the PC market. For gods sake, read my post, it says exactly why. Only 5% of piraters would have bought it in the product in the first place.

Want to know why there is piracy? because it offers a better service than bullcrap like DRM and Origin. It's 100% free, get it in the comfort of your home, no always online protection crap that punishes the legitimate customer, and very fast. It takes about 1 hour to download a copy of Skyrim, copy and paste a couple files around, and voila, you have Skyrim for free, and it took about 1 hour, and you don't need to have steam running.

That's why piracy is rampant, it is the developers own fault.

Valve does NOT suffer from piracy, because they put reasonable deals on their games, and have many price reduction sales. EA on the other hand charges ridiculous amounts, and don't have sales. They're scum.

That's bull. 

If you don't like the way a game is marketed or sold, don't buy. You're not justified in stealing.

What you just said is bull. Piracy isn't classed as theft. It's illegal sure but it's not stealing or theft, theft/stealing is depriving someone of a possession, piracy doesn't do this, it creates a copy of the original, the original owner still has thier game.

And how are piraters not justified? There are many reasons why piracy happens. Overpricing for example. A bluray box set of a television series often costs hundreds of dollars. Who in their right mind would pay for that? Why does the customer have to wait for 1 or 2 years for this box set to finally be on the shelves?

Why bother with DRM? It's completely inconvenient and unnecessary, and it's punishing the legitimate customer. Pirates can get around it easily.

Speak with your wallet. It is the greatest way to get your point across. Believe me, piracy is not ruining the PC indusrty, you're certainly brainswashed into believing that tripe though.

I certainly don't buy a game if I feel it doesn't deserve my money. For the record, I did buy Skyrim, I enjoyed it immensely. I did not buy Assassins creed 2 however, I pirated it, because Ubisoft doesn't deserve any money for f*cking PC players in the ass.

If you don't pay for the game, you shouldn't be allowed to play it. Video games aren't a nescessity or a right like eating or being able to vote - they are a luxury. If you don't like a product you don't buy a product - that's how capitalism works. Doing things illegally just makes things worse for you and encourages companies to take actions against it. And they are probably not going to be actions you care much for because - surprise, surprise - when you screw people over, they tend to want to screw you back.

Modifié par littlezack, 15 février 2012 - 01:00 .

[Nomanor]

Warden130 wrote...

Ohh, its you again. Excuse me while i laugh at your PC Elitist fanboyism yet again.

go be jealous and poor elsewhere

[Duncaaaaaan]

littlezack wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

littlezack wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

Commodore Q wrote...

booohoo hooo , stop crying you idiot. The game just gets pirated on PC so why bother putting so much effort into making that version better when you're just going to get it stolen.

Pirating doesn't work that way, developers want you to believe this though.

About 95% of people who pirate a game wouldn't have bought it in the first place.

Piracy is not an excuse for a crap game for PC.

None of this changes the fact that piracy is ruining developers and making PC an unviable platform.

No, piracy is not ruining the PC market. For gods sake, read my post, it says exactly why. Only 5% of piraters would have bought it in the product in the first place.

Want to know why there is piracy? because it offers a better service than bullcrap like DRM and Origin. It's 100% free, get it in the comfort of your home, no always online protection crap that punishes the legitimate customer, and very fast. It takes about 1 hour to download a copy of Skyrim, copy and paste a couple files around, and voila, you have Skyrim for free, and it took about 1 hour, and you don't need to have steam running.

That's why piracy is rampant, it is the developers own fault.

Valve does NOT suffer from piracy, because they put reasonable deals on their games, and have many price reduction sales. EA on the other hand charges ridiculous amounts, and don't have sales. They're scum.

That's bull. 

If you don't like the way a game is marketed or sold, don't buy. You're not justified in stealing.

What you just said is bull. Piracy isn't classed as theft. It's illegal sure but it's not stealing or theft, theft/stealing is depriving someone of a possession, piracy doesn't do this, it creates a copy of the original, the original owner still has thier game.

And how are piraters not justified? There are many reasons why piracy happens. Overpricing for example. A bluray box set of a television series often costs hundreds of dollars. Who in their right mind would pay for that? Why does the customer have to wait for 1 or 2 years for this box set to finally be on the shelves?

Why bother with DRM? It's completely inconvenient and unnecessary, and it's punishing the legitimate customer. Pirates can get around it easily.

Speak with your wallet. It is the greatest way to get your point across. Believe me, piracy is not ruining the PC indusrty, you're certainly brainswashed into believing that tripe though.

I certainly don't buy a game if I feel it doesn't deserve my money. For the record, I did buy Skyrim, I enjoyed it immensely. I did not buy Assassins creed 2 however, I pirated it, because Ubisoft doesn't deserve any money for f*cking PC players in the ass.

If you don't pay for the game, you shouldn't be allowed to play it. Video games aren't a nescessity or a right like eating or being able to vote. If you don't like a product you don't buy a product - that's how capitalism works. Doing things illegally just makes things worse for you and encourages companies to take actions against it.

Sounds to me like you're not a PC gamer.

PC gamers would understand exactly the point I'm trying to make here. And it's just going right over your head.

Cya.

[Mendelevosa]

 

[Duncaaaaaan]

Blarty wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

Bioware is aiming this game specifically at the casual console crowd that likes to play mindless games like COD, but the console players never asked for this in the first place.

I absolutely agree with you there -  you know better weapons that are unlocked at higher levels, ability to customise your weapon with different upgrades and ammo types, big set pieces, explosions... exactly the kinds of things that are in, as you say, mindless, games like Call of Duty....





.....oh and all these things were also in Mass Effect 1


Also dumbing it down like Dragon Age 2..... like repeatedly using the same dungeons and level layouts even though they're in different areas and made by various different races in different eras etc.... 





.....oh and these things were also in Mass Effect 1

Irony is such sweet sorrow

What the hell is ironic about my post?

I said yes bioware is making the game for the console type of player. And then I said console players don't actually ask for this. It's just happening.

I think you better look up the definition of a word before you go throwing it around in an attempt to look intelligent.

[tetrisblock4x1]

http://www.tweakguid...m/Piracy_1.html

It's a lot to read at once, so you should make sure you have a couple of hours of free time before diving in.

[littlezack]

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

littlezack wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

littlezack wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

Commodore Q wrote...

booohoo hooo , stop crying you idiot. The game just gets pirated on PC so why bother putting so much effort into making that version better when you're just going to get it stolen.

Pirating doesn't work that way, developers want you to believe this though.

About 95% of people who pirate a game wouldn't have bought it in the first place.

Piracy is not an excuse for a crap game for PC.

None of this changes the fact that piracy is ruining developers and making PC an unviable platform.

No, piracy is not ruining the PC market. For gods sake, read my post, it says exactly why. Only 5% of piraters would have bought it in the product in the first place.

Want to know why there is piracy? because it offers a better service than bullcrap like DRM and Origin. It's 100% free, get it in the comfort of your home, no always online protection crap that punishes the legitimate customer, and very fast.
It takes about 1 hour to download a copy of Skyrim, copy and paste a couple files around, and voila, you have Skyrim for free, and it took about 1 hour, and you don't need to have steam running.

That's why piracy is rampant, it is the developers own fault.

Valve does NOT suffer from piracy, because they put reasonable deals on their games, and have many price reduction sales. EA on the other hand charges ridiculous amounts, and don't have sales. They're scum.

That's bull. 

If you don't like the way a game is marketed or sold, don't buy. You're not justified in stealing.

What you just said is bull. Piracy isn't classed as theft. It's illegal sure but it's not stealing or theft, theft/stealing is depriving someone of a possession, piracy doesn't do this, it creates a copy of the original, the original owner still has thier game.

And how are piraters not justified? There are many reasons why piracy happens. Overpricing for example. A bluray box set of a television series often costs hundreds of dollars. Who in their right mind would pay for that? Why does the customer have to wait for 1 or 2 years for this box set to finally be on the shelves?

Why bother with DRM? It's completely inconvenient and unnecessary, and it's punishing the legitimate customer. Pirates can get around it easily.

Speak with your wallet. It is the greatest way to get your point across. Believe me, piracy is not ruining the PC indusrty, you're certainly brainswashed into believing that tripe though.

I certainly don't buy a game if I feel it doesn't deserve my money. For the record, I did buy Skyrim, I enjoyed it immensely. I did not buy Assassins creed 2 however, I pirated it, because Ubisoft doesn't deserve any money for f*cking PC players in the ass.

If you don't pay for the game, you shouldn't be allowed to play it. Video games aren't a nescessity or a right like eating or being able to vote. If you don't like a product you don't buy a product - that's how capitalism works. Doing things illegally just makes things worse for you and encourages companies to take actions against it.

Sounds to me like you're not a PC gamer.

PC gamers would understand exactly the point I'm trying to make here. And it's just going right over your head.

Cya.

Oh, get over yourself. I play games on my computer all the time. This type of crap was dumb in the SNES vs. Genesis era and it's just as dumb, now.

'A PC gamer would understand'. My ass.

Modifié par littlezack, 15 février 2012 - 01:03 .