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[Guldhun2]

Why did the Reapers not target the Normandy with their super death ray but instead shoot down the two worthless shuttles? They could have won right there.

[LOLandStuff]

Because then Shepard would die and there wouldn't be a Mass Effect 3.
Is that what you want?

[Guldhun2]

LOLandStuff wrote...

Because then Shepard would die and there wouldn't be a Mass Effect 3.
Is that what you want?

Well , then why isn't god mode on at all times? I could die in ME2.

Modifié par Guldhun2, 15 février 2012 - 02:38 .

[Forst1999]

The Reaper in question wasn't sure about the whole "we might want Shep alive" thing and missed it's chance.
EDIT: Not so much alive, as "we want the body". Just a theory. If the overly-powerful enemy doesn't make a mistake now and then, the good guys never have a chance.

Modifié par Forst1999, 15 février 2012 - 02:40 .

[Fogg]

stealth...

[LostHH]

Because the Reapers want to romance Shepard.

That's the ending, the last 3 games were a daydream of Shep as he tries to forget the messy divorce from his wife Reaper Shepardhe's currently going through.
Maybe >_>

Modifié par LostHH, 15 février 2012 - 02:43 .

[Guldhun2]

Forst1999 wrote...

The Reaper in question wasn't sure about the whole "we might want Shep alive" thing and missed it's chance.
EDIT: Not so much alive, as "we want the body". Just a theory. If the overly-powerful enemy doesn't make a mistake now and then, the good guys never have a chance.

When you make dumb mistakes like that you are not overly-powerful but dumb as a brick.

[Taleroth]

Reaper intelligence has always failed under examination. I mean, just imagine if Sovereign had done anything in ME1 before the final battle.

Or if the Reaper's initial invasion plan had a decent backup.

Modifié par Taleroth, 15 février 2012 - 02:44 .

[GnusmasTHX]

Who said they were smart?

The Reapers are just like any other race in the galaxy, just super old, super powerful.

[Guldhun2]

Taleroth wrote...

Reaper intelligence has always failed under examination. I mean, just imagine if Sovereign had done anything in ME1 before the final battle.

Then why do they fear them? They're about as intelligent as a chicken.

[JeffZero]

Id speaks truth.

[Forst1999]

@Gulhun2
You'd fear a legion of giant space-faring chickens!

[Whammo]

Because Bioware wrote themselves into a corner and realized that there was no possible way that Shepard would be able leave Earth without the Reapers appearing incredibly incompetent.

There was a reason Bioware decided to sacrifice a child at that point and it wasn't "to symbolizes Shepard's helplessness" or some other nonsense. It was to draw attention from the fact that the most advanced fleet in the galaxy had just failed to take any action against a single, stationary vessel.

[Dutch105]

I fear that people would flock to BSN to complain if Mass Effect 3 ended within the first 20 mins of the game, because the Reapers destroyed the Normandy.

Sometimes, game mechanics have to come in front of "established lore".

[The_Real_Lee]

Taleroth wrote...

Reaper intelligence has always failed under examination. I mean, just imagine if Sovereign had done anything in ME1 before the final battle.

Or if the Reaper's initial invasion plan had a decent backup.

The Reapers did have a backup plan, it was the Alpha relay that Shep destroyed, That would have put them in the center of the citadel.

And Sovereign did do things before the final battle, he took control of Saren, orchestrated the Rachni Wars, took control of the Heretical Geth, and did everything in it's power to make sure nobody of importance knew what it was. All of the flaws before ME3 in Reaper intelligence aren't flaws, they just failed to realize that Shep ruins all of their plans.

[GnusmasTHX]

So... Sovereign not going to Virmire or Ilos to just kill Shepard wasn't a flaw? If he had killed Shepard, he'd have all the time in the world to invade the Citadel, without Shepard up Saren's butt.

Modifié par GnusmasTHX, 15 février 2012 - 03:06 .

[Darth Death]

The fact that the reapers invaded earth first shows they're not very intelligent. It seemed to be a personal motive than a logically one. Emotions can lead to foolish choices.

[AlexXIV]

Well if you played through ME1 and ME2 and never questioned Reaper intelligence then you have not been thinking much. Yeah they are not that smart.

[Poison_Berrie]

Darth Death wrote...

The fact that the reapers invaded earth first shows they're not very intelligent. It seemed to be a personal motive than a logically one. Emotions can lead to foolish choices.

They certainly aren't the first. *cough* Batarian husk *cough*

Keep in mind that most relays only have limited range, thus you can't just go from the edge of the galaxy straight to the Citadel.

Modifié par Poison_Berrie, 15 février 2012 - 03:13 .

[DragonRageGT]

Whammo wrote...

Because Bioware wrote themselves into a corner and realized that there was no possible way that Shepard would be able leave Earth without the Reapers appearing incredibly incompetent.

There was a reason Bioware decided to sacrifice a child at that point and it wasn't "to symbolizes Shepard's helplessness" or some other nonsense. It was to draw attention from the fact that the most advanced fleet in the galaxy had just failed to take any action against a single, stationary vessel.

A stationary spacecraft with an Advanced Reaper-made Identify Friend/Foe installed? Let me guess, someone stole your sweet roll?

[Kinthalis ThornBlade]

Uhm... have you guys watched an alien invasion movie recently? Or ever?

This is a problem ALL such fiction faces.

If an alien civilization had the technology to cross interstellar space, they would have to be so ridiculously advanced in their technology that if they wanted to do us in, they could. Without ANY issue.

There would be no way some d-bag with a mac could write a "virus" that takes down their ships, there's no way F-16's could take out their vehicles, there's no way we could do ANYTHING to stop them.

BUT, people don't want to watch an action movie where the aliens nuke earth from 10 million miles away and then the credits roll.

Same situation here. The reapers, as hyper intelligent machines, having decimated the most advanced organic civilizations for untold millenia, should be able to easily defeat all the current species in the ME's "universe", but that wouldn't make for a fun ending, would it?

You'll have to learn to suspend disbelief. They will make mistakes and take stupid actions, and be, in the end, far weaker that they should be, because otherwise the game could only end with the death of all advanced life, and a new reaper cycle continuing....


Hmmmm... which actually wouldn't be abad ending

Modifié par Kinthalis ThornBlade, 15 février 2012 - 03:23 .

[chengthao]

Schrijver wrote...

stealth...

except the Reapers can detect them (Collectors used Reaper tech)

[Guldhun2]

DragonRageGT wrote...

Whammo wrote...

Because Bioware wrote themselves into a corner and realized that there was no possible way that Shepard would be able leave Earth without the Reapers appearing incredibly incompetent.

There was a reason Bioware decided to sacrifice a child at that point and it wasn't "to symbolizes Shepard's helplessness" or some other nonsense. It was to draw attention from the fact that the most advanced fleet in the galaxy had just failed to take any action against a single, stationary vessel.

A stationary spacecraft with an Advanced Reaper-made Identify Friend/Foe installed? Let me guess, someone stole your sweet roll?

Advanced Reapers have no eyes? That's not very advanced.

[GnusmasTHX]

Kinthalis ThornBlade wrote...

Uhm... have you guys watched an alien invasion movie recently? Or ever?

This is a problem ALL such fiction faces.

If an alien civilization had the technology to cross interstellar space, they would have to be so ridiculously advanced in their technology that if they wanted to do us in, they could. Without ANY issue.

There would be no way some d-bag with a mac could write a "virus" that takes down their ships, there's no way F-16's could take out their vehicles, there's no way we could do ANYTHING to stop them.

BUT, people don't want to watch an action movie where the aliens nuke earth from 10 million miles away and then the credits roll.

Same situation here. The reapers, as hyper intelligent machines, having decimated the most advanced organic civilizations for untold millenia, should be able to easily defeat all the current species in the ME's "universe", but that wouldn't make for a fun ending, would it?

You'll have to learn to suspend disbelief. They will make mistakes and take stupid actions, and be, in the end, far weaker that they should be, because otherwise the game could only end with the death of all advanced life, and a new reaper cycle continuing....

But bacteria... and water.

[chengthao]

Dutch105 wrote...

I fear that people would flock to BSN to complain if Mass Effect 3 ended within the first 20 mins of the game, because the Reapers destroyed the Normandy.

Sometimes, game mechanics have to come in front of "established lore".

or maybe they could've just done a scene that made more sense