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DragonRageGT wrote...
A stationary spacecraft with an Advanced Reaper-made Identify Friend/Foe installed?

That thing is still operational? Why would the Reapers not change the key on their end?

Quite frankly, the only thing the Normandy should be broadcasting right now is "I'm the guy who stole your old one."

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DragonRageGT wrote...

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Because Bioware wrote themselves into a corner and realized that there was no possible way that Shepard would be able leave Earth without the Reapers appearing incredibly incompetent.

There was a reason Bioware decided to sacrifice a child at that point and it wasn't "to symbolizes Shepard's helplessness" or some other nonsense. It was to draw attention from the fact that the most advanced fleet in the galaxy had just failed to take any action against a single, stationary vessel.


A stationary spacecraft with an Advanced Reaper-made Identify Friend/Foe installed? Let me guess, someone stole your sweet roll?


the Normandy had that when it jumped through the Omega 4 relay and the collectors were still able it indentify them

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Advanced Reapers have no eyes? That's not very advanced.


Their "Eyes" were without their "Occulus"... arf arf arf™

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My question is more, why did the Reapers come down into the city at all? Why didn't they bombard the planet from orbit? Hit it with a mass accelerator, kinetic harpoons, even plain old-fashioned nukes.

I haven't read any leaks, but unless it's revealed that the Reaper's goal is something other than destruction, they're going about it the wrong way.

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Dilandau3000 wrote...

My question is more, why did the Reapers come down into the city at all? Why didn't they bombard the planet from orbit? Hit it with a mass accelerator, kinetic harpoons, even plain old-fashioned nukes.

I haven't read any leaks, but unless it's revealed that the Reaper's goal is something other than destruction, they're going about it the wrong way.


You don't need to read leaks. You only need to play ME1 and ME2 to know they want to drink us.

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Dilandau3000 wrote...

My question is more, why did the Reapers come down into the city at all? Why didn't they bombard the planet from orbit? Hit it with a mass accelerator, kinetic harpoons, even plain old-fashioned nukes.

I haven't read any leaks, but unless it's revealed that the Reaper's goal is something other than destruction, they're going about it the wrong way.


they want to harvest life, not destroy it

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chengthao wrote...

they want to harvest life, not destroy it


And all their tecnology too. Orbital Bombardment wouldn't do them much good.

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chengthao wrote...

Dilandau3000 wrote...

My question is more, why did the Reapers come down into the city at all? Why didn't they bombard the planet from orbit? Hit it with a mass accelerator, kinetic harpoons, even plain old-fashioned nukes.

I haven't read any leaks, but unless it's revealed that the Reaper's goal is something other than destruction, they're going about it the wrong way.


they want to harvest life, not destroy it

Then they're also going about it the wrong way, since they're still killing people by the millions with those lasers. If they were doing what the collectors did in the previous game that would've made more sense.

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chengthao wrote...

Schrijver wrote...

stealth...


except the Reapers can detect them (Collectors used Reaper tech)


The Normandy does have a functioning Reaper IFF.   So they wouldn't be targetted immediately by the Reapers.  

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"Why do we fear them?"

Good question... the Geth certainly don't.

Neither does my Shepard... they're insanely deadly - there's no question, but I wasn't "afraid" of the Geth in ME 1... nor the Batarians or the Rachni... or any other enemy. Not "afraid" of the Reapers either.

One of the minor points of ME - is that biological entities have a tendency to do stupid crap like deify a bunch of space cuttlefish and blow their 'unstoppability' way out of proportions...

Again... Legion criticizes you during his loyalty mission for this very thing.

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Dilandau3000 wrote...

chengthao wrote...

Dilandau3000 wrote...

My question is more, why did the Reapers come down into the city at all? Why didn't they bombard the planet from orbit? Hit it with a mass accelerator, kinetic harpoons, even plain old-fashioned nukes.

I haven't read any leaks, but unless it's revealed that the Reaper's goal is something other than destruction, they're going about it the wrong way.


they want to harvest life, not destroy it

Then they're also going about it the wrong way, since they're still killing people by the millions with those lasers. If they were doing what the collectors did in the previous game that would've made more sense.


Because the Collector's didn't kill people either.

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SonvarTheMighty wrote...

chengthao wrote...

Schrijver wrote...

stealth...


except the Reapers can detect them (Collectors used Reaper tech)


The Normandy does have a functioning Reaper IFF.   So they wouldn't be targetted immediately by the Reapers.  


the Collectors detected them easily enough when the Normandy jumped the Omega 4 Relay

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SonvarTheMighty wrote...

chengthao wrote...

Schrijver wrote...

stealth...


except the Reapers can detect them (Collectors used Reaper tech)


The Normandy does have a functioning Reaper IFF.   So they wouldn't be targetted immediately by the Reapers.  

If the reapers didn't change the IFF codes, now that would be stupid.

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Simply because only Shepard can save humanity.

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SonvarTheMighty wrote...

The Normandy does have a functioning Reaper IFF.   So they wouldn't be targetted immediately by the Reapers.  

There's no reason it should still work. IFFs work on encryption. If you change the key, then all of the old ones should cease to be valid. And the key gets changed regularly. Which actually means it should never have worked in the first place.

You've made me realize the Reapers are yet dumber than I thought.

I can imagine it now
"Hey, there's a guy broadcasting in the encryption key from 50,000 years ago."
"Oh, it must be Bob. He's just a little slow."

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Because the shuttles were defenseless close targets. The Normandy was larger and further away. The Reaper or whatever it was walking along went for what would be a surefire hit rather than go after the larger ship that could have much better protection.

Seems perfectly logical to me, go for the sure thing.

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Medhia Nox wrote...

"Why do we fear them?"

Good question... the Geth certainly don't.

Neither does my Shepard... they're insanely deadly - there's no question, but I wasn't "afraid" of the Geth in ME 1... nor the Batarians or the Rachni... or any other enemy. Not "afraid" of the Reapers either.

One of the minor points of ME - is that biological entities have a tendency to do stupid crap like deify a bunch of space cuttlefish and blow their 'unstoppability' way out of proportions...

Again... Legion criticizes you during his loyalty mission for this very thing.



They're not insanely deadly. All we have to do is send shuttles at them to shoot while our battleships fly behind them and shoot them in the back. We send shuttles or we die, that's the plan.

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Their average IQ is 90. It's not so strange they don't have any genuine plan. They work in numbers and with their strength.

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Sapienti wrote...

Because the shuttles were defenseless close targets. The Normandy was larger and further away. The Reaper or whatever it was walking along went for what would be a surefire hit rather than go after the larger ship that could have much better protection.

Seems perfectly logical to me, go for the sure thing.


or you attack the warship that poses a "real" threat to you, you don't "shoot civilians when there is a soldier with a gun" (*note i'm not some psycho, just using an analogy)

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Guldhun2 wrote...

They're not insanely deadly. All we have to do is send shuttles at them to shoot while our battleships fly behind them and shoot them in the back. We send shuttles or we die, that's the plan.

Women and children first. It's a necessary sacrifice.

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@Guldhun2: Interesting how you ignore all the combat vessels being shot down.

Look man - you're just spewing your disapproval over a bunch of threads - I'm not going to really bother much.

Maybe the stupid Reaper didn't even "see" the Normandy. Just because the camera is fixed on the Normandy for the audience (duh) - doesn't mean the Reaper has its attentions focused on it.

For everyone's complaining about cliches... people sure do love their enemies to be all powerful and perfect.

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 15 février 2012 - 03:40 .


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They probably didn't even know that Shepard was on the Normandy, therefore they didn't see much importance in the ship. Not to mention, the Normandy was better protected and farther away from the Reaper than the two shuttles.

Modifié par Mendelevosa, 15 février 2012 - 03:42 .


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Darth Death wrote...

The fact that the reapers invaded earth first shows they're not very intelligent. It seemed to be a personal motive than a logically one. Emotions can lead to foolish choices.


But this only makes it worse! If they invaded Earth first because they were pissed with humanity, then why did that one Reaper not take the opportunity to kill the very person that had to make them jump hoops?

You'd think the Reapers have some sort of massive collective database that deals with everything Shepard related, considering the Normandy killed Sovereign, the Normandy attacked the Collector base, Harbinger met Shepard on numerous occassions and even hunted her down by taking on Collector bodies, Sovereign conversed personally with Shepard etc.

All the Reapers in the galaxy know who Shepard is. No doubt about it. But this one Reaper decides that dramatic effect is more important than prudence.

Makes no sense.

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That Reaper was made out off a previous cycles undesirables.

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Medhia Nox

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Isn't it stated plenty of times that they hit Earth because it was "next" on the galactic scene?