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[The Enforcer OS]

Subject says it all please add Multiplayer support without EA's Servers! If you're confident that this new mode is awesome, I believe I would enjoy it as would many other Mass Effect fans, but the internet and EA servers should not be the only method to enjoy it especially if many people still actually enjoy gaming together.  I will not be participating in that mode until Bioware releases local support.

Thank You!


Supporting Arguments
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Split Screen, System Link, LAN still important facets of multiplayer gaming!
- Modern games even the likes of Halo and Gears of War still include split screen and system link options. Why? Because social gaming is still prevalent.  If a game is built correctly it still sells well.

EA Servers are not reliable!
- Want to play a classic EA console game? Wait there aren't any.  Any game built with dependence on EA's servers can never be a classic title because the act EA shutting down their servers for the title utterly breaks functionality within the game.  Developers may not care about this in the short run, but all they do is build disposable titles it is eventually going to backfire in terms of consumer respect.

Key Features are being withheld!
- When a consumer purchases a game everything included should be accessible shy of DLC & Online privileges.  Multiplayer games should not require a third party especially if they are already using one via a console online service.

Not all games follow this path!
- It could be said that all new games or even all EA games are adopting this Online Pass / EA Server methodology, but Syndicate is not adopting an Online Pass to lower "Barriers to Entry". If Bioware cared about getting more people on board with this new feature that obviously its excited about why not allow more people to expierence it? Why prevent people who care about Mass Effect from playing it with their friends in the same room.  Is Bioware about producing antisocial behavior?

*The argument is not about the Online Pass, but adding more hurdles just for players to experience cooperative multiplayer.

It is not too late in the development Process
- Based on the uproar made about the many errors in the latest Mass Effect novel.  Supposedly the move to fix this has been addressed to support the fans.  Is this a move to support the fans or to save face?  If it is the former than there is no reason why Bioware can't release a post launch patch to add local multiplayer or include it in an upgraded edition. Sure books are different, but if a company is willing to admit mistakes or acknowledge fan feedback after a product is released the same can be accomplished for a video game.

Offline Does Not Impair All DLC Sales
- Better to make money from people who buy DLC to play with it offline, than lose the sale
altogether for those who won't pay for on Online Pass OR DLC.

Bioware claims to Support its community
- If this is true, please back that up by adding a feature that many members of that community would love to have to enjoy the Mass Effect experience.


Bioware Community Members in Favor of Local Multiplayer Support
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The Enforcer OS
Mass Effect Player
AcidGlow
SkyeHawk89
Xerxes52
Icinix
BAOBAB AOTEAROA
Forsythia
Lars10178
Abisco
dcal31
KiddDaBeauty
ScorpSt
Astarothkun
Tony_Knightcrawler
Siven80
Lizzy87
Luc0s
Eudaemonium
nightcobra8928
kregano
DarkKnightCuron
CoolerDD
Jsxdf
Last Vizard
CannonLars
Relix28
Arrow70
Finis Valorum
TheDarkRats
Cathey
Iamnotahater
Mythanblood
megaprime33
Vez04
DingoEffect
Mr. Gogeta34
Kalms
Liisi
Mister Mida
Lyvef1re
XDMMX
Dewart
Nizzemancer
Tezlaa
Jotamide
Legionari2
Random citizen
_symphony
nexworks
--
VirtualAlex
Adugan
SnakeSNMF
wirelesstkd
Descedent
teek-of-doom
AcidRelic
Vigil11
chengthao
Reeves88
Phategod1
Muezick
movieguyabw
Grumpy-Mcfart
Verkir
Arbiter156
Bigboy1173
adamashepard
Akaranz
phbruintjes
Cody211282
Paw The Ox
Sammuthegreat
DJStarstryker
madclaw
Eumerin
Aulis Vaara
Elegana
monsieur_wiseman
Repearized Miranda
Nkromelow
AlbinaTekla
ValendianKnight
RamirezWolfen
No bounds
Kira3
XGundam05
Ayanna Nyx
AzaggThoth
Jellyfish Opera
slyguy200
LaurenShepard-N7
Sil
rabidhanar
Seracen
grimlock122
Drummernate
DarthSquishie
Maias227
Rogue1982
Krogangreetings
Pockydon
Gisle Aune
VistaSoldier
Urrnot Repps
siltsonata
XoningOut
DiebytheSword

(Names added from Stowy's thread. Total: 124)
StowyMcStowStow
dreman9999
Kruiser666
Lumikki
phantomrachie24
DeathDragon185
Geth_Prime
S.A.K
Ravenous26
Siansonea II
Blaze Warlord
javierabegazo (Moderator)
LittleDiegito
DiebytheSword
Homey C-Dawg
sael_feman
Thompson family
DarkKnightCuron
AdmiralCheez
Vegos
IsaacShep
lazuli
Sesshomaru47
Kriztofer
chris2365
Curunen
Kenzie1100
Sheepie Crusher
Eag07
Wrathra
Dudeman315
Esquin
wizardryforever
Drone223
Golden Owl
Mi-Chan
StephanieBengal
armass
FSOAH
cindercatz
JaceTAce
BatmanPWNS
avengeASTRID
Axelstall
SuperNova42
Midey
Akon
Forst1999
Jellyfish Opera
Ricinator
DarthSliver
--
Arijharn
comrade8472
rabidphoenix
guydoli
hotdogbsg
Ariadnee
TheDaniellasaur
-Skorpious-
BogdanV
M1A2madmike
Mwames
Alenkosexualtendencies
GuardianAngel470
milena87
Changonauta
The Ultimate Jawbreaker
EsterCloat
Alex524
Air36723
Eximious0
Hello Man
lightsnow13
Patius Mehaffius
Chibi Buizel
Abrams216
Clara Shepard
Xannerz
Beliar86
CerberusWarrior
Village Idiot
JediMaster_Murph
SpectreWarrior
AwakenxBenihime
DxWill10
Shifty Assassin
Fates end
Tugga_gott
FallTooDovahkiin
Tyrell C-Brown
Starfishsicko
MistyStar
Storm Farron
log1x_dr4g0n
forsaken_solider
Jedi Sentinel Arian
tks
Mikeyzs94
Eclipse_9990
Nashiktal
pmac_tk421
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N7Infernox
PsychoWARD23
xlI ReFLeX lIx
Changonauta
saturos2
Sinnerj117
Quarters Alpha
ImTheOx
frozngecko
Fiery Phoenix
Enthalpy
RogueMumei
TheDarkRats
megaprime33
JonathonPR
Stephenc13
Armass81
TheZerby
escalinci
av196vad
Ghost-621
Elecbender
Sebbe1337o
Owlynator

What some people still say about local multiplayer!
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Xerxes52 wrote...

Well, they can keep their multiplayer locked behind the pass, but I'd still like to have some bots to fill in offline when EA's servers go down (which they do with alarming regularity).

KiddDaBeauty wrote...

I'm definitely on for some couch multi player. It'd be darn hype to play with friends around me =) When I played ME3 multi player at Gamex, that was exactly how I played it. I had a friend next to me. It was glorious =) Would love to be able to relive that in the retail version without having him to get a tv and his xbox over here.

Astarothkun wrote...

An offline / LAN / Split-screen Multiplayer feature would be great for future gaming experience.
I know from experience that after years of gaming you always go back to those few great titles to play with your friends in multiplayer. Only that is made possible by providing LAN Multiplayer because honestly most online multiplayer options do not survive more than five years.
I want to be able to come back to ME3 Multiplayer whenever I feel like it and not worry about any online functionality being shut down.
Plus it might be old school but me and my friends still come together for some good old LAN sessions without any mentionable internet connection around. We would love to play ME3 then, too.

Lizzy87 wrote...

Sadly this means I won't be able to play online. I've only got an Xbox silver account, and I'm not going to spend the extra money on multiplayer that I can't use with my friends and fiancée because they all have PS3's.

Ideally I'd like splitscreen, that way my fiancée and I are guaranteed to have a good multiplayer game we'll be using for years, and be willing to fork out extra cash for DLC.

UJN wrote...
I rarely play any games online, but playing offline co-op with friends is something I really enjoy. One of the best experiences I've had this generation was playing through Resident Evil 5 with a friend. Offline multiplayer in ME3 would be fantastic.

Jsxdf wrote...

If they don't add LAN or offline support it's going to suck a couple years down the road when we want to play the galaxy at war parts again and can't because EA shut the servers down. That is why dedicated servers (hosting them ourselves) is a good thing

XDMMX wrote...

I live in a rural area where the only form of internet access is terrible dial-up, so I was disappointed to find out that we could only play the new MP mode online.

I loved the fact that Epic made GOW2 and 3 MP playable offline with bots, so that people who cant play online, or those that don't like to play online, can still get the MP experience and have some fun.

Thompson family wrote...

I'm 100 percent for this. I'd love to play ME3 with my kids.

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

However that notion got spread around heard wrong.  Practically the biggest modern shooters have split-screen support

Gears of War
Gears of War 2
Gears of War 3
Halo
Halo Remake
Halo 2
Halo 3
Halo ODST
Halo Reach
Left 4 Dead
Left 4 Dead 2
Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2
Call of Duty BlackOps
Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3
Unreal Tournament 3
Rage
Uncharted 3
Killzone 3
Portal 2

Source / Related Topics
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social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/9051104

social.bioware.com/forum/Mass-Effect-3/Mass-Effect-3-General-Discussion/SplitscreenOffline-Co-op---Show-your-support-8595224-1.html

Modifié par The Enforcer OS, 16 mai 2012 - 08:28 .

[L17grim]

To late now, sorry bro

[The Enforcer OS]

L17grim wrote...

To late now, sorry bro

You didn't read the post did you?

[VirtualAlex]

I would really appreciate it.

[Phoenixblight]

Editing a book =/= is not the same as software development. The game is already gold and this is how its going to play.

[The Enforcer OS]

Phoenixblight wrote...

Editing a book =/= is not the same as software development. The game is already gold and this is how its going to play.

Duh, of course they're not the same. The point is BioWare addressed the issue and corrected it. I know its Gold, the point is to add it post release!

[Phoenixblight]

Sorry I would rather have them work on DLC then adding local MP just for a small minority. Plus when has a game had Local MP as DLC?

[Adugan]

I am in favor of Local Cluster multiplayer support.

[SnakeSNMF]

I support this! Completely.

[The Enforcer OS]

Phoenixblight wrote...

Sorry I would rather have them work on DLC then adding local MP just for a small minority. Plus when has a game had Local MP as DLC?

Minorities still matter when it comes to sales.  It's money not thrown away.   Some people won't purchase DLC if they can't use it either. 

Only known example is Resident Evil 5's Versus mode. It was not available initially (event though we know it was on the disc)  The point being it was a feature added through DLC.

Edit: Thanks for votes, names added.

Modifié par The Enforcer OS, 15 février 2012 - 04:29 .

[wirelesstkd]

I would really like to see this added in the future. For me, even if that came at the expense of some future DLC, it would be worth it (though reasonable people can disagree).

I do recall a dev saying that this was not planned, but that if enough people asked for it that it could be added in later.

[Descedent]

lan support. not splitscreen

[The Enforcer OS]

wirelesstkd wrote...

I would really like to see this added in the future. For me, even if that came at the expense of some future DLC, it would be worth it (though reasonable people can disagree).

I do recall a dev saying that this was not planned, but that if enough people asked for it that it could be added in later.

I do hope that is true.  Hence why I keep speaking up for them to add it.

@Descedent.  I'm grouping everyone together for now just to make sure we get the point across.  I personally want LAN over split screen, but I'd be ecstatic with either if it meant playing it.  Plus splitscreen really wouldn't benefit the PC crew.

Modifié par The Enforcer OS, 15 février 2012 - 04:36 .

[teek-of-doom]

Please add my name to the list!

[Oilking72]

Don't see this happening but you never know.

That list you have there is not exactly a list of thousands were talking about here. There's always going to be a balance between supporting the fans and making them happy and the bottom line. If they've got to do a lot of extra work to make this happen, then it probably won't happen.

[The Enforcer OS]

Oilking72 wrote...

Don't see this happening but you never know.

That list you have there is not exactly a list of thousands were talking about here. There's always going to be a balance between supporting the fans and making them happy and the bottom line. If they've got to do a lot of extra work to make this happen, then it probably won't happen.

Quite true,  I do understand the reality of the situation, but that won't stop me from making every effort I can to rally the troops.     Better to have at least made an effort to see what support there is than give it the 'ole internet try' (which is nothing more than complaining about it and moving on)  

[AcidRelic]

My brother and I would like this also, though we are getting two copies our internet connection is sorta bad and it would be nice to play couch co-op or LAN.

My wife said she would even try it out if she could play on my screen with me LOL.

Modifié par AcidRelic, 15 février 2012 - 04:52 .

[Vigil11]

I'd love that! However, I think this will not happen

[Mr. Gogeta34]

They really should've done it... it makes MP a useless feature to me otherwise.

[ScorpSt]

I support this. I'd especially love it if they made LAN possible between Xbox (or PS3) and PC.

[The Enforcer OS]

PC cross 360 went the way of the dodo in general unfortunately. But LAN needs to happen!

I'm still working on adding names from the other thread, but there's more than I realized. Count is over 100!!

[BatmanPWNS]

Too late, plus what action/shooter game that EA owns has local co-op?

Modifié par BatmanPWNS, 15 février 2012 - 06:26 .

[chengthao]

i have no idea how simple it would be to implement this, maybe they didn't do it b/c it was too challenging on such a short timeframe . . . idk, but i'm going to assume they had a good reason

though i would love local MP

[Luigitornado]

ATTENTION BIOWARE: PLEASE ADD SUGGESTION BOX

*holds up recycling bin*

[The Enforcer OS]

@BatmanPWNS, not too late! Read arguments.

For any who do want to see this happen, is anyone willing to back it up if we had a way to keep this thing rolling. As in the idea of KickStartin' something to prove how much we want it...