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[Chuck Fandango]

When?

After the demo release, when the PC fascists came storming in & started demanding a list as long as my arm for improvements, tweaks & concessions as compensation for the fact it wasn't built especially for them in the first place!
In my eyes PC gamers are professional victims! 

Modifié par Chuck Fandango, 15 février 2012 - 04:19 .

[jcolt]

well i'm highly optimistic about it but if you say anything positive about it theres plenty of ppl who will say your a biodrone your willin to lap up whatever ea puts out etc etc but you know they'll buy the game anyway.

[Matchy Pointy]

Havent it always been like that?

[bluewolv1970]

I think part of the problem is that the list of things not in the demo is longer than what is in it...Bioware is obviously only marketing to the combat crowd. What worries people is why??

[Melra]

PC>Dem rest. We pay moar for our equipment, we should get moar!

[Captain Crash]

A few cynical people on Bioware Social Network isnt going to concern them to much. Especially when you read some of the "complaints".       Complaining for the sake of complaining is an understatement 


Outside here the reception has been really positive.   I thoroughly enjoyed the demo and cant wait to get into ME3 now.  Its going to  be amazing  

[DaBigDragon]

squee365 wrote...

I thought the demo was actually great...No really. I'm starting to think if I should even come here anymore because I know that what I played was good, and I want this game still. Does everyone really think the demo was THAT BAD? Or is it just silly nitpicking?  

Here here!

[KotorEffect3]

Captain Crash wrote...

A few cynical people on Bioware Social Network isnt going to concern them to much. Especially when you read some of the "complaints".       Complaining for the sake of complaining is an understatement 


Outside here the reception has been really positive.   I thoroughly enjoyed the demo and cant wait to get into ME3 now.  Its going to  be amazing  

This is true.  Funny how people are more coherant and rational about Mass Effect outside of the bsn then they are in the BSN.

[CrazyRah]

It's a lot of complaining just for the sake of complaining. Some of the "complaints" are hilarious to read. Ignore the cynical people and it's not so bad

I personally really did enjoy the demo and it's going to be awesome in March

[Chuck Fandango]

Melrache wrote...

PC>Dem rest. We pay moar for our equipment, we should get moar!

See this post as proof of what I said in my previous post! 

Modifié par Chuck Fandango, 15 février 2012 - 04:19 .

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

The sea of negativity sounds like a place in a fantasy book or a rpg

[Lotion Soronarr]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

The whiners are getting dumber every day.

So are the blided fanboys.


Alas, there is morons on both sides. Complaints and counter-complaitns that in the end hold little water.
You will always have those..justified complaints and nitpicking. Trolling and fanboysim. Optimists and pessimists. Etc...

[Justicar]

 Since when has this board been negative?

SINCE ALWAYS

[royceclemens]

squee365 wrote...

royceclemens wrote...

It's been this way since Baldur's Gate II, if some of the old timers are to believed.

You shouldn't worry about the trolls, because the trolls are gonna be here no matter what. They're trolls. That's what they do.

But the people who actually, legitimately have a problem with the game are still talking about it. They may actually mean it when they say "PRE-ORDER CANCELLED!" but they still care on some elemental level, otherwise they wouldn't be here. It's when no one complains at all that BioWare should be terrified.

And you have to rely on your internal barometer on such things anyway. You think you played a great demo? So you did, and thus, you've already won. Because you played a great demo. And they didn't.

Other than that, stick to topics that won't attract the contentious like poo draws flies and ignore the ones who really annoy you. You'll be fine.

Thanks. This is probably the best post I've read on here.

You're too kind.  And you are most welcome.

[deadshame]

Hmm, I loved the demo. You should have seen the hate for ME2 at about this time before it came out.

[terdferguson123]

To all the people who think that the people who are being negative are just ranting I have one thing to ask:

Is it really that hard to believe that people who absolutely loved the first two games would be concerned when the demo of the finale feels like it has taken several steps back from its predecessor? Ignore it all you want, but they have every right to be concerned with how that demo was.

For starters, all of these things are worse than they were in ME2:

- The Animations
- The graphics (outside of the reapers) Characters, backgrounds, enemies all look worse than they did in ME2
- Lack of Dialogue choices... this is kind of what seperates Mass Effect from other sci fi games, is the ability to make your own choices, and the demo had what? 5-6 choices? out of like 50 lines of dialogue from Shepard. Thats only 12% of the total dialogue that is chosen by the player, and that is very un-Mass Effect like.
- The cover mechanic is somehow worse than it was in ME2, I was caught several times jumping back and forth between cover spots because of the way it's setup.
- The entire Earth mission seems to be lacking emotion in any way, almost as if people don't care that the Reapers are attacking. I was of the opinion that the general population didn't know about the Reapers due to the council hiding it. When they do attack, it's almost as if alliance members don't really care. The entire scene lacks emotion, save for the excellent soundtrack. Again, very un-Mass Effect like.

You think these things are something that a huge fan of the series should be concerned about? ME2 was polished like a dream, and this demo in comparison just feels extremely lackluster.

Lastly, don't give me the "It's a demo!" line, a demo should and usually is a portion of the final game that is meant to tempt players into buying the game. It shouldn't be a beta test of an old build of a game that has already gone gold, as much as I would love to believe thats true, I think it's a bit late for that. So, in conclusion we have every right to be concerned, that demo was poor compared to Mass Effect 2, it feels rushed and incomplete. 

It's not negativity, I love this series, just like I love all of Biowares games (yes even DA2). The reason I am so critical of this demo is because I care a lot about the quality of this game, it's the finale of one of the best trilogies in the history of video games and it doesn't feel like it should. 

Modifié par terdferguson123, 15 février 2012 - 04:23 .

[Sapienti]

Internet forums for creative media always attract a particular breed of complainer. These boards are no exception and they've always been full of negativity and complaining/whining since I was a lurker here. I mainly come here to discuss class builds and stuff like that and try to avoid the fanboys (all those damn character support threads) and the complainers alike.

The complaining should die down after release and only resurface for each DLC release, it'll be quiet here until they announce ME4 and we'll see a new wave of rage. I've never been one to stick around too long though as I can live just fine without visiting these forums.

[legion999]

There's also been a sharp increase in stupidity as well and it seems a large percentage are worried because of DA2.

Modifié par legion999, 15 février 2012 - 04:24 .

[Darth Malice113]

terdferguson123 wrote...

To all the people who think that the people who are being negative are just ranting I have one thing to ask:

Is it really that hard to believe that people who absolutely loved the first two games would be concerned when the demo of the finale feels like it has taken several steps back from its predecessor? Ignore it all you want, but they have every right to be concerned with how that demo was.

For starters, all of these things are worse than they were in ME2:

- The Animations
- The graphics (outside of the reapers) Characters, backgrounds, enemies all look worse than they did in ME2
- Lack of Dialogue choices... this is kind of what seperates Mass Effect from other sci fi games, is the ability to make your own choices, and the demo had what? 5-6 choices? out of like 50 lines of dialogue from Shepard. Thats only 12% of the total dialogue that is chosen by the player, and that is very un-Mass Effect like.
- The cover mechanic is somehow worse than it was in ME2, I was caught several times jumping back and forth between cover spots because of the way it's setup.
- The entire Earth mission seems to be lacking emotion in any way, almost as if people don't care that the Reapers are attacking. I was of the opinion that the general population didn't know about the Reapers due to the council hiding it. When they do attack, it's almost as if alliance members don't really care. The entire scene lacks emotion, save for the excellent soundtrack. Again, very un-Mass Effect like.

You think these things are something that a huge fan of the series should be concerned about? ME2 was polished like a dream, and this demo in comparison just feels extremely lackluster.

Lastly, don't give me the "It's a demo!" line, a demo should and usually is a portion of the final game that is meant to tempt players into buying the game. It shouldn't be a beta test of an old build of a game that has already gone gold, as much as I would love to believe thats true, I think it's a bit late for that. So, in conclusion we have every right to be concerned, that demo was poor compared to Mass Effect 2, it feels rushed and incomplete. 

You say alot of things look worse than ME2.  I disagree . Maybee it would look better if you didn't  view it through a lense of negativity.

[Captain Crash]

Read the first two points and just giggled 

If you actually believe even half of that then I feel sorry for you

Modifié par Captain Crash, 15 février 2012 - 04:27 .

[saturos2]

Takamori The Templar wrote...

Well can't say that the demo went so well.

But i can say that this forum will burn to nothing when the actual game comes out.

[Darth Death]

Since the beginning of time. We humans have always been negative in nature. It's just who we are.

[QwibQwib]

Which part "demo isn't final code. We can always update MP and probably will throughout the life of the product with small tweaks " you people don't understand? there's so many bugs in the demo that they ALREADY fixed. Get over it.

Modifié par QwibQwib, 15 février 2012 - 04:31 .

[Nu-Nu]

terdferguson123 wrote...

To all the people who think that the people who are being negative are just ranting I have one thing to ask:

Is it really that hard to believe that people who absolutely loved the first two games would be concerned when the demo of the finale feels like it has taken several steps back from its predecessor? Ignore it all you want, but they have every right to be concerned with how that demo was.

For starters, all of these things are worse than they were in ME2:

- The Animations
- The graphics (outside of the reapers) Characters, backgrounds, enemies all look worse than they did in ME2
- Lack of Dialogue choices... this is kind of what seperates Mass Effect from other sci fi games, is the ability to make your own choices, and the demo had what? 5-6 choices? out of like 50 lines of dialogue from Shepard. Thats only 12% of the total dialogue that is chosen by the player, and that is very un-Mass Effect like.
- The cover mechanic is somehow worse than it was in ME2, I was caught several times jumping back and forth between cover spots because of the way it's setup.
- The entire Earth mission seems to be lacking emotion in any way, almost as if people don't care that the Reapers are attacking. I was of the opinion that the general population didn't know about the Reapers due to the council hiding it. When they do attack, it's almost as if alliance members don't really care. The entire scene lacks emotion, save for the excellent soundtrack. Again, very un-Mass Effect like.

You think these things are something that a huge fan of the series should be concerned about? ME2 was polished like a dream, and this demo in comparison just feels extremely lackluster.

Lastly, don't give me the "It's a demo!" line, a demo should and usually is a portion of the final game that is meant to tempt players into buying the game. It shouldn't be a beta test of an old build of a game that has already gone gold, as much as I would love to believe thats true, I think it's a bit late for that. So, in conclusion we have every right to be concerned, that demo was poor compared to Mass Effect 2, it feels rushed and incomplete. 

It's not negativity, I love this series, just like I love all of Biowares games (yes even DA2). The reason I am so critical of this demo is because I care a lot about the quality of this game, it's the finale of one of the best triloggys in the history of video games and it doesn't feel like it should. 

There are minor problems in the demo but I choose to act optimistic about them not being in the game and not rant about it and make a new thread of the same rant, especially after the many ranting threads already. Plus information has been passed along telling us the demo isn't the real deal, that devs have confirmed some situation like the dialogue is better in-game. The negativity is overkill.

Modifié par Nu-Nu, 15 février 2012 - 04:41 .

[CrazyRah]

QwibQwib wrote...

Which part "
demo isn't final code. We can always update MP and probably will throughout the life of the product with small tweaks " you people don't understand? there's so many bugs in the demo that they ALREADY fixed. Get over it.

This