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[NPH11]

Since the moment ME3 was announced?

[tonnactus]

Taleroth wrote...

Some is nitpicking. Some is legitimate. It's not perfect.

People are passionate. The worst is it means people wanted it to be better. Better being somewhat ephemeral and subjective, so there are varying ideas as to what that means.

Someone else wrote this and i only could agree with it:



Shepard and Anderson are the only ones to escape, and we see the
Reapers beginning their assault and the city, and this has to be the
most laughable “invasion” I've ever seen. You'd think
that they'd be blasting every major city into a smoking crater with
mass-accelerator fire from orbit, but instead they're putzing around
the city, occasionally zapping something with a laser beam. If they
had just nuked whatever city the Alliance makes it headquarters at,
Shepard would have been vaporised and they
would have won in less than a minute.
But I guess the Reapers are sporting and wanted to give Shepard a fair
chance to escape.




Shepard
and Anderson get to the Normandy,
and Anderson tells Shepard to go to the Citadel and speak to the
Council. Wait, WHAT? Are
they saying that the Reapers didn't
attack the Citadel first? That was their whole plan from the
beginning! Attack the Citadel, obliterate any form of galactic
government, and lock down the mass relays, preventing any form of
interstellar travel and allowing the Reapers to conquer every system
in the galaxy at their leisure. It'd pretty much be game over for the
galaxy if they did that, but no, instead they make a beeline for
Earth, 'cause BioWare thinks humans are
so goddamn SPESHUL (and that Shepard is
Jesus in SPACE!!!) that the Reapers are going to make them the number
one priority. So at the end of the game when the Reapers are
defeated, the only reason that Shepard and Co. will have won is
because the REAPERS WERE MORONS.

http://atomichatebom...s-horrible.html

Modifié par tonnactus, 15 février 2012 - 04:51 .

[Medhia Nox]

Because being negative is a Renegade response - and being a Renegade is: "What's needed in times like these?"

[crimzontearz]

10/12/2009....

[EpicBoot2daFace]

squee365 wrote...

I thought the demo was actually great...No really. I'm starting to think if I should even come here anymore because I know that what I played was good, and I want this game still. Does everyone really think the demo was THAT BAD? Or is it just silly nitpicking?  

People tend to exagerate on every message board. But it was pretty damn bad, IMO.

Seriously, you are entitled to think it was good. Why do you have to ****** on people who didn't like it? How many more of these threads do we need? Accept that others don't share your opinion of the demo and move on. What is so hard about this?

[macrocarl]

I've played ME and ME2 recently (just finished 4th play through a couple days ago) and the demo looks sweet. It's a demo anyway. Anyway this forum gets negative all the time. It's frustrating, I agree.

[WizenSlinky0]

A lot of concerns about the game are relatively legitmate (at least before some people take them to the extreme end of the spectrum). I liked the demo and thought they did a lot of good stuff with ME3. We also know we didn't get access to everything the game has in store for us. However, the game has parted with some of the more beloved parts of ME1 and the controls weren't as accessible or precise as ME2.

I think the best thing anyone who wants to defend the demo, ME3, and Bioware could do is simply to be civil and debate the issue rationally on your end. Not every person who dislikes it is a troll (regardless of attitude, personal insults, etc.) since it is a subjective experience. The biggest mistake anyone could make while debating issues is to start insulting and yelling yourself. Passion is good. But it must be controlled.

Really, at this point it's highly unlikely anyone will convince someone not to be outraged by something if they've already made the decision. But it goes both ways. It's highly unlikely the negative posts are going to effect anyone who is already happen with what they've seen. If you use rational arguments though you may just sway someone still on the fence to consider your points. If you let your posts degrade into the same screaming matches you might just turn them over to the other side.

Still, best to keep an open mind and take other points of view into account.

Modifié par WizenSlinky0, 15 février 2012 - 04:56 .

[Cosmar]

I'm still excited for the game, but am also somewhat negative because *IF* the demo is any indication of the whole game, Bioware has blatantly lied about many things and let most of us true fans down in a big way.

BTW, a "true fan" is NOT someone who will blindly accept everything Bioware ever does with the series and play it and love it regardless of how dumbed down it is or how much Bioware has lied to the players for marketing's sake. a TRUE fan is someone who believed in the spirit of the series from the beginning and wanted/hoped for the whole series to live up to that...

[Ferocious7]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

squee365 wrote...

mgoss wrote...

What's wrong with being negative and complaining about something you don't like? Are we suppose to just sit back and pretend every thing is okay?

Nothing? I didn't say it was wrong to complain. I'm just astounded because I really enjoyed the demo. It just feels like I'm the only one who enjoyed it.

You are not the only one that enjoyed it.  Negative Nancies are always louder.

Very true, there are people who whine and cry about everything... I know a legit complaint when I see one... so far most seem like utter bs.  Game breaking glitches, etc.. sure... complain away.  Wahhhhhhh my favorite character wahhhhhhhhhhhhhh ashley let her hair down, wahhhhh the demo was only two missions wahhhhhhhhh commander shepard blinked one eye faster than the other wahhhh I need electricity to play the game wahhhhh  get a grip and put on your adult pants people, it's one thing to make a legit claim... but RELAX.. yes, it is just a demo and a very good one at that in my opinion... you don't have to like it but I'm confident the game will be nothing short of epic and win many awards, as is expected.  

I thought the demo was great... no game will satisfy everyone, and that's a fact people should've been familiar with over a decade ago.  The Mass Effect 3 demo left me looking forward to the full release...and I'm sure many others felt the same way.  But really.... trying to "demo" an RPG game is tough.. much tougher than most probably realize.  How often do you play RPG demos of highly anticipated RPGs?  That was no small feat of Bioware to get one out there for us... and you will likely never capture all of the great aspects of an RPG within a demo, so obviously there's still plenty to look forward to.  

Modifié par Ferocious7, 15 février 2012 - 05:07 .

[squee365]

tonnactus wrote...

snip

Vigil wrote...
"The extermination of an entire species is a long slow process"

...But about not attacking the citadel first. It has to do with what happened in arrival, Earth is closer. 

Modifié par squee365, 15 février 2012 - 04:56 .

[Azumio]

The backgrounds look like garbage. If anyone wishes to see an example, I can take a screenshot of the Salarian level where you can see an obvious copy and pasted background that's supposed to be a forestry mountain I think?. Looks like 2001 graphics.

Don't really care about gameplay. Wasn't even a fan of it in ME1, the story kept me involved. Got a lot less involved because of ME2 (Terrible story). Probably not buying ME3 because it seems to have picked up where ME2 left-off (Earth-centric, Reapers are most concentrated around earth, game revolves around going around the galaxy trying to convince other species to help us fight them despite the fact that the Reapers are supposed to kill every living thing in the galaxy.)

Meh. Doesn't really interest me for the 60 or so bucks it'll cost. Already got burned buying SWTOR, and just dodged getting shredded from buying DA2 (Computer broke down around it's release, read all the user reviews. Saved me money).

Bioware not the company they used to be. Probably should have kept Drew on as lead-writer, as soon as he left that post, the story tanked. SWTOR's stories are pretty decent (Drew being writer there).

[Skypezee]

squee365 wrote...

Eire Icon wrote...

Chuck Fandango wrote...

At the time of this post, half of all the topics on the front page are complaints. I'm almost done with this forum now. I'll probably just come back & check sticky threads for official info, but this place has become a drag, it's like the Pessimists Society's Annual General Meeting!

Agree 100% - all the whinning is stiffling any real debate about the game

In the majority of posts the game has actually taken a back seat, its now more about whose rtight and whose wrong "The Whiny Trolls" or "The Bioware Fan Boys"

God forbid we show how excited we are to play the entire game. 

There's nothing wrong with showing excitement. I personally liked the demo even though it was short, but it leaves me to want to play the full game to get the entire experience. So it's alright with people to express excitement based on what they saw in the demo. It's also alright for people to express concerns because this is the final entry to the series and they want it to be good.

However, it's annoying when people say "I'm right and your wrong. You must not have played the previous games recently because I have and I also instantly know that the DEMO is a 100% reflection of the final product!" Again, everyone has opinions and they're entitled to it. But it doesn't mean that an opinion is suddenly fact.

Modifié par Skypezee, 15 février 2012 - 05:00 .

[Chuck Fandango]

Azumio wrote...

The backgrounds look like garbage. If anyone wishes to see an example, I can take a screenshot of the Salarian level where you can see an obvious copy and pasted background that's supposed to be a forestry mountain I think?. Looks like 2001 graphics.

Don't really care about gameplay. Wasn't even a fan of it in ME1, the story kept me involved. Got a lot less involved because of ME2 (Terrible story). Probably not buying ME3 because it seems to have picked up where ME2 left-off (Earth-centric, Reapers are most concentrated around earth, game revolves around going around the galaxy trying to convince other species to help us fight them despite the fact that the Reapers are supposed to kill every living thing in the galaxy.)

Meh. Doesn't really interest me for the 60 or so bucks it'll cost. Already got burned buying SWTOR, and just dodged getting shredded from buying DA2 (Computer broke down around it's release, read all the user reviews. Saved me money).

Bioware not the company they used to be. Probably should have kept Drew on as lead-writer, as soon as he left that post, the story tanked. SWTOR's stories are pretty decent (Drew being writer there).

Bye, don't let the door hit you on the way out! 

[Chuck Fandango]

Fandango9641 wrote...

As a UK based PS3 owner, I’m still waiting for the demo to drop but I enjoy reading the thoughts of those who have already played, regardless of their position. Just as an aside, if you want to see this place at its very worst, go visit some of our dedicated character threads.

Hey, are we related!? 

Modifié par Chuck Fandango, 15 février 2012 - 05:03 .

[Rickin10]

Don't know what all the complaining's all about. Thought the demo was a really good tps.

[Matt VT Schlo]

The demo had a lot of concerning things in it - most have already been touched upon, but better or worse, Bioware fans are very vocal, and for good reason, Bioware has really morphed from an RPG company to a Action 3rd person shooter with RPG elements.

[Chuck Fandango]

Fandango9641 wrote...

Chuck Fandango wrote...

Fandango9641 wrote...

As a UK based PS3 owner, I’m still waiting for the demo to drop but I enjoy reading the thoughts of those who have already played, regardless of their position. Just as an aside, if you want to see this place at its very worst, go visit some of our dedicated character threads.

Hey, are we related!? 

Dad?

Son! *Sniff sniff*  I must have something stuck in my eye! :lol:

Modifié par Chuck Fandango, 15 février 2012 - 05:08 .

[nicethugbert]

The ME1 elements of the demo really distract me from what's good about the game. It looks and feels and sounds so cheap, cheesy, old, crappy, ....., the sniper rifle sounds for instance.

ME3 is supposed to be the grand finally of the series and putting ME1 elements is like digging up grand pa and breaking out the cob webs.

[Azumio]

Chuck Fandango wrote...

Azumio wrote...

The backgrounds look like garbage. If anyone wishes to see an example, I can take a screenshot of the Salarian level where you can see an obvious copy and pasted background that's supposed to be a forestry mountain I think?. Looks like 2001 graphics.

Don't really care about gameplay. Wasn't even a fan of it in ME1, the story kept me involved. Got a lot less involved because of ME2 (Terrible story). Probably not buying ME3 because it seems to have picked up where ME2 left-off (Earth-centric, Reapers are most concentrated around earth, game revolves around going around the galaxy trying to convince other species to help us fight them despite the fact that the Reapers are supposed to kill every living thing in the galaxy.)

Meh. Doesn't really interest me for the 60 or so bucks it'll cost. Already got burned buying SWTOR, and just dodged getting shredded from buying DA2 (Computer broke down around it's release, read all the user reviews. Saved me money).

Bioware not the company they used to be. Probably should have kept Drew on as lead-writer, as soon as he left that post, the story tanked. SWTOR's stories are pretty decent (Drew being writer there).

Bye, don't let the door hit you on the way out! 

Jezzz... You Bioware hardcore fans are tough and sensitive at the same time. Stop being so touchy, the games not perfect.

I swear, if everyone took the appoarch Bioware Fanboys/Girls spout when something negitive gets said about their games SWTOR would have 500 players max, and ME3 wouldn't even get released.

Calm down. It's well known the quality of Bioware games took a drastic downward-trend when EA got involved. Let it go. It's ok to admit it.

[f1r3storm]

tonnactus wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

Some is nitpicking. Some is legitimate. It's not perfect.

People are passionate. The worst is it means people wanted it to be better. Better being somewhat ephemeral and subjective, so there are varying ideas as to what that means.

Someone else wrote this and i only could agree with it:

Shepard and Anderson are the only ones to escape, and we see the
Reapers beginning their assault and the city, and this has to be the
most laughable “invasion” I've ever seen. You'd think
that they'd be blasting every major city into a smoking crater with
mass-accelerator fire from orbit, but instead they're putzing around
the city, occasionally zapping something with a laser beam.
. If they
had just nuked whatever city the Alliance makes it headquarters at,
Shepard would have been vaporised and they
would have won in less than a minute.
But I guess the Reapers are sporting and wanted to give Shepard a fair
chance to escape.





Shepard
and Anderson get to the Normandy,
and Anderson tells Shepard to go to the Citadel and speak to the
Council. Wait, WHAT? Are
they saying that the Reapers didn't
attack the Citadel first? That was their whole plan from the
beginning! Attack the Citadel, obliterate any form of galactic
government, and lock down the mass relays, preventing any form of
interstellar travel and allowing the Reapers to conquer every system
in the galaxy at their leisure. It'd pretty much be game over for the
galaxy if they did that, but no, instead they make a beeline for
Earth, 'cause BioWare thinks humans are[i]
so goddamn SPESHUL (and that Shepard is
Jesus in SPACE!!!) that the Reapers are going to make them the number
one priority. So at the end of the game when the Reapers are
defeated, the only reason that Shepard and Co. will have won is
because the REAPERS WERE MORONS.

http://atomichatebom...s-horrible.html

That's the most ridiculous bull**** i've read today.

Modifié par f1r3storm, 15 février 2012 - 05:14 .

[tonnactus]

squee365 wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

snip

Vigil wrote...
"The extermination of an entire species is a long slow process"

...But about not attacking the citadel first. It has to do with what happened in arrival, Earth is closer. 

The protheans were the only advanced race in the previous extermination cyclus.They had a lot colonies across the galaxy.

And no matter if the earth is closer is doesnt play any role. Nothing force the reapers to attack the earth first when taking out the "nerve centre" of the enemy is possible and make things easier after that. The reapers could have just ignored earth and attack the citadel no matter "if earth is closer".

And its still not explained why this one reaper killed the fugitives in the shuttles but let shepardt escape. This reaper must be a dumb one.(and the whole fleet that let the normandy escape)

Modifié par tonnactus, 15 février 2012 - 05:15 .