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The Child: A figment of Shepard's imagination?


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#201
Windninja47

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 I honestly think that this could be true. If it is however, then the kid will have to appear many times over the course of the game. 

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nitefyre410

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I don't think so - I think he was just a kid that got lost in all the chaos going around him. Hell kids get lost in less chaotic situations... it just possible that Anderson did not see him and Shepard walked by when he moved in the vent He turned for a second and he was gone. Even full a grown adult can pull a disappearing act like that. 

Edit: Children his  age are really easy to lose track of  having worked with them enough you turn around for a second and then  vanish better than Ninja's  

Look at Heavy Rain   looked the other way for a minute and his got lost in the mall crowd that fast.

Modifié par nitefyre410, 21 février 2012 - 05:05 .


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Baka-no-Neko

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I like the idea, it would have a lot of plot potential to mess with Shepard's psyche. But, as someone has already mentioned, why was it not introduced earlier on? Subtle hints thoughout ME2; I mean the horror of dying and then being brought back....surely that is enough to trigger this kind of thing, if Bioware were intending it. And what about all those issues brought up by each of the Shepard origins?

So, sadly, no. For now, until proven otherwise, I think its just a cheesy (yet effective) tug on the old heart-strings.

Modifié par Baka-no-Neko, 21 février 2012 - 06:29 .


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Baka-no-Neko wrote...
*snip*

So, sadly, no. For now, until proven otherwise, I think its just a cheesy (yet effective) tug on the old heart-strings.

 

Like cheesy a  like good pizza or  nacho's .. you know it cheesy but thats the point.

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Baka-no-Neko

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nitefyre410 wrote...

Baka-no-Neko wrote...
*snip*

So, sadly, no. For now, until proven otherwise, I think its just a cheesy (yet effective) tug on the old heart-strings.

 

Like cheesy a  like good pizza or  nacho's .. you know it cheesy but thats the point.


Exactly, and now I'm hungry :D

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I think it entirely defeats the purpose.

The kid is representative of the people who cannot be saved. Of the innocents lost in this largely military focusing story; Those who have not sacrificed and are simply lost to the horror.

He can still represent those things as a dream, but it's considerably less visceral and impactful if he's doing a Harvey and it turns out we're only imagining the remote, ugly, fiery death.

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Excalceo

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Ziggeh wrote...

..if he's doing a Harvey


Holy hell! Someone else who knows what Harvey is!  I have literally used that phrase (well...pulling a Harvey) dozens of times and have been met with nothing but blank stares.

That aside, the more I think about it the more I feel my OP is ridiculous...although not entirely without merit.  Like many have stated we'll just have to wait and see.

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http://uk.gamespot.c...e-demo-6318367/ - just had a thought whilst watching this. At 10:39/ 10:40, Hudson mentions the kid scene being "an important thread" in Shepard's story. I wonder what he meant. Any thoughts?

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Nathan Redgrave wrote...

RGFrog wrote...

If you watch the lower level just before starting to shoot the first husks with anderson, you'll see the kid run through the platform and open the door.

Imaginary children don't bother with doors...


Huh... didn't notice that.

Mind you, that is one badass kid, to have survived long enough to make it from there to where the shuttles at the end were. When you consider how Shep had to get down there, that's a pretty long distance to cover.


Most likely he just followed shep and anderson.

#210
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I like that theory.
The kid was way too weird with that whole "you can't help me" thing. The way the line was delivered I was expecting him to turn into a monster or something.
Also the soldiers not helping the kid get into the shuttle was pretty weird too.
If it was just there to show us that "destroying Earth actually causes casualties and some of them are kids" then it's not done all that well imo. No reason to have that short little weird conversation with the kid if he is only used as a "heartbreak" device. Seeing him crawl into the shuttle and get blown up would be enough.

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Hell OX77

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you and me thought the same thing.

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It could be something to do with indoctrination and the fact that Shepard came back to life through the use of synthetic technologies. And SPOILER. Cant say no more, but pure speculation on my part. But the SPOILER makes it seem more likely. PM me if you want the massive spoiler.

Modifié par Bigaddygun, 21 février 2012 - 08:13 .


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Aramintai

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According to the artbook "The Art of The Mass Effect Universe" for Shepard the child represents all those people on Earth whom he\\she couldn't save. So the child is a symbol for Shepard and I doubt there's anything else to it.

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Catsith wrote...

..Why would Shepard be hallucinating before the reapers invade as he sees the kid? If Shepard was going through some psychological mess, he would be treated for it. He was at Alliance HQ, for gods sake. There was no indoctrination going on, the Reapers were out of contact at that point.

As much as I'd like to believe the writers would be willing to mess Shepard up psychologically with events like this, with Mac at helm, I'm sure the kid was used as a lazy and cheap way to evoke an emotional response. They are also using another kid in this new "Take Earth Back" trailer.

Maybe Cerberus implanted some kinda (reaper) mind controller in shepard when she was recovered.

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Reptilian Rob

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LOL HEY GUYS WHAT IF THE KID WAS PART OF SHEP'S IMAGINATION!?

Oh man, that really slaps me on the knee.

#216
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The vast majority of Mass Effect 3 takes place in Shepard's head after the Reapers shoot up the council room on Earth and Shepard ends up pinned under a pile of debris while Anderson is vaporized instantly.

Shepard then lies there, bleeding out and delirious, clinging to A) Memories of the immediate past, which is why so many people who showed up over the past 2 games keep returning even though it's such a big galaxy that would be statistically unlikely and B) Memories of the even more immediate past, which is seeing a kid outside the window.

Happy ending.

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The Alliance soldiers may not have looked at him, but they waited until he was in the shuttle to signal the pilot to take off. Theory refuted.