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[locowolfie]

 Do you feel vanguard is over powered, do. while am a vanguard myself feel it is quit "over"powered. your thougts

[nicethugbert]

No.

[AngusJimiKeith]

no, because without some backup (i.e. a decent squad) vanguards are suicidal. Fun, but suicidal. With a good group, though, they are an unstoppable force.

[incinerator950]

No, I don't even play the Vanguard, but when I'm fighting for kills, I'm always fighting for kills with Engineers and Soldiers.

[SNascimento]

I just played 3 mp matches with two vanguards in my team, both level 10 or so and they didn't feel overpowered.

[AngusJimiKeith]

It depends alot on the player as well. People who know how to play vanguard are damn good with it. People who aren't get screwed.

[DiegoProgMetal]

I don't feel that. Actually, I noticed that if you have more variety in your squad, the game gets easier... If everyone, or at least most of the squad shares the same class, things get ugly fast. Even on Bronze.

Modifié par DiegoProgMetal, 15 février 2012 - 05:35 .

[Zkyire]

A Vanguard is only as good as the team supporting him/her.

If you charge inrecklessly without support you're as good as dead.

[incinerator950]

DiegoProgMetal wrote...

I don't feel that. Actually, I noticed that if you have more variety in your squad, the game gets easier... If everyone, or at least most of the squad shares the same class, things get ugly fast. Even on Bronze.

I think Soldiers are the least succeptable for this on Bronze, higher it does get ugly.

[AngusJimiKeith]

@zkyire especially if you charge and then nova. And yes, I have seen vanguards do that. They die very, VERY quickly.

Modifié par AngusJimiKeith, 15 février 2012 - 05:37 .

[Relix28]

AngusJimiKeith wrote...

It depends alot on the player as well. People who know how to play vanguard are damn good with it. People who aren't get screwed.

Pretty much this. Good Vanguard players can be unstopable, and can hold on thier own, without much squad support. Bad players that fail to understand the game mechanics are usally the Kamikaze type that go in, whif half of their shots and die before they can charge again.

[CanonShepard]

Not that I'm complaining because I play as one but Engineers seem more overpowered then Vanguards.

[D Amiri]

It's way too early to tell. Most ppl don't have their classes at max level and aren't using the better weapons and upgrades. Plus most of us are playing Bronze. After a month or two we might be using Silver/Gold as the standard and view Bronze with the disdain that forum poster have for normal in ME2. In the higher modes I think Insanity-style cover shooting/casting might be more dominate.

[Delta 57 Dash]

I'm a level 17 Vanguard, and I have had rounds where I have more points than the rest of my team combined.

It all depends on whether or not you know how to play a vanguard. Half-blast Nova's are great, considering they only take half your barrier off. Combine that with a fast-recharge charge that fully restores your barrier, and you can wreck stuff up close. Or charge halfway across the battlefield to pick off that pesky nemesis.

That said, charging into an Atlas/Turret is still pretty much instant death.

Are they OP? No, because you're very limited by having a chargable enemy in range. If you can't charge anything, you can't regen your barrier and are a sitting duck. You also pretty much suck vs. an Atlas.

[ArkkAngel007]

Vanguard is not overpowered, not in the slightest.

I'm a level 8 Vanguard right now, so here's my experience:

1. You need to have a squad reinforcing you. A Vanguard against more than 2-3 enemies in the later waves and especially on higher difficulties is going to leave you with a single bar of health if not dying on the deck. Enemies such as Guardians and Phantoms will shred a Vanguard to pieces if a Vanguard has no back-up.

2. Due to needing a high recharge rate, it isn't advisable to carry more than one weapon. Due to the close quarter nature of the Vanguard, the shotgun is usually the favorable option. The problem with that is a slow firing weapon with limited range, meaning no matter what enemies have to get in close for you to be effective, but that also increases the chance of a quick death by overwhelming numbers.

The objective is to be highly mobile while dealing the most damage in the most efficient way possible in that mobility. You can be a bit looser in Bronze, but Silver and Gold will punish Vanguards who are over-eager.

However, I have had the top score a few times...it just depends on the team behind you and how everyone utilizes their classes.

Modifié par ArkkAngel007, 15 février 2012 - 06:04 .

[KainrycKarr]

Not really. I'm powerful, but can be taken out quite easily, all it takes is one slip up.

[Bachi1230]

Vanguards OP? no.

Infiltrators OP? Yes.

I easily get first place in every match with 75+ kills and 4 shotting atlas mechs in Bronze and can one shot every other unit. As well as stealth cap objectives.

[clopin]

It's not over powered, but all the classes as a general rule are damn good once you rank them up a bit.

[locowolfie]

I have to agree with the idea of if you can play vanguard.
Its op if you don't undestand the class ur more dead than any other class.

[goofyomnivore]

Infiltrator is the strongest I think when you get the Widow and Phalanx

[sirjimmus86]

I like this thread, because I chose to play Vanguard and do ok. Highest scorer on most rounds, tend to get my ass kicked in the later ones however - still need to work on holding back with charge.

[augmented shephard]

I loved playing as a vanguard in ME2, but for some reason I am not enjoying playing as that class in ME3. SP or MP.
I would much rather play as an adept, which, strangely, I did not enjoy in ME2.
XD

[Arppis]

Soldiers are the best class, imo.

Vanguards are fun too, but they can't take down turrets so well and Atlas mech can be hard to take down as Vanguard. As Soldier, no enemy is a problem.

[SarenReborn]

AngusJimiKeith wrote...

@zkyire especially if you charge and then nova. And yes, I have seen vanguards do that. They die very, VERY quickly.

That is actually quite effective when you have a good team, but you have to be carrying the bare minimum weight, When im low on shield, I charge into the enemy, use a full powered nova, and I should pretty much be able to dodge out of there if my team covers me. The alternative is nova ---> charge ----> nova, since on max biotic charge, your shields are refilled to the max. 

[Arppis]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

Vanguard is not overpowered, not in the slightest.

I'm a level 8 Vanguard right now, so here's my experience:

1. You need to have a squad reinforcing you. A Vanguard against more than 2-3 enemies in the later waves and especially on higher difficulties is going to leave you with a single bar of health if not dying on the deck. Enemies such as Guardians and Phantoms will shred a Vanguard to pieces if a Vanguard has no back-up.

2. Due to needing a high recharge rate, it isn't advisable to carry more than one weapon. Due to the close quarter nature of the Vanguard, the shotgun is usually the favorable option. The problem with that is a slow firing weapon with limited range, meaning no matter what enemies have to get in close for you to be effective, but that also increases the chance of a quick death by overwhelming numbers.

The objective is to be highly mobile while dealing the most damage in the most efficient way possible in that mobility. You can be a bit looser in Bronze, but Silver and Gold will punish Vanguards who are over-eager.

However, I have had the top score a few times...it just depends on the team behind you and how everyone utilizes their classes.

Use Avenger and SMG (gives you pretty good cooldowns as Avenger is lightest gun in the game it seems). Works like charm and you don't have to be accurate, you can just spray away to the general direction and they die.