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BIoware developers Hear our pleas! Please reconsider implementing the holster option back into Mass Effect 3


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gunstalker43

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I don't want this! Please give us that option back!

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Alfa Kilo

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The game has gone gold a few days back, has it not? Not really a good time for suggestions.

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AleshCZ wrote...

The game has gone gold a few days back, has it not? Not really a good time for suggestions.


You do know there is a thing called "Patching" available now right? They will, most likely have a launch day patch to work out any bugs that were discovered post gold status.

It is very feasable for them to do change things int he game still. Take ME2 for instance, the planet scanning got some people upset, they resolved this making scanning a lot easier y patching it.

So it is actually a great time for suggestions. We have part of the game in our hands, they can go in and patch anything suggested that they feel needs it.

That doesnt mean the holstering will come back though, but there is plenty of time to resolve issues.

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Alfa Kilo

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I am aware of this mysterious "patching" you mention :)
Fixing issues is one matter, however I do not think that Bioware will be spending their time on creating animation sets without weapons - that's what I meant, I should have been more clear.

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Why do people continue to remind everyone that the game has gone gold? So what? No one is talking about changing something right now. We are talking a day 1 patch, or even a patch sometime after.

Modifié par dhale1975, 20 février 2012 - 11:06 .


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the almighty moo

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i have a question regarding it:


who the hell cares?!? So what if i cant holster my weapon? I wont loose sleep over it.

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the almighty moo wrote...

i have a question regarding it:


who the hell cares?!? So what if i cant holster my weapon? I wont loose sleep over it.


Hate to state the obvious, but those posting in this and other threads care. If your happy, then great, I hope you get a good nights sleep.

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the almighty moo wrote...

i have a question regarding it:


who the hell cares?!? So what if i cant holster my weapon? I wont loose sleep over it.


So you don't find it ridiculous to be pointing a gun in the face of every NPC you walk up to?  There's plenty in combat zones. It happens a few times in the demo. How many times is that going to happen in the game?  Not to mention how dumb it looks in third person to be holding a gun at arms length that long. There is a reason why every other TPS has you hold your gun comfortably or holster it if you haven't aimed in a short time. 

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It would be nice to have it back... I know a perfect button for it, it should be the use/cover/storm/holster button ! Its obviously too much trouble for them to assign more keys so I doubt they will add this feature... sad.

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AleshCZ wrote...

I am aware of this mysterious "patching" you mention :)
Fixing issues is one matter, however I do not think that Bioware will be spending their time on creating animation sets without weapons - that's what I meant, I should have been more clear.

 Bioware dont need to create any new animations, they are already on disk.They just removed them from the action area loads to save room for all the new animations they have added. As stated many times already in this thread its a limitation of the consoles RAM that has brought about the removal of holstering.

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agn25 wrote...

AleshCZ wrote...

I am aware of this mysterious "patching" you mention :)
Fixing issues is one matter, however I do not think that Bioware will be spending their time on creating animation sets without weapons - that's what I meant, I should have been more clear.

 Bioware dont need to create any new animations, they are already on disk.They just removed them from the action area loads to save room for all the new animations they have added. As stated many times already in this thread its a limitation of the consoles RAM that has brought about the removal of holstering.


Shouldn't have given us the new crap in the first place then if they couldn't keep what we already had in place.

Idiots.

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Lol

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SpideyKnight

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ItsFreakinJesus wrote...

Dasher1010 wrote...

Why bring back a feature that nobody ever used?

Just because you never used it doesn't mean it wasn't used.  Obviously, based on the collective reactions here and on every other forum on the internet, it was used a lot. 

Back on topic, if they implemented it back into the game, it'd only be possible on the PC version.  PS3's 256MB of RAM isn't enough due to all of the extra animations Bioware put in, be it combat rolls or heavy melee actions.  All of these animations had to be loaded at once, and it took up 4MB of RAM, which, when you're dealing with 256MB of RAM, is quite a lot of space. 

It may be possible to enable on the 360 due to it having 512MB of RAM, but enabling it on the 360, if it was possible, would make the 360 version superior to the PS3 version, and there's no way that would fly.

PC's have plenty of RAM (I have 10GB of RAM personally) and in regards to games, PC's having an edge over the consoles isn't going to make anyone flip out.


I can't tell if you are an active xbot, trolling, or just misinformed.  Bravo, sir.  For the record though the ps3 has 512MB of collective RAM as well.  256 VRAM and 256 RAM.  They can be used in conjunction with one another giving the box 512MB of RAM.  There's a few pro's and con's doing it the way the ps3 did it, but quite a few support the way the xbox did it as well.  At the end of the day though they are nearly the same.

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And that's why I'll never buy another console again. Stuck with 512MB of RAM? Games gimped in order to deal with disk space requirements (see ME2 on Xbox)?

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"The Next Xbox Will Play Blu-Ray, May Not Play Used Games". Looks like consoles are Turning into PC's. PC games have no resell value at all and this will soon happen to consoles. I feel sorry for console owners who are going to need to fork up more money to fuel their game hobby.

http://kotaku.com/58...roduce-kinect-2

Modifié par kingsims, 21 février 2012 - 06:26 .


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Only game I really liked holstering in was Jedi Outcast, cause there's nothing like igniting or deactivating a lightsaber on command. xD Guns though? Nah, I couldn't care less.

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Any news???

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yea im against this as the devs had said before the reason they took it out is to save space so that they could add in things that matter in the game

no reason to put something back in the game that was taking up space. when it was replaced with something more important like taking helmets off :devil:

Modifié par cronosfire, 22 février 2012 - 03:19 .


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If that is the case, they have no reason to penalize the PC version. ME1 is a perfect example of re-design to accommodate for a different platform. But fat chance, they would not want to wast the money on us and I doubt EA would let them even if they wanted.

Money first Customers second. Its all backward these days. Its our own fault we are all too willing to bend over and pay for whatever they give us.

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NipWup wrote...

If that is the case, they have no reason to penalize the PC version. ME1 is a perfect example of re-design to accommodate for a different platform. But fat chance, they would not want to wast the money on us and I doubt EA would let them even if they wanted.

Money first Customers second. Its all backward these days. Its our own fault we are all too willing to bend over and pay for whatever they give us.


and how are you being penalized? since most of the time its cheaper to buy pc and the graphics are most of the time better so i dont think PC players are hurting at all here. Bioware and EA yes are trying to make money this is what a company does and they have said this before if you dont like something that much that is a "deal" breaker for you then dont buy the game its that simple. they tryed to save space for other things and took out something that was pointless

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<venting my rage>People are too quick to believe the marketing propaganda these days. Relentlesly market a product until you are blue in the face, and you are practically guaranteed good sales. I remember the time when "customer was always right". Today, not only are you not "right", you are not even a customer - you are a "consumer": a derigatory term introduced to diminish the value of you and your money. Used to be that customers come first - now it's the stockholders. Like it is them who keep the business going. I'd like to see how many stockholders a company with no customers has.</venting my rage>

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your right cronosfire. I have not bought the game. About you saying PC version not being penalized. Completely disagree. Distributors and consoles are responsible for the degradation in PC game quality and has been for quite some time.

Just look at the few game devs that also distribute without a 2nd party. especially PC dedicated devs.. Quality is excellent. No deadlines, no cross platform complications. Yes those companies don't earn as much as the big names. But at least the customers come first. Because for them, unhappy costumers = no money.

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+1 shunjalo

Modifié par NipWup, 22 février 2012 - 04:04 .


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NipWup wrote...

your right. I have not bought the game. About you saying PC version not being penalized. Completely disagree. Distributors and consoles are responsible for the degradation in PC game quality and has been for quite some time.

Just look at the few game devs that also distribute without a 2nd party. especially PC dedicated devs.. Quality is excellent. No deadlines, no cross platform complications. Yes those companies don't earn as much as the big names. But at least the customers come first. Because for them, unhappy costumers = no money.


i can see your point but as businesses have relized that PC is not the only console out there so they had to make adjustments. like getting more fans that play xbox and ps3 combined over the pc so they are making more money in the long run

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This option was available across all platforms, in the last two installments, I am not buying the whole xbox vs ps3 vs pc stuff.

Fact is, they removed something to add something. The feature they removed is having a bigger impact on many more customers than I think they realized. Hopefully they will patch this up.

Modifié par dhale1975, 22 février 2012 - 04:45 .


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Modifié par dhale1975, 22 février 2012 - 04:45 .