491 réponses à ce sujet

[RyuGuitarFreak]

Why is this thread stickied?

[Rudy Lis]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

He did: it's so that you can appreciate the presence of carryover content by realizing what's different when you do import, without feeling that you have an 'empty' game when you do that.

By understanding the baseline first, you can better appreciate the carryover they did bring in. If you played the carry-over first, you'd mentally set that as the baseline.

I prefer to appreciate carryover of those decisions my Shepards done in previous games. Properly this time, if possible - was it that hard to fix Conrad and Sirta (besieged base) back then? If there will be difference between different decisions - that would be more than enough, don't you think?
I still see no reason to play "default" game, for me lack of recurring characters is obvious: if you haven't seen them before, why they should be there? Plus I had negative experience with ME2 "default" game, because I disliked some decisions made by Bioware for "default" Shepard there. So I think I will stick to my Shepards and leave their Shepards for them.
First impression is most precious one, so I won't waste it on someone else ideas and visions - I'm pretty sure we will be fed with them more than once, regardless of actions our Shepards chose before. Join Cerberus anyone?
P.S. "Random krogan or Grunt" statement is wonderful. Brilliant, I might add. Why not sell is as 400 Points worth DLC for addon's sequel to spin-off alongside with Liara's sexy lingerie and high-heels worth 1200 points?
P.P.S. Despicable me, what I've done, I just gave them ideas...

[NightAntilli]

I don't think it's hard to imagine how things would be if you didn't import. You know your choices, you know who will be there and can easily extrapolate who wouldn't be there if you didn't play the prior games. So.. I'll just import..

[Phantom818]

I think I'll just take the playthroughs I already have and see them to the end (to see all the differences concerning the choices) and then probably throw in a brand-new "default" ME3 experience somewhere in the middle (to see all the differences when "the choices never were").

[Duncaaaaaan]

Does it matter? It's not like our choices will make any difference in the first place. This game was made with new comers of the series in mind.

[LaurenShepard-N7]

It would feel wrong to waste my first time with some random Shepard, I wanna pop my ME3 cherry with a Shepard who I know and love.

[BillsVengenace]

Thanks for your opinion. Please use the feedback thread above.

LOCKDOWN!

[Lady Blackness]

Sounds good to me, couldn't make up my mind which of my Shepards to start with anyway. Female default Shep then male default Shep then imports. Lots of game play to look forward to By the way, the demo was fabulous! Mass Effect team: you guys do mighty fine work.

[maxulic]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Rudy Lis wrote...


Oh, and I thought I'm Captain Obvious here...

Why play "empty" game, care to explain?

He did: it's so that you can appreciate the presence of carryover content by realizing what's different when you do import, without feeling that you have an 'empty' game when you do that.

By understanding the baseline first, you can better appreciate the carryover they did bring in. If you played the carry-over first, you'd mentally set that as the baseline.

And you wouldn't be able to tell the difference by playing different Shepards?

When in ME1 I let Helena Blake live in one playthrough and killed her in a different one, then when I met her on Omega in ME2 but didn't see her with the other import I could tell that it was where my decision mattered and where there was a difference. I didn't need to play ME2 with a default Shepard first. 2 different playthrough were enough to tell the details that mattered.

Modifié par maxulic, 16 février 2012 - 04:43 .

[OSUfan12121]

Why should I play without my characters when the game has been about CHOICE and BUILDING you character since ME1? That was even Biowares initial marketing strategy, "play from the start and see how your choices unfold the events of the world." Multiple imports will show us the same thing since you know we do make different choices.

[Squallypo]

Chris Priestly wrote...

annihilator27 wrote...

Allright, Chris is no longer metally healthy to mod these forums.

There is no such thing as being mentally healthy enough to moderate these forums.

or that you just love to play the elusive roll here  

[loungeshep]

WEll, yeah, how you play the game is up to you. I mean, no one should dictate how you play it.

[Nizzemancer]

No.

[RSX Titan]

There is absolutely no way I'm not going to import the first Shepard I played with in ME1 and carried over into ME2. I started as a Vanguard, even though the class changes with each game, and I'm going to finish the series with one. I may create a new Shepard for a subsequent play through but damn if I don't have a ton of imported characters to get through first.

[JamieCOTC]

It's a perfectly valid idea, but one I'm gonna have to pass on. You only play a game for the first time once. Gotta be w/ my Shepard. Good to know things change so much depending on import. Thanks!

[Eradyn]

Really, all this screams of is that imported files have so little consequence that you'd need to play a default run just to see how meaningless your import really was. *facepalm* Confidence failing...

I'm just here for the multiplayer and to see how certain scenes in the game play out at this point. After ME2 I had absolutely no confidence that ME3 would live up to its promise. Reading the leaks, that might be proven so...and now this thread. *sigh* To think what could have been...

[RSX Titan]

Eradyn wrote...

Really, all this screams of is that imported files have so little consequence that you'd need to play a default run just to see how meaningless your import really was. *facepalm* Confidence failing...

I'm just here for the multiplayer and to see how certain scenes in the game play out at this point. After ME2 I had absolutely no confidence that ME3 would live up to its promise. Reading the leaks, that might be proven so...and now this thread. *sigh* To think what could have been...

Do you mean the CoOp masquerading as multiplayer?

[Cazlee]

Actually, that would make the game better and more interesting a second time around. Maybe if I finish a renegade Shepard I'll play her first in ME3 so I can be surprised at all the familar faces in my following paragon game.

Modifié par Cazlee, 16 février 2012 - 05:37 .

[Zkyire]

Eradyn wrote...

Really, all this screams of is that imported files have so little consequence that you'd need to play a default run just to see how meaningless your import really was. *facepalm* Confidence failing...

I'm just here for the multiplayer and to see how certain scenes in the game play out at this point. After ME2 I had absolutely no confidence that ME3 would live up to its promise. Reading the leaks, that might be proven so...and now this thread. *sigh* To think what could have been...

Or it shows that your choices have LOTS of impact on the game and to see just how many there are, you should do a vanilla run first.

Seriously BSN, why always assume the worst?

[Eradyn]

Zkyire wrote...

Eradyn wrote...

Really, all this screams of is that imported files have so little consequence that you'd need to play a default run just to see how meaningless your import really was. *facepalm* Confidence failing...

I'm just here for the multiplayer and to see how certain scenes in the game play out at this point. After ME2 I had absolutely no confidence that ME3 would live up to its promise. Reading the leaks, that might be proven so...and now this thread. *sigh* To think what could have been...

Or it shows that your choices have LOTS of impact on the game and to see just how many there are, you should do a vanilla run first.

Seriously BSN, why always assume the worst?

It isn't like a precedence hasn't been set.

1) ME2 in light of its pre-launch hype and related interviews
2) Leaked ME3 script
3) This suspect thread and the reasoning and examples used.

Put it all together and you realize it's time to start lowering expectations.

RSX Titan wrote...

Eradyn wrote...

Really, all this screams of is that imported files have so little consequence that you'd need to play a default run just to see how meaningless your import really was. *facepalm* Confidence failing...

I'm just here for the multiplayer and to see how certain scenes in the game play out at this point. After ME2 I had absolutely no confidence that ME3 would live up to its promise. Reading the leaks, that might be proven so...and now this thread. *sigh* To think what could have been...

Do you mean the CoOp masquerading as multiplayer?

Yes. My friends and I are enjoying it, so that's what matters to me at this point.

Modifié par Eradyn, 16 février 2012 - 05:48 .

[hypothead]

Yep, I feel like it's going to be Dragon Age 2 all over again...fml

[GayFemshep]

Eradyn wrote...

Zkyire wrote...

Eradyn wrote...

Really, all this screams of is that imported files have so little consequence that you'd need to play a default run just to see how meaningless your import really was. *facepalm* Confidence failing...

I'm just here for the multiplayer and to see how certain scenes in the game play out at this point. After ME2 I had absolutely no confidence that ME3 would live up to its promise. Reading the leaks, that might be proven so...and now this thread. *sigh* To think what could have been...

Or it shows that your choices have LOTS of impact on the game and to see just how many there are, you should do a vanilla run first.

Seriously BSN, why always assume the worst?

It isn't like a precedence hasn't been set.

1) ME2 in light of its pre-launch hype and related interviews
2) Leaked ME3 script
3) This suspect thread and the reasoning and examples used.

Put it all together and you realize it's time to start lowering expectations.

RSX Titan wrote...

Eradyn wrote...

Really, all this screams of is that imported files have so little consequence that you'd need to play a default run just to see how meaningless your import really was. *facepalm* Confidence failing...

I'm just here for the multiplayer and to see how certain scenes in the game play out at this point. After ME2 I had absolutely no confidence that ME3 would live up to its promise. Reading the leaks, that might be proven so...and now this thread. *sigh* To think what could have been...

Do you mean the CoOp masquerading as multiplayer?

Yes. My friends and I are enjoying it, so that's what matters to me at this point.

Really? I would have thought the whole point of this thread was to go "Look, your choices matter!". Get it?

[RSX Titan]

Your choices from ME1 and ME2 can't really matter on a large scale in ME3. There are simply too many variables to account for across multiple games. Sure the example Priestley  lays out is cool but lets be honest, it's minor at best. The Rachni decision, the Council decision, the Collector base, etc... are all going to have massive workarounds so that gamers aren't punished for a decision they made 5 years ago.

I would love to see them implement a scenario where players thought saving the Rachni Queen was the right thing to do however the Reapers indoctrinated them and now you have to fight them as one of the tougher enemies in the game. If you gassed her, than the Reapers don't appear as enemies. That would truly be a decision that mattered.

Modifié par RSX Titan, 16 février 2012 - 07:44 .

[Wynne]

Aww, damn... you made me consider leaving my poor main Shep in the dust, Chris. But I really want to see how her story ends, and I want it to feel like my canon is continuing, so I think I've gotta pass on the first playthrough. I might play a default run later to see what you're talking about, but the first playthrough... I want it to feel right. Like the galaxy is the way I left it.

@Eradyn--consider the demo. Wrex and Mordin being there is what you'd expect, being an old school ME1&2 player. "Really, all this screams of is that imported files have so little consequence that you'd need to play a default run just to see how meaningless your import really was." This statement doesn't make sense if you apply it to the demo. Re-read Chris's original post with that factored in. Likely in their place, you'd have either another random krogan and a salarian scientist, or no one at all. Then when it's Wrex and Mordin on your second playthrough, you appreciate them a little more. That's what Chris was trying to say.

Exactly how satisfying the old save bonus is going to be is yet to be seen.

[squee365]

How about...




I import my Shepard
then I import my other Shepard
then my other one,

since they're all fundamentally different