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[AndersL]

Arthas9 wrote...

Well, it's absolutely ok to me if you think that I came up with the things I wrote (which I did not). I'm sorry but even if I made the private message I received  from the dev. public (which I will not - I made him a promise, cause he did't want to get into the awkward situation in he would get  tons of messages that he wouldn't be able to handle)... so if I put this pm on this board without giving his name away, it still wouldn't be proof enough to those who are sceptical. I also don't know why anyone with a sane mind, especially one who wrote tons of posts expressing his discontent about the quality of the demo and who was (and still is) quite vocal about his concerns would come up with something like this. Think about it. But as I said, it's alright to me, if you think that I'm lying. One other thing: the person or developer moderator mentioned before did not give any specific detail about anything concerning the bug fixes and about the story. He did not spoil anything to me or he did not tell me the secret of secrets, he only told me that the dialogue system is going to be nothing like the one we could see in the demo (it will offer way lot more and there will be significant choice options in the game and that its script is longer than the previous ME installments), and that the demo is "definitely an older build" (mark the quotation marks) and that "some of the bugs will have been resolved in the final game". That's all he said. You're welcome to not believing me. It did not save the day to me completely either, but it sounded very reassuring ( especially that I had preordered the CE) and it made some of my concerns go away. Full stop...I easily get tired of writing statements like these when I know that it won't deliver proof to those who are already sceptical, so it wouldn't make any difference. I think this is the last time I write about this matter. Happy days my fellow ME fan(s).

I can only hope that this is true. :happy:

Modifié par AndersL, 19 février 2012 - 12:44 .

[mineralica]

Nial Black-Knee wrote...

What brainiac thought that assigning 4 different actions to ONE button was a good idea????

Jump over cover is there too, so it's 5. Sprint, roll, pick/talk, take cover, jump over cover. Awfully irritating.

[GreatCake]

AndersL wrote...

The Sapien wrote...

AndersL wrote...

Elegana wrote...

Bad:
-Graphics: Biggest issue with me. The graphics look inferior to ME2, IMO. It looks more like an HD remake of ME1.

This. What's up with that??

Yeah, I kept hearing about how actually playing ME3 and not just watching uploads to YouTube was impressive graphics wise. But I was thoroughly let down by the graphics in the demo. Characters have better textures, but that's it. So I agree with the above. On the plus side, on my mid-end PC, I normally can't run new games on high settings, however, ME3 runs smoothly on high settings just like on old game should.

I had recently played Mass Effect 1 (on the 360) before trying out the demo. My reaction: The **** is this?! The graphics are horrible. Mass Effect 2's graphics were a major improvment, like the game itself... I have bad feelings about this one.

Mass Effect 2's graphics were VASTLY improved over ME1. I just recently beat Mass Effect 2 again, and I'm pretty sure, based on the demo, that the graphics have been downgraded. But still better than ME1. In any case, it should be an improvement in quality, not a decline.

[Rurik948]

AndersL wrote...

Arthas9 wrote...

Well, it's absolutely ok to me if you think that I came up with the things I wrote (which I did not). I'm sorry but even if I made the private message I received  from the dev. public (which I will not - I made him a promise, cause he did't want to get into the awkward situation in he would get  tons of messages that he wouldn't be able to handle)... so if I put this pm on this board without giving his name away, it still wouldn't be proof enough to those who are sceptical. I also don't know why anyone with a sane mind, especially one who wrote tons of posts expressing his discontent about the quality of the demo and who was (and still is) quite vocal about his concerns would come up with something like this. Think about it. But as I said, it's alright to me, if you think that I'm lying.

I can only hope that this is true. :happy:

So do I.  But unfortunately ME3 is more likely to be a very big dissapointment for the fans, because
 
1 The Bioware still hasn't officially responded  to the concerns about poor dialog choices ( Strange, this concern has been expressed in nearly every second post in Demo Feedback thread and still no anwer)
2 Usually demo is representative of the key gameplay features, unless this company is doing some kind of negative PR like a popstar.
3 Don't forget the usage of KINNECT in ME3.  It might also have a very negative impact on the dialog choices quantity although I am not a technical person. 

[Greed1914]

chrisnabal wrote...

GreatCake wrote...

Theobuomai wrote...

Been scrolling thru the ME twitter.  Here's something of note:
______
@masseffect Can anyone affiliated with BW/ME reassure that the complete game is going to be more polished?

@nme_insane Rest easy! The demo is just a demo and there will be far more in the full game!
______

Sure, still vague, but seems  to confirm that the demo really isn't at par with the full game...

This has, indeed, let me rest a bit easier. Still skeptical, though. "Far more" does not mean "more polished." He kind of avoided the question.

Well, I wouldn't think he said far more meaning more content or anything like that, but who knows. In any case, a demo is supposed to give you a sample of the game, a small but accurate representation. If they removed all these things just get both the SP and MP components into it but it looks and plays inferior to the real game, then they don't really understand the objective of a demo. I hope that is the case but I doubt it. This isn't their first time around the block.

See that is the thing that gets me.  I hold out hope that the animations are not indicative of the final product because I simply cannot believe that Bioware thought they looked good, especially compared to ME2.  At the same time, it seems really odd that they'd hamper gameplay in the demo when it is supposed to be a promotional tool to let people sample the game and see if they like it.  Why hold back on character animations when they are integral ot gameplay?

GreatCake wrote...

Arthas9 wrote...

GreatCake wrote...

Theobuomai wrote...

Been scrolling thru the ME twitter.  Here's something of note:
______
@masseffect Can anyone affiliated with BW/ME reassure that the complete game is going to be more polished?

@nme_insane Rest easy! The demo is just a demo and there will be far more in the full game!
______

Sure, still vague, but seems  to confirm that the demo really isn't at par with the full game...

This
has, indeed, let me rest a bit easier. Still skeptical, though. "Far
more" does not mean "more polished." He kind of avoided the question.

Alright.
Yesterday I made contact with one of the devs here (he asked me not to
tell his name and not to publish what he wrote me as it was written - so
I'm going to respect that). He told me that the demo is definitely an older build and that some of the aforementioned problems will have been fixed for the game. He also told me that the dialogue system has way lot more to offer in the retail version
than in the demo (most of the dialogues in the game have more than two
options), and that there will be tons of significant choices which will
have serious impact on the story and universe in the game. He also told
me that the game's script is longer than ME 2's.  That's what I was
told. 


But iSpiN's right: all this hassle could have been
avoided if they had released a more polished version of the demo which
would have resembeled the quality of the final product. Anyway... it's
still a bit reassuring. 

Definitely is reassuring, though not 'game' breaking [smilie]../../../../images/forum/emoticons/pinched.png[/smilie]...see what i did thar

It doesnt address much specifically, but at least it's something.  I've been saying since the demo came out that my big concern (character animations) would be alleviated if they just came out and said that it won't be like this for the final product.  I don't think it's too much to ask for them to comment on something like that.  In fact, if they preemptively said, things like "We had to reduce dialogue, animations, etc." for the sake of the demo size cap, then they wouldn't have nearly so many threads pointing out the same issues. 

[Arthas9]

Well guys, what could I say? I hope what the dev. told me is true too. So, I'm with you in this one. Only two weeks, and we'll know for sure...

Modifié par Arthas9, 22 février 2012 - 11:25 .

[Garrus30]

Rurik948 wrote...

The Bioware still hasn't officially responded  to the concerns about poor dialog choices ( Strange, this concern has been expressed in nearly every second post in Demo Feedback thread and still no anwer)

Look at that way, they didn't say anything like "This won't be changed, it'll be like this in the full game." and they also said (on twitter) there will be also improvement and more content.

It's really weird that they don't give any clear answer to these problems in the demo, but that doesn't mean that it won't be fixed.

Also let me remind you, that the beta leak a few months ago looks exactly the same as this demo, despite the bugs of the beta.
I'm pretty sure that this demo is an old build.
I guess the main focus of this demo would be a sample of both Single and Multiplayer.

Modifié par Garrus30, 23 février 2012 - 10:37 .