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Daywalker315 wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

2 reasons. One in game, one not.

In game, Mass Effect is the story of Commander Shepard and he's human. The story reflects around humans. Commander Shepard being the first human specter in part 1, Cerberus and their human first viewpoint in ME2 and now humanity's fight to stop the reapers in part 3.

Out of game, it is easy for people to associate with earth. Sure, we could have set the story on Tuchanka or Illium or Koozbane or any otehr planet, but as people, we react in a certain way when Earth is in danger.

At least, thats my thoughts.



:devil:


Well Mr. Chris...I honestly could care less about Earth to be honest...i care a whole lot more about how EVERYONE comes out of this. I will sacrifice Earth without a second thought if I have to. I never understood "Oh its the homeworld you gotta care!" why? why should I care just because I live here? Broadcasting "SAVE EARTH OMG!" actually turns me off to the entire thing. Because that makes it seem like all the others races don't mean a damn thing as long as Earth is saved. Also the whole "HUMANS ARE SPECIAL OMG!" thing...again used so we can "relate" to it...its another boreing cliche that turns me off to the experience. I admit I'm alone in this...but thats how it works.


May be semantics to you but honestly, how do people always mess this up? COULDN'T care less ... you're saying the opposite of what you mean. Seems so simple.


yes yes...I realized that afterwards...didn't really think one letter and a dash was worth fussing over.

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Because its home.


This.

Why do people just immediately post whatever's on their mind without giving it a thought?


Maybe because not everyone gives a rats about Earth? maybe some people couldn't care less what happens to it compared to the galaxy as a whole? To just assume we should care "because it's home" is idiotic to put it likely...why the hell should we care just because we live here?

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I don't think I could have such a cavalier attitude about the utter annihilation of my own home planet. The loss of Earth would be an irretrievable disaster and it would mean more than just the extinction of human kind. It's possible that -all- life on the planet could be at risk, right down to the last bacterium that happens to wander into the Reapers field of vision. I realize that according to lore the Reapers mainly target sapient life for annihilation but the rules have changed and it appears to assault on Earth is "personal" at this point. I don't really see how the stakes could be higher, or why anyone would consider any garden world (as it were) expendable without qualification.

In fact I'm wondering myself if ME3 will throw us any decisions of that type, that is prioritizing resources to defend Earth at the expense of some other race (say, the Salarians) and vice versa. Of course, I realize it's just a game, but still you can't just replace planets like Earth, and humanity's history and future potential is just as much worth protecting as anything else. More than that, why wouldn't it be natural to aspire to defend what one has, it's not like a majority of people are so utterly pragmatic that they'd equivocate over the loss of everything they've ever known. I just don't know if I could consign Earth to oblivion even in such dire circumstances.

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kylecouch wrote...

Garrus Kavarian wrote...

neubourn wrote...

Because its home.


This.

Why do people just immediately post whatever's on their mind without giving it a thought?


Maybe because not everyone gives a rats about Earth? maybe some people couldn't care less what happens to it compared to the galaxy as a whole? To just assume we should care "because it's home" is idiotic to put it likely...why the hell should we care just because we live here?

  



Earth is our home planet. saving it is a must .

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CerberusSoldier wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

Garrus Kavarian wrote...

neubourn wrote...

Because its home.


This.

Why do people just immediately post whatever's on their mind without giving it a thought?


Maybe because not everyone gives a rats about Earth? maybe some people couldn't care less what happens to it compared to the galaxy as a whole? To just assume we should care "because it's home" is idiotic to put it likely...why the hell should we care just because we live here?

  



Earth is our home planet. saving it is a must .


This. Its our home. it's wher the bulk of hummanity still resides, how can you not be sympathetic to millions of humans dying. You think that the other races are worring about others before themseves? Its called self preservation, its a basic instinct that most creatures have. If Earth is completely destroyed/harvested that severly weakens humanities standing in the galaxy, your argument about paragon Shepard thinking about the "big picture" before thinking of Earth may be true for your cannon Shep, but mine wants to protect our planet. Besides how many times did our warnings to the council fall on deaf ears? Well now they can suck it! :devil:

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lightsnow13 wrote...

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I think the only thing that bothered me was when the female krogan asks why shepard is so intent on saving her and he replies "You're earths last hope."

It makes shepard seem very selfish. "Sorry aliens! But earth is far more important than your planets right now!"

  


Earth is the focus of Mass Effect 3 even Shepard makes that clear in the demo . he or she has no intrest in even speaking with the council its clear Earth is what Shepard wants to save


Yes, but you kind of have to understand the reapers aren't just going to stop with earth.. "Well, that's it guys! We got ourselves our humans to make into a human reaper baby! Lets go home!"

That would be ridiculous. This is one of those times you have to look at the big picture.

    





I am going to go to hell and back to save Earth in ME 3 a long with the krogans and Asari . Earth is my main focus in 3

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kylecouch wrote...

Daywalker315 wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

2 reasons. One in game, one not.

In game, Mass Effect is the story of Commander Shepard and he's human. The story reflects around humans. Commander Shepard being the first human specter in part 1, Cerberus and their human first viewpoint in ME2 and now humanity's fight to stop the reapers in part 3.

Out of game, it is easy for people to associate with earth. Sure, we could have set the story on Tuchanka or Illium or Koozbane or any otehr planet, but as people, we react in a certain way when Earth is in danger.

At least, thats my thoughts.



:devil:


Well Mr. Chris...I honestly could care less about Earth to be honest...i care a whole lot more about how EVERYONE comes out of this. I will sacrifice Earth without a second thought if I have to. I never understood "Oh its the homeworld you gotta care!" why? why should I care just because I live here? Broadcasting "SAVE EARTH OMG!" actually turns me off to the entire thing. Because that makes it seem like all the others races don't mean a damn thing as long as Earth is saved. Also the whole "HUMANS ARE SPECIAL OMG!" thing...again used so we can "relate" to it...its another boreing cliche that turns me off to the experience. I admit I'm alone in this...but thats how it works.


May be semantics to you but honestly, how do people always mess this up? COULDN'T care less ... you're saying the opposite of what you mean. Seems so simple.


yes yes...I realized that afterwards...didn't really think one letter and a dash was worth fussing over.



You claim to play paragon but you would sacrifice earth without a second thought? Why this stong dislike of the planet you call home? :(

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I am going to toss in my two cents without having read the 6 other pages because I don't have time for that.
My beef is that saving Earth has been the topic of soooo many games, movies, books etc. I can't think of many other series that have created such a lush and interesting fiction of the galaxy, aside from Mass Effect. The way I see it they're dialing themselves back creatively from all of their interesting creations. I am going to repeat what many commenters have said before in this regard for emphasis: "Earth is boring, I would know I've been there." Compared to Tuchanka, the Citadel, Virmire, Noveria, Omega, etc. etc. etc. Earth is lame!
I have faith that BioWare will make it interesting because that's what they do, but still. Its funny, in the last couple games I've wanted to go to Earth just because I saw it there, but now that its front and center I'm very uninterested.

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Spectre 007 wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

Daywalker315 wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

2 reasons. One in game, one not.

In game, Mass Effect is the story of Commander Shepard and he's human. The story reflects around humans. Commander Shepard being the first human specter in part 1, Cerberus and their human first viewpoint in ME2 and now humanity's fight to stop the reapers in part 3.

Out of game, it is easy for people to associate with earth. Sure, we could have set the story on Tuchanka or Illium or Koozbane or any otehr planet, but as people, we react in a certain way when Earth is in danger.

At least, thats my thoughts.



:devil:


Well Mr. Chris...I honestly could care less about Earth to be honest...i care a whole lot more about how EVERYONE comes out of this. I will sacrifice Earth without a second thought if I have to. I never understood "Oh its the homeworld you gotta care!" why? why should I care just because I live here? Broadcasting "SAVE EARTH OMG!" actually turns me off to the entire thing. Because that makes it seem like all the others races don't mean a damn thing as long as Earth is saved. Also the whole "HUMANS ARE SPECIAL OMG!" thing...again used so we can "relate" to it...its another boreing cliche that turns me off to the experience. I admit I'm alone in this...but thats how it works.


May be semantics to you but honestly, how do people always mess this up? COULDN'T care less ... you're saying the opposite of what you mean. Seems so simple.


yes yes...I realized that afterwards...didn't really think one letter and a dash was worth fussing over.



You claim to play paragon but you would sacrifice earth without a second thought? Why this stong dislike of the planet you call home? :(


I don't dislike it...theres just no reason at all to care about it MORE than everyone else. period. My Shepard has never been to Earth before this...he was not born on Earth, Earth means nothing at all to him. My Shepard has no reason at all to really care besides the fact that innocent people are dieing. Which is happening around the galaxy as well. Just because Shepard is human...and we the players are humans..does not automaticlly make Earth more importent than EVERYONE ELSE. I will try to save Earth if I can...but I would absolutely sacrifice it without any hesitation if it meant more lives would be saved otherwise. I'm just rather sick of this "YOU ARE HUMAN! CARE ABOUT EARTH!" attitude. Yes it's a garden world...which is extreamly rare I admit. But all garden worlds have the same level of importence in my book. Earth does not sit at the top of the list "just cuz humans live there." If the fate of the entire Galaxy depends on Earths destruction you bet your ass I'll go with whatever saves more lives in the long run, be they Turian, Asari, Batarians or whatever else. The mear fact that I myself am human...and Shepard is human...and Bioware is going WAY out of their way to sell the "HUMANS ARE DYING! SAVE THE HUMANS!" thing just to "make us care" about it just don't work for me. I personally find it insulting, I don't care about humans more than everyone else "just cuz I'm human" I am not a self preservation type of person. I would gladly sacrifice myself for an alien race, Yes even Batarians. I see things from a purely moral standpoint. I have no emotinal connection to the human race that makes them more importent to me than every other life in the galaxy.  

Even my Renegade FemShep who is Earthborn don't particularly care...because her life on Earth totaly sucked. There was nothing for her to lose by leaveing Earth. She still has nothing to lose by loseing the planet eaither. However she cares more about humans than my Paragon Shep does...but the point remains she is above all the pragmatist.  

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kylecouch wrote...

Spectre 007 wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

Daywalker315 wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

2 reasons. One in game, one not.

In game, Mass Effect is the story of Commander Shepard and he's human. The story reflects around humans. Commander Shepard being the first human specter in part 1, Cerberus and their human first viewpoint in ME2 and now humanity's fight to stop the reapers in part 3.

Out of game, it is easy for people to associate with earth. Sure, we could have set the story on Tuchanka or Illium or Koozbane or any otehr planet, but as people, we react in a certain way when Earth is in danger.

At least, thats my thoughts.



:devil:


Well Mr. Chris...I honestly could care less about Earth to be honest...i care a whole lot more about how EVERYONE comes out of this. I will sacrifice Earth without a second thought if I have to. I never understood "Oh its the homeworld you gotta care!" why? why should I care just because I live here? Broadcasting "SAVE EARTH OMG!" actually turns me off to the entire thing. Because that makes it seem like all the others races don't mean a damn thing as long as Earth is saved. Also the whole "HUMANS ARE SPECIAL OMG!" thing...again used so we can "relate" to it...its another boreing cliche that turns me off to the experience. I admit I'm alone in this...but thats how it works.


May be semantics to you but honestly, how do people always mess this up? COULDN'T care less ... you're saying the opposite of what you mean. Seems so simple.


yes yes...I realized that afterwards...didn't really think one letter and a dash was worth fussing over.



You claim to play paragon but you would sacrifice earth without a second thought? Why this stong dislike of the planet you call home? :(


I don't dislike it...theres just no reason at all to care about it MORE than everyone else. period. My Shepard has never been to Earth before this...he was not born on Earth, Earth means nothing at all to him. My Shepard has no reason at all to really care besides the fact that innocent people are dieing. Which is happening around the galaxy as well. Just because Shepard is human...and we the players are humans..does not automaticlly make Earth more importent than EVERYONE ELSE. I will try to save Earth if I can...but I would absolutely sacrifice it without any hesitation if it meant more lives would be saved otherwise. I'm just rather sick of this "YOU ARE HUMAN! CARE ABOUT EARTH!" attitude. Yes it's a garden world...which is extreamly rare I admit. But all garden worlds have the same level of importence in my book. Earth does not sit at the top of the list "just cuz humans live there." If the fate of the entire Galaxy depends on Earths destruction you bet your ass I'll go with whatever saves more lives in the long run, be they Turian, Asari, Batarians or whatever else. The mear fact that I myself am human...and Shepard is human...and Bioware is going WAY out of their way to sell the "HUMANS ARE DYING! SAVE THE HUMANS!" thing just to "make us care" about it just don't work for me. I personally find it insulting, I don't care about humans more than everyone else "just cuz I'm human" I am not a self preservation type of person. I would gladly sacrifice myself for an alien race, Yes even Batarians. I see things from a purely moral standpoint. I have no emotinal connection to the human race that makes them more importent to me than every other life in the galaxy.  


None of that makes sense.

First of all, prioritizing the familiar is a base human instinct. You can argue against it because you're not really in the conflict.

Second, Earth is a strategic point in the war. There isn't save Earth or everyone else, it's save Earth or everyone dies. Even if it weren't, you're honestly considering ceding worlds to the enemy? 

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GnusmasTHX wrote...

None of that makes sense.

First of all, prioritizing the familiar is a base human instinct. You can argue against it because you're not really in the conflict.

Second, Earth is a strategic point in the war. There isn't save Earth or everyone else, it's save Earth or everyone dies. Even if it weren't, you're honestly considering ceding worlds to the enemy? 


There is nothing MORE "strategicly importent" about Earth then any other planet in the ENITRE Galaxy other than "Bioware said so". And I highly doubt EVERYONE ELSE in the ENTIRE galaxy will die if Earth is not saved...thats clearly being overdramatic in an attempt to sell the "YOU ARE HUMAN! CARE ABOUT IT!" concept. I guess it just seems your totaly unable to comprehend that I am not emotionally bound to things I find familiar. if it was for the greater good of all I would totaly give up everything I care about. I may not like it...but I would do it because it's the right thing to do. I find it insulting from a moral standpoint that I should care about Earth more just because I more resemble the people who live there.  Besides that...I very much doubt they have obliterated EVERY other human colony in the galaxy. I assume places like Terra Nova are not yet destroid. If that is the case. Earth can simply be re inhabited once the Reapers have been defeated. So no your not really "giving the enemy territory". Like I said...I will save Earth if I can...because innocents are being killed. But if the only way to save the galaxy and to stop the Reapers once and for all...is to let Earth die...then yes...I will let it die to ensure all future life is spared that fate.

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Spectre 007 wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

Daywalker315 wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

2 reasons. One in game, one not.

In game, Mass Effect is the story of Commander Shepard and he's human. The story reflects around humans. Commander Shepard being the first human specter in part 1, Cerberus and their human first viewpoint in ME2 and now humanity's fight to stop the reapers in part 3.

Out of game, it is easy for people to associate with earth. Sure, we could have set the story on Tuchanka or Illium or Koozbane or any otehr planet, but as people, we react in a certain way when Earth is in danger.

At least, thats my thoughts.



:devil:


Well Mr. Chris...I honestly could care less about Earth to be honest...i care a whole lot more about how EVERYONE comes out of this. I will sacrifice Earth without a second thought if I have to. I never understood "Oh its the homeworld you gotta care!" why? why should I care just because I live here? Broadcasting "SAVE EARTH OMG!" actually turns me off to the entire thing. Because that makes it seem like all the others races don't mean a damn thing as long as Earth is saved. Also the whole "HUMANS ARE SPECIAL OMG!" thing...again used so we can "relate" to it...its another boreing cliche that turns me off to the experience. I admit I'm alone in this...but thats how it works.


May be semantics to you but honestly, how do people always mess this up? COULDN'T care less ... you're saying the opposite of what you mean. Seems so simple.


yes yes...I realized that afterwards...didn't really think one letter and a dash was worth fussing over.



You claim to play paragon but you would sacrifice earth without a second thought? Why this stong dislike of the planet you call home? :(



The galaxy>earth.   Earth is just one planet.  Humans are just one species.

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JeffZero wrote...

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We are humans, we play as a human and are most familiar with Earth as our home.

I don't see why its so hard for some people to understand. It might strike such a vibrant chord in you, but for many it does.


Then why didn't they allow us to play on earth for a while on previous games?

We might be humans but we know crap about how earth's fairing in the ME world.


Earth's codex entry sums things up pretty well, really. That's... a lot more than most games will give us about places we don't visit.


What? "Mostly harmless."?

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Elios wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

G3rman wrote...

We are humans, we play as a human and are most familiar with Earth as our home.

I don't see why its so hard for some people to understand. It might strike such a vibrant chord in you, but for many it does.


Then why didn't they allow us to play on earth for a while on previous games?

We might be humans but we know crap about how earth's fairing in the ME world.


Earth's codex entry sums things up pretty well, really. That's... a lot more than most games will give us about places we don't visit.


What? "Mostly harmless."?

Making the codex entry on Earth consist of just 'Mostly harmless' would've been one of the greatest easter eggs possible.

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Each game so far has focused on humanity and their place in the ME universe.

ME1: Shepard is the first human Spectre, hunting down a rogue Spectre who has attacked human colonies with an army of Geth.

ME2: human colonies are being abducted by the Collectors so that the Reapers can build a Human Reaper.

ME3: Earth is lost, and humanity cannot survive without the aid of the rest of the galaxy.

While the overarching goal of each game is to stop the Reapers, the individual stories of each game revolve around humanity to some extent. ME1 is the story of Shepard hunting Saren down and preventing him from attacking humanity. ME2 is the story of Shepard assembling a team to ultimately attack the Collector homeworld and prevent attacks on humanity. ME3 is the story of Shepard trying to unite the galaxy against the Reapers, and taking the fight to them by attempting to take back Earth.

The human focus is nothing new.

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

Spectre 007 wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

Daywalker315 wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

2 reasons. One in game, one not.

In game, Mass Effect is the story of Commander Shepard and he's human. The story reflects around humans. Commander Shepard being the first human specter in part 1, Cerberus and their human first viewpoint in ME2 and now humanity's fight to stop the reapers in part 3.

Out of game, it is easy for people to associate with earth. Sure, we could have set the story on Tuchanka or Illium or Koozbane or any otehr planet, but as people, we react in a certain way when Earth is in danger.

At least, thats my thoughts.



:devil:


Well Mr. Chris...I honestly could care less about Earth to be honest...i care a whole lot more about how EVERYONE comes out of this. I will sacrifice Earth without a second thought if I have to. I never understood "Oh its the homeworld you gotta care!" why? why should I care just because I live here? Broadcasting "SAVE EARTH OMG!" actually turns me off to the entire thing. Because that makes it seem like all the others races don't mean a damn thing as long as Earth is saved. Also the whole "HUMANS ARE SPECIAL OMG!" thing...again used so we can "relate" to it...its another boreing cliche that turns me off to the experience. I admit I'm alone in this...but thats how it works.


May be semantics to you but honestly, how do people always mess this up? COULDN'T care less ... you're saying the opposite of what you mean. Seems so simple.


yes yes...I realized that afterwards...didn't really think one letter and a dash was worth fussing over.



You claim to play paragon but you would sacrifice earth without a second thought? Why this stong dislike of the planet you call home? :(



The galaxy>earth.   Earth is just one planet.  Humans are just one species.


Yes...just once species. but they are a speices that wants more than everyone else. They don't want to wait for the the privledges that other races have to wait thousands of years to get. They want as much power as they can possibly take without any regard to how the Aliens run things. The Turians could have bombed the humans into none exsistence, yet the Council stoped that from happening. Humans repay that by being aggresive and demanding more...always more. They were only around for like 30 or so years and already demanding to be on the Council and having human Spectres. 

But I digress. This guy sees sense, he knows whats truly importent.

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Candidate 88766 wrote...

Each game so far has focused on humanity and their place in the ME universe.

ME1: Shepard is the first human Spectre, hunting down a rogue Spectre who has attacked human colonies with an army of Geth.

ME2: human colonies are being abducted by the Collectors so that the Reapers can build a Human Reaper.

ME3: Earth is lost, and humanity cannot survive without the aid of the rest of the galaxy.

While the overarching goal of each game is to stop the Reapers, the individual stories of each game revolve around humanity to some extent. ME1 is the story of Shepard hunting Saren down and preventing him from attacking humanity. ME2 is the story of Shepard assembling a team to ultimately attack the Collector homeworld and prevent attacks on humanity. ME3 is the story of Shepard trying to unite the galaxy against the Reapers, and taking the fight to them by attempting to take back Earth.

The human focus is nothing new.


No...nothing new, that does not however make it any less insulting from a moral standpoint. Because it always implies humans are the only race that matters.

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Earth is the birth place of humanity, a symbol of the human spirit. While I wouldn't prioritize it over any other world in the same situation (innocent lives are innocent lives no matter the species) seeing earth in that situation does resonate more with us because the idea of danger to our homes, our people/friends/family provokes a fight or flight response, a response written into our very DNA, a response that may not be triggered by viewing any other world under attack.

Also, haven't humans become a resource to the reapers? making earth a strategic resource which will provide the reapers with an even more dominant foothold in the galaxy. Kind makes earth pretty darn important if you ask me.

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AdrynBliss wrote...

Earth is the birth place of humanity, a symbol of the human spirit. While I wouldn't prioritize it over any other world in the same situation (innocent lives are innocent lives no matter the species) seeing earth in that situation does resonate more with us because the idea of danger to our homes, our people/friends/family provokes a fight or flight response, a response written into our very DNA, a response that may not be triggered by viewing any other world under attack.

Also, haven't humans become a resource to the reapers? making earth a strategic resource which will provide the reapers with an even more dominant foothold in the galaxy. Kind makes earth pretty darn important if you ask me.


^This Earth is very important to humanity's morale, the same can be said with any other species and thier homeworld

Shepard may be pro-alien, but he/she will never leave humanity to die, Shepard is a human and will always show concern for humanity

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The Earth is the homeworld of the protagonist and the cradle of our species. I think most people placed in such a situation would find that saving the Earth strikes more of an emotional chord than, say, "fight to take back Tuchanka" or "fight to save the galaxy from the Reapers." Having one's home and family threatened can be a powerful incentive to fight. The whole "take back Earth" thing strikes me as being a source of motivation, nothing more (and certainly not the literal focus of the entire game like some people have posited in other threads).

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Because it has the biggest human population on a single planet. The reapers are after humans, ergo, Earth is one of their priorities.

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Mass effect was always about humanity making their mark, Shepard represents humanity, were a young race looked down upon by all the other races, now it's time to kick the backside of the greatest threat of all time!!! WE SHEPARD'S WILL SHOW THE PUNY ALIEN RACES THAT HUMAN KIND IS THE GREATEST OF LIFEFORMS EVER!!!

Let's show the galaxy that it was always about us (humanity)

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kylecouch wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

None of that makes sense.

First of all, prioritizing the familiar is a base human instinct. You can argue against it because you're not really in the conflict.

Second, Earth is a strategic point in the war. There isn't save Earth or everyone else, it's save Earth or everyone dies. Even if it weren't, you're honestly considering ceding worlds to the enemy? 


There is nothing MORE "strategicly importent" about Earth then any other planet in the ENITRE Galaxy other than "Bioware said so". And I highly doubt EVERYONE ELSE in the ENTIRE galaxy will die if Earth is not saved...thats clearly being overdramatic in an attempt to sell the "YOU ARE HUMAN! CARE ABOUT IT!" concept. I guess it just seems your totaly unable to comprehend that I am not emotionally bound to things I find familiar. if it was for the greater good of all I would totaly give up everything I care about. I may not like it...but I would do it because it's the right thing to do. I find it insulting from a moral standpoint that I should care about Earth more just because I more resemble the people who live there.  Besides that...I very much doubt they have obliterated EVERY other human colony in the galaxy. I assume places like Terra Nova are not yet destroid. If that is the case. Earth can simply be re inhabited once the Reapers have been defeated. So no your not really "giving the enemy territory". Like I said...I will save Earth if I can...because innocents are being killed. But if the only way to save the galaxy and to stop the Reapers once and for all...is to let Earth die...then yes...I will let it die to ensure all future life is spared that fate.


Uh, except for that it is the "front line" of the war and has the strongest concentration of Reapers?

Seriously all of this has been explained or showed to us by press. Read the script and find out more about why the fight takes place on Earth.

It seems you're unable to simply understand the conflict at hand. Also it's not about territory, as much as it is, you're giving the Reapers exactly what they want, an army of husks and Reapers to attack the rest of the galaxy. 

Seriously, a little thinking on your part and you'd realize there's more to the battle taking place on Earth than you presently realize. If it is like you say, it would be impossible to convince anyone to help out, and yet Shepard convinces everyone to help out. Earth is of strategic importance, in more than one way.

Thinkhard.

Modifié par GnusmasTHX, 16 février 2012 - 10:42 .