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[Kaiser Arian XVII]

The place to share your opinions. Shall the conclusion be sort of standard.

First of all, it doesn't matter that the full score is what number. 5, 10 or 100 etc. .. 8.5/10 means 85/100 and 4.25/5

Thus we should attend to "which parameters are more important to score games?". So I focus on RPGs, because in other genres, Graphic and Gameplay might be the most important factors.

I suggest from 1-10:

1 plain score for the existence of the game: No game deserves score: 0!
1 for sound effects, music and voice acting (So this score will be from 0.1 to 1.0)
1.5 for Graphic and visual effects
3.5 for Story and Plot
1.5 for Gameplay and action parts of the game
1.5 for Characters, factions, impressions etc.
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Total: 10

So is it good enough or you want to suggest a better standard?

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update: 12/29/2013

I find it meh that people may score a game based on how they're p*ssed off or excited about an LI or an small matter to 10/10 or below 5/10.

Questions that their answers might help all of us with scoring:

- What if we consider to raise or lower the score limit of Gameplay, Story etc. in different genres from 10? Like lowering the Story points of Racing games to 1 and raise the gameplay to 5-7?

- How much score should Story, Choices and Consequences, Gameplay, Graphic, Sound and Music have in RPGs? Which one dominate the 10 points of score (like Story 4- C&C 3 or etc.)?

- Is it OK to just score video games based on your feelings or actually you should do it based on your comprehensive analyzes?

- Which website has better video game scoring? IGN, Metacritic, Gamespot, Angry Joe or etc.?

And there is some conflicts down there... just ignore them!

Modifié par Jedi Sentinel Arian, 29 décembre 2013 - 08:40 .

[Nameless one7]

Mine would be as follows.

3.5 story and plot
2.5 gameplay
1 for sound effects, music and voice acting
1 for Characters factions, and impressions.
1 for graphics and visual effects
1 for replayability

[fchopin]

I would score all the different points out of 10 or a 100 then get an average.

I would also score music by itself and the same for voice and sound effects.

[Giggles_Manically]

How much fun I have.

A game can have great mechanics or a story but if I dont find it fun...I would not score it well.
End of the day all that matters is how much fun I had.

[Skypezee]

I don't believe in scoring games if only because in the end it doesn't say much about the game. I only care to hear the complex opinions about it.

[Aravius]

I love quality voice acting. IMHO, the Female Shep scores a 10, while the Male Shep scores a 3.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

fchopin wrote...

I would score all the different points out of 10 or a 100 then get an average.

I would also score music by itself and the same for voice and sound effects.

But how many factors?

For Example ... unknown game:
Sound Effects: 77
Music: 86
VA: 91
Gameplay: 83
Story: 94
Graphic and VE: 65
Plot: 82
Characters and factions: 92

So the average is: 83.75 ~ 84

@Others, How many factors? 6 or 8 or more?

[bmwcrazy]

Gameplay: 1 point
Story: 1 point
Graphics and sound: 1 point
****** and asses: 7 points

+ Bonus points for uncensored nudity

Modifié par bmwcrazy, 17 février 2012 - 02:17 .

[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

bmwcrazy wrote...

Gameplay: 1 point
Story: 1 point
Graphics and sound: 1 point
****** and asses: 7 points

+ Bonus points for uncensored nudity

Logical.

[CoffeeHolic93]

Like Giggles said, it depends on how much fun I have.

I don't care if it's the story that draws me in, if it's the puzzles, the characters, the combat, the exploration or whatever the game may be trying to do - as long as it does that thing well.


...Yep, that's about it. I'm easy to please.

[Chanegade]

I think scores are dumb. You can score in sports but you can't score art.

I also always remember what Yahtzee from Zero Punctuation said once in an interview. When he was asked why he never used scores in his reviews, he replied "You don't give a Mona Lisa a score"

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Chanegade wrote...

I think scores are dumb. You can score in sports but you can't score art.

I also always remember what Yahtzee from Zero Punctuation said once in an interview. When he was asked why he never used scores in his reviews, he replied "You don't give a Mona Lisa a score"

You can score art, Beethoven > Lady Gaga

Also games are not pure art. You can indeed score graphic based on artistic style.

The point is at the end if you give most of the points to Graphic or Gameplay (or Romance) you are not a good RPG scorer ... this is injustice. Also a sport game's score is mostly based on Gameplay, Graphic and sound effects; Story has nothing to do with this genre.

For example DA2's score is approximately 7/10. if you give it 9.5 or 3 you did it wrong.

Finally what we should seek is how many factors ... the score you give to each factor is up to you.

[Fishy]

My final appreciation of a game ain't a deduction of every aspect.
For instance I could give a 3/10 for graphic and a 7/10 for the story but the game would still score a 9/10 because I had FUUUUUUUUUUUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some story are very cliched but still fun and unboring.

Yes Fun. Little thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing called fuuun. YEAAAAAAAAAAH!!!

[Fishy]

Oh and Beethoven ain't superior than Lady Gaga. It's called taste and opinions. Just because you enjoy something old and outdated which was moderately popular during the time being does not make you a genius or a superior life form.

Oh and when beethoven was popular I am pretty sure a lot of people during that time hated it and called it mainstream noise.

Modifié par Suprez30, 17 février 2012 - 10:25 .

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Suprez30 wrote...

Oh and Beethoven ain't superior than Lady Gaga. It's called taste and opinions. Just because you enjoy something old and outdated which was moderately popular during the time being does not make you a genius or a superior life form.

Oh and when beethoven was popular I am pretty sure a lot of people during that time hated it and called it mainstream noise.

You've just been erased ... None shall call Beethoven outdated, consider arts of Lady Gaga and Beethoven equal in value, and stay as my friend. And I'm sick of "Everything is subjective, except science" therefore "No one is right, so let's say and do everything we want" bullcraps ... 

Modifié par Kaiser Arian, 29 décembre 2013 - 08:39 .

[Lotion Soronarr]

I generaly use a "crap", "below average", "average", "above average", "great" rating system.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

This thread is updated and revived to obtain its salvation.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

J. Reezy wrote...

Lol @ standardizing peoples' opinions.

Lol @ Mr. lulz-A-lot

This thread isn't about everyone giving a game the same score. Not that kind of Standard.
If you think the story of a RPG is garbage, fine... that game shouldn't get 0/10 or 1/10. The story is part of the score but not the entirety of it (almost half the score is my reasonable suggestion). If the story is masterpiece but there is awful gameplay, C&C, graphic and very weak sound effects and music that game shouldn't get more than 5/10.

[frustratemyself]

Jedi Sentinel Arian wrote...

...Is it OK to just score video games based on your feelings or actually you should do it based on your comprehensive analyzes?...

A review is always going to be based on someones feeling because it is a subjective opinion. Even when using a specific set of criteria, if 5 different people are reviewing you are likely to get 5 completely different opinions. 

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Desirable scoring can be seen in the reviews of BioShock infinite:

Computer and Video Games 9.1/10
Destructoid 10/10
Edge 9/10
Electronic Gaming Monthly 10/10
Eurogamer 10/10
Famitsu 37/40
Game Informer 10/10
GameSpot 9/10
IGN (PC) 9.5/10
(PS3/X360) 9.4/10
Joystiq 5/5 stars
Official PlayStation Magazine (UK) 10/10
Official Xbox Magazine 9.5/10
PC Gamer UK 91%
VideoGamer.com 8/10

GameRankings (PS3) 95.94%
(PC) 92.62%
(X360) 91.89%
Metacritic (PS3) 94/100
(PC) 94/100
(X360) 93/100

Not much different.

[Get Magna Carter]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

I generaly use a "crap", "below average", "average", "above average", "great" rating system.

sounds right to me

The notion of 8.5 out of 10 for a game that looks and sounds nice but is a nightmare to play seems wrong.

of course, all scores are subjective and depend on the criteria applied and personal tastes of the scorer.
I think reviewers are too focussed on standard genres and too keen to mark down any games which try to be different because they don't imitate well enough (and then moan about the lack of originality in games).

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

J. Reezy wrote...

Do you feel powerful posting this?

Seriously though, what are these scores proving besides critical acclaim? This has nothing to do with your standardization.

lolwut? fite me in RL...

Yes it does. No serious reviewer gives it a 5/10 or 2/10. Only random idiots or emotionally unstable gamers might have done that.

So It's decided... We rate video games how Lotion does it, at first and then for the detailed score we still need a method, not random scores. May consensus be reached.