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[exskeeny]

Let's face it, someone's pile of gold is anothers pile of poo. what does get tiresome are the multitude of threads that say the same thing over and over. I'm looking at the haters and the lovers here. Whatever anyone thinks, if there's a feedback thread open for either the demo or the full game then use that. nobodies opinion, unless groundbreakingly new and never thought of before, is worth a brand new thread. sorry to burst some peoples bubble there but it's my opinion and I hope that you respect that.

I, personally, am very much looking forward to the game being released. I don't think it will be a masterpiece but I hope I am pleasantly surprised. If not oh well. I will still have a game that I can play through again using different decisions if I wish and I will also have experienced the end of a great series so far.

just my ramblings feel free to ignore

[PinkDiamondstl]

The game looks good. People are morons and those same morons believe that Kingdoms of Amalur is a good game.

Modifié par PinkDiamondstl, 17 février 2012 - 12:58 .

[Aurellia]

I for one found the single player game a good improvement over ME2 that addressed most of ME2 shortcomings. The Surr'kesh section suffered from some of the same flaws as ME2 such as significantly hampered powers (until you build to work around it), dodgy controls for run/cover/roll and mostly small highly constrained movement. After playing through 6 times (basically one for each class) I was glad it was the improvement it was over ME2.

However after a couple nights of playing MP in huge battlefield zones with a properly built Adept, I am in love with the new game. The issues from Surr'kesh have mostly gone away due to better level design. Although the final area in demo Surr'kesh is pretty nice.

I hope the rest of the single player game is more like the multiplayer maps rather than just bifurcated corridor shooter maps.  But even if it is not, I'll have a blast playing with the new and improved cooldown mechanics.

PS: I didn't like the demo of Reckoning: KoA but I picked up the full game and found it surprisingly fun.  It's too bad that ME3 MP kind of stole the show so I haven't played KoA since that came out.

Modifié par Aurellia, 17 février 2012 - 01:01 .

[nitefyre410]

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

The game looks good. People are morons and those same morons believe that Kingdoms of Amalur is a good game.

   
 
You know I was going to say something  about KoA an the gameplay sounds cool but the story sound like Generic fantasy land #10... but this pic  is sooooo much  win that  I completly forgot about it . 

[KotorEffect3]

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

The game looks good. People are morons and those same morons believe that Kingdoms of Amalur is a good game.

I wasn't impressed by the KoA demo but at least I am getting some ME 3 gear out of it.

[Matt251287]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Matt251287 wrote...

mushoops86anjyl wrote...

And how is it tearing itself apart?

Where should we begin?, i'm going to be honest i have very limited time for long forum posts, but i do want to discuss and i'll try and keep it subjective.

There's

- The Origin Situation-Irrelevant to us console players
- The DLC Tsunami-Would you prefer never to get extra content?
- The Exclusive contents-Will give you that
- The random re-threading of the greater storyline, patched up with 99p storytape
----- See Prothean Situation.
----- See ME2 storyline pointless situation-Not pointless at all, ME 2 introduced key characters (TIM, Mordin, Harbinger etc...) and it fleshed out the galaxy as well as giving context to situations like the genophage and the geth/quarian conflict

- Characters invented for Fanservice (see Chobot)-because trying to make fans happy is bad now?  Note I am not talking about the Chobot character but I hate it when people use the term "fanservice" as if that is a bad thing.
- General dumbing down of game-features (see Cutscene Shep)There were times way back in ME 1 where Shepard would say the same thing no matter what dialog option the player chose, they are simply cutting out the middle man in those situations
- Shafting of PC players (no high-rez textures, console porting much more obvious than ME2)-I've got news for you.  The world does not revolve around PC players.  The franchise was orignaly developed for the console
- Some quite bad issues in demo, the everything button is a big one
- Demo's complete lack of drama and soul (hints at indifference from Bioware staff)-Did you want to see the reapers cry or something?  Actualy that would be funny
- Lack of dramatic trailers, lots of little vids about this feature and that, just a huge lack of impact really, like no one cares about the product itself as much as selling it.-People want to know what features they will be getting, besides they are going to release a big dramatic CGI trailer on Sunday.


There's definitly more; All i'm saying is there's alot to make a fan nervous and i hate being proved right all the time.

Sigh, you do realise that writing text underneath all of my points does not completely invalidate them?

This is exactly the kind of circular argument i hoped to avoid:

I point out something that IN MY OPINION is lacking in the game - You make excuses for Bioware - I counterpoint your counterpoints, you counterpoint my counter-counterpoints - we build the pyramid of Giza together...


Furthermore your points are mostly sarcasm or generaly pedantic, like
- Your irrelevance is irrelevant to PC players.
- I'd prefer it in the game, one game, for everyone. (If it's made already it's only pure greed holding it back, more content should come later.
- Oh thanks for your permission:whistle:
- There's no need to fully explain the ME2 situatuion here, there have been whole threads dedicated to it, there are many who feel there has been some weak storytelling.
- I don't generaly use the term, except for Chobot, which is pretty ridiculous.
- This is an excuse.
- No-one's saying it does, the fact is if a game was ported from PC to console and that fact somehow made it sub-standard amongst console games, alot of people would be unhappy.
- I don't think this is even deserving of response, weak sarcasm is weak.
- I'm looking foward to it, story-based draw to this game has been pretty dry.

Modifié par Matt251287, 17 février 2012 - 01:13 .

[Labrev]

For all the due criticism and such, I can still say confidently and unequivocally that ME3 is better than ME2, which while enjoyable, was a very mediocre story when it came down to it. The worst of ME3 isn't worse than that of ME2 either.

I doubt it'll best what ME1 had going other than in terms of gameplay, but it should otherwise be a great finish.

[KotorEffect3]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

For all the due criticism and such, I can still say confidently and unequivocally that ME3 is better than ME2, which while enjoyable, was a very mediocre story when it came down to it. The worst of ME3 isn't worse than that of ME2 either.

Actually it is a lot worst.

The worst parts of ME2 are Horizon, the planning of the Suicide Mission, and the Collector/Prothean connection. So we have two plot-holes and a plot-twist that falls flat.

The worst of ME3 is a deluge of bad ideas and fan pandering.

Well we can't debate that without getting into spoilers

[android654]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

For all the due criticism and such, I can still say confidently and unequivocally that ME3 is better than ME2, which while enjoyable, was a very mediocre story when it came down to it. The worst of ME3 isn't worse than that of ME2 either.

Actually it is a lot worst.

The worst parts of ME2 are Horizon, the planning of the Suicide Mission, and the Collector/Prothean connection. So we have two plot-holes and a plot-twist that falls flat.

The worst of ME3 is a deluge of bad ideas and fan pandering.

Well we can't debate that without getting into spoilers

Without spoilers, it's very clear to whom they catered.

[Sith Reaper]

Guldhun2 wrote...

Because we've all seen what happened with DA2 and TOR. And the ME3 demo isn't helping.

Have you played TOR? It's doing quite well at the moment.

[CuseGirl]

Limited Miranda Lawson, while Tali/Garrus/VS is permanent squaddie and no choice for Shep to say "this is who I want to work with"

[KotorEffect3]

android654 wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

For all the due criticism and such, I can still say confidently and unequivocally that ME3 is better than ME2, which while enjoyable, was a very mediocre story when it came down to it. The worst of ME3 isn't worse than that of ME2 either.

Actually it is a lot worst.

The worst parts of ME2 are Horizon, the planning of the Suicide Mission, and the Collector/Prothean connection. So we have two plot-holes and a plot-twist that falls flat.

The worst of ME3 is a deluge of bad ideas and fan pandering.

Well we can't debate that without getting into spoilers

Without spoilers, it's very clear to whom they catered.

Oh really?

[CitizenSnips]

android654 wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

For all the due criticism and such, I can still say confidently and unequivocally that ME3 is better than ME2, which while enjoyable, was a very mediocre story when it came down to it. The worst of ME3 isn't worse than that of ME2 either.

Actually it is a lot worst.

The worst parts of ME2 are Horizon, the planning of the Suicide Mission, and the Collector/Prothean connection. So we have two plot-holes and a plot-twist that falls flat.

The worst of ME3 is a deluge of bad ideas and fan pandering.

Well we can't debate that without getting into spoilers

Without spoilers, it's very clear to whom they catered.

The... fans?

[Rivercurse]

People always complain 10x louder than they would praise.

The demo was great.
Bioware are great.
ME3 is going to be great.

Relax.

[Labrev]

Saphra Deden wrote...


The worst of ME3 is a deluge of bad ideas and fan pandering.

Nope, the plot's all-time-low belongs to ME2: Shepard dies, and comes back to life. And most of ME3's lows are just a side-effect of this terrible bridge.

Cerberus's crowning achievement, but not remotely possible by any stretch of science. At least the lore supports TIM's fate, and brings them back down to Earth too after their uncharacteristic ME2 success.

[android654]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

android654 wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

For all the due criticism and such, I can still say confidently and unequivocally that ME3 is better than ME2, which while enjoyable, was a very mediocre story when it came down to it. The worst of ME3 isn't worse than that of ME2 either.

Actually it is a lot worst.

The worst parts of ME2 are Horizon, the planning of the Suicide Mission, and the Collector/Prothean connection. So we have two plot-holes and a plot-twist that falls flat.

The worst of ME3 is a deluge of bad ideas and fan pandering.

Well we can't debate that without getting into spoilers

Without spoilers, it's very clear to whom they catered.

Oh really?

Just look at the official information that has been released and the demo itself.

[KotorEffect3]

android654 wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

android654 wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

For all the due criticism and such, I can still say confidently and unequivocally that ME3 is better than ME2, which while enjoyable, was a very mediocre story when it came down to it. The worst of ME3 isn't worse than that of ME2 either.

Actually it is a lot worst.

The worst parts of ME2 are Horizon, the planning of the Suicide Mission, and the Collector/Prothean connection. So we have two plot-holes and a plot-twist that falls flat.

The worst of ME3 is a deluge of bad ideas and fan pandering.

Well we can't debate that without getting into spoilers

Without spoilers, it's very clear to whom they catered.

Oh really?

Just look at the official information that has been released and the demo itself.

And tell me who did they cater to?  Not you?

[JeffZero]

Rest of the internet finds BSN's overall behavior deplorable for good reason. I can't go on GameFAQs and talk about my day on BSN without at least a dozen "lmao bsn" remarks.

[CuseGirl]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

CuseGirl wrote...

Limited Miranda Lawson, while Tali/Garrus/VS is permanent squaddie and no choice for Shep to say "this is who I want to work with"

Actually, all the squadmates you just listed off are optional. Liara and Vega are the ones you should be thinking of.

They're only optional in the sense that I have to orchestrate their deaths in ME-2 to keep them off my squad in ME-3. From a gameplay standpoint, Garrus is useful and Miranda might have been the most useful squadmate in the game. I'm pretty sure there won't be a MAJOR shift in the type of enemies we encounter in ME-3, so really Tali's usefulness to me is next to nil. From a story standpoint, I would want Miranda with telling me how Cerberus works, their tactics, where they're likely to strike, maybe even "If I know one thing about TiM it's __insert thing that bad guys do here___". Miranda doesn't have a whole bunch of people who want stuff done for them before they come help out against the Reapers. Tali does and that pisses me off. 

As for Liara and Vega? The Vega thing is for newcomers, that's fine and I'm assuming he's latino? That's cute, let them get one of their own :shrugs: Liara is basically abandoning her job as Shadow Broker? So why write that whole DLC? As a matter of fact, it seems like almost all of ME-2's DLC is pointless. Dare I bring up old *ish, what was in Kasumi's Greybox?

Modifié par CuseGirl, 17 février 2012 - 01:46 .

[Jaron Oberyn]

Two words: auto dialogue

That's all.


-Polite

[KBomb]

I’m not too concerned with gameplay. There were some meh moments in the demo, but I am hoping they will be ironed out in the finished product. I am more concerned with the major choices that we made in the first two games being overlooked in the last one. I am concerned that even though they claimed the leak was an old script and not indicative to the released product is a PR ploy, because according to some interviews and articles--it seems very parallel with the leak. I am trying to keep an open mind about it, but it is what it is. I am willing to wait and see how the final product turns out before I make a determination on it. I am sure there are a lot of people doing the same.


As far as the “haters”, it’s become a word thrown down the same as “troll”. It’s being used as a ladder in which people can climb upon their soapboxes and look down at anyone who isn’t a card carrying member of the “I love this game and so should everyone else club.” If you comment on something you don’t like: You’re a hater. Disagree with someone who is singing ME3’s praises: You’re a troll. If you say you’re displeased with how the game is going: then leave the forums! There are people who are caustic just for the fun of it, but being a sycophant is just as annoying and I would say there are more of those floating around than any tried and true troll.