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Why is there so much hate for mass effect 3?


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#251
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People like to complain.

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Confused-Shepard wrote...

Because everyone had their own idea how Mass Effect 3 should begin


I had this weird idea that ingame animations would be of same quality as in ME2, not much worse.
Silly me.

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Limited Miranda Lawson, while Tali/Garrus/VS is permanent squaddie and no choice for Shep to say "this is who I want to work with"

Actually, all the squadmates you just listed off are optional. Liara and Vega are the ones you should be thinking of.


They're only optional in the sense that I have to orchestrate their deaths in ME-2 to keep them off my squad in ME-3. From a gameplay standpoint, Garrus is useful and Miranda might have been the most useful squadmate in the game. I'm pretty sure there won't be a MAJOR shift in the type of enemies we encounter in ME-3, so really Tali's usefulness to me is next to nil. From a story standpoint, I would want Miranda with telling me how Cerberus works, their tactics, where they're likely to strike, maybe even "If I know one thing about TiM it's __insert thing that bad guys do here___". Miranda doesn't have a whole bunch of people who want stuff done for them before they come help out against the Reapers. Tali does and that pisses me off. 

As for Liara and Vega? The Vega thing is for newcomers, that's fine and I'm assuming he's latino? That's cute, let them get one of their own :shrugs: Liara is basically abandoning her job as Shadow Broker? So why write that whole DLC? As a matter of fact, it seems like almost all of ME-2's DLC is pointless. Dare I bring up old *ish, what was in Kasumi's Greybox?



Just because she is one the squad doesn't mean she stops being the Shadow Broker.  In fact she will probably be in constant contact with her SB network and she will feed intel to Shepard.  Hardly useless I would say.

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Mettyx wrote...

Confused-Shepard wrote...

Because everyone had their own idea how Mass Effect 3 should begin


I had this weird idea that ingame animations would be of same quality as in ME2, not much worse.
Silly me.



Are you going to talk about anything else other than animations and graphics?  There are things way more important to a game than that kind of stuff.

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Mettyx wrote...

Confused-Shepard wrote...

Because everyone had their own idea how Mass Effect 3 should begin


I had this weird idea that ingame animations would be of same quality as in ME2, not much worse.
Silly me.

You should play ME2 again, and register. You do own a copy right?

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whoops.

Modifié par lobi, 17 février 2012 - 01:52 .


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Because Casey is really upset with the players.

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Vez04 wrote...

Because BSN likes to nit pick on everything BioWare releases, they can never be satisfied.


Every official game forum I've visited have been like this for their respective games. Seems people just like to ****.

Modifié par barenas, 17 février 2012 - 01:53 .


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I am definitely worried about bioware in general, and although I did have fun with the gameplay aspect of the demo the writing and other issues has me worried.

Bioware still has plenty of "credit" with me for the glorious early years of my gaming life, but I definitely am worried about my favorite gaming company and my favorite game series.

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Just to say why I personally hate Mass Effect 3, I'll tell you. I most certainly did not hate Mass Effect 3 until the demo was released, but I like many saw many warning signs that I either chose not to believe or to somehow justify them away. Warning signs like multiplayer, Ashley's new appearance, questionable voice actor choices and changes of original VA's, the fourth novel (Mass Effect: Deception), and the whole "Take Back Earth" overabundance. The earliest time I thought something was wrong was when the devs kept saying "Mass Effect 3 is a great place for new players to start!" It made it feel like they were saying the first two games aren't important to the plot, you can forget about those entirely. If you played those, great, you'll get an easter egg here and there, but if you didn't, you're not missing anything. Then a dev comes on and suggests we DON'T import an ME1/2 save game for ME3 the first time. I understand what he's saying, but I think there's more to it. It seems to again be saying the first two games were trivial.

To the demo itself, I find myself agreeing with the people that said the intro was poorly done. A dev doesn't understand what the person in another thread was upset about over the lack of a trial? Has anyone played Neverwinter Nights 2? The trial before the court of Neverwinter was one of the high points of the game, and if ME3 captured that same spirit of seeing my guy wrongly accused and all the witnesses testifying both for and against me, to have to defend the very nature of my character, then it would have been great. The whole child dying thing was a great concept, but was badly done. The music at the end was absolutely fantastic, too bad the runup couldn't justify it. Sur'Kesh, I understand the dialogue was cut from it, but Mordin sounds odd, Wrex's line to Liara, it felt so strange.

Point is, I've been with Bioware since Baldur's Gate. I loved Neverwinter Nights, Dragon Age: Origins is my all time favorite game, and I wanted to love Dragon Age II as well. Yes, I did cancel my pre-order for ME3. Will I buy it later? If I am convinced that players like me do not believe it was a repeat of all Dragon Age II did wrong, then I will strongly consider it. But I am not willing to endorse the game fully with a pre-order. I am not a troll, I just want Bioware to consider my opinion and know that I respect and admire their previous work, and I will be the first in line to buy a product at the level of Neverwinter Nights or DA:O. But I will not blindly follow and purchase what I believe to be a flawed product.

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KotorEffect3 wrote...


Are you going to talk about anything else other than animations and graphics?  There are things way more important to a game than that kind of stuff.


Damn strait, who cares about animations and graphics in a videogame. Screw animations and graphics. What IS important to talk about is how the romance with Vega is. THAT LADIES AND GENTLER MEN, THAT IS WHATS IMPORTANT.



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Modifié par Guldhun2, 17 février 2012 - 01:56 .


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And this is why I don't care what anyone thinks about a game. I'll play it and make my own mind up. Thank you.

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Strephon Gentry wrote...

And this is why I don't care what anyone thinks about a game. I'll play it and make my own mind up. Thank you.


Is that before, or after you give them 60 dollaros or euros.

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Guldhun2 wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...


Are you going to talk about anything else other than animations and graphics?  There are things way more important to a game than that kind of stuff.


Damn strait, who cares about animations and graphics in a videogame. Screw animations and graphics. What IS important to talk about is how the romance with Vega is. THAT LADIES AND GENTLER MEN, THAT IS WHATS IMPORTANT.

Straw man.

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Cthulhu42 wrote...
Straw man.



No, that's sarcasm.

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I haven't seen any sold-out CE coming back in stock, so I think the threat of CE cancellation sounds a lot worse than it actually is. Regular edition... Well, this being a single player oriented game, it can't hurt to wait for reviews to come out before buying.

I don't think there is much hate for ME3, some no doubt, but not the majority. There is a lot of frustration over certain elements of the demo, most of it story and graphics, but those will pass in time. I am confident the story fo the whole game is much better once you get into it, and BW can always release texture patches to improve the graphics.

Modifié par Unfallen_Satan, 17 février 2012 - 02:01 .


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Guldhun2 wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...
Straw man.



No, that's sarcasm.

It's both.

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The demo was fine for a demo. PC did not crash and Shep did not climb a table so I am happy enough.
You will pay the same price that me2 cost on release.
Actually, I paid $30au less than last time with the pre-order.
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Modifié par lobi, 17 février 2012 - 02:02 .


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Guldhun2 wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...


Are you going to talk about anything else other than animations and graphics?  There are things way more important to a game than that kind of stuff.


Damn strait, who cares about animations and graphics in a videogame. Screw animations and graphics. What IS important to talk about is how the romance with Vega is. THAT LADIES AND GENTLER MEN, THAT IS WHATS IMPORTANT.



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*facepalm*  Point, not getting it

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Anderson's new Freddy Krueger hands are creepy. Why did Bioware turn him into a rotting zombie? They should have went all the way and made him a Husk if they were gonna do that to him

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Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

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The worst of ME3 is a deluge of bad ideas and fan pandering.


Nope, the plot's all-time-low belongs to ME2: Shepard dies, and comes back to life. And most of ME3's lows are just a side-effect of this terrible bridge.

Cerberus's crowning achievement, but not remotely possible by any stretch of science. At least the lore supports TIM's fate, and brings them back down to Earth too after their uncharacteristic ME2 success.



And adding to this, you can't seriously tell me that ME2's irrelevance-driven plot is better than that of ME3, where the player now - finally - addresses issues of relevance/importance to the whole galaxy. Oh, and fights the actual enemy, and an actual war.

Compare that to ME2 which revolved around recruitment of Shepard's personal freak show and counseling said freaks with their daddy issues. Even if the player did the bare minimum of recruitment/loyalty missions over the course of the game, this still made up for 65% of the story (11 missions out of a required 17).

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

Mettyx wrote...

Confused-Shepard wrote...

Because everyone had their own idea how Mass Effect 3 should begin


I had this weird idea that ingame animations would be of same quality as in ME2, not much worse.
Silly me.



Are you going to talk about anything else other than animations and graphics?  There are things way more important to a game than that kind of stuff.


Pretty much, since animations are so horrible now that they constantly detract me from actually playing the game.
Its what you call a "gamebreaking" thing. If this is not fixed I wont even play ME3.

P.S.
I would much rather have superb animations of Shepard like in ME1 than good graphics. Graphics can get easily outdated but superb animations can never get outdated. Obviously.

P.P.S.
I played both ME1 and ME2 last month so I know how horrible animations in ME3 are.

Modifié par Mettyx, 17 février 2012 - 02:04 .


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Had to say this just to cheer things up.


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Mettyx wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Mettyx wrote...

Confused-Shepard wrote...

Because everyone had their own idea how Mass Effect 3 should begin


I had this weird idea that ingame animations would be of same quality as in ME2, not much worse.
Silly me.



Are you going to talk about anything else other than animations and graphics?  There are things way more important to a game than that kind of stuff.


Pretty much, since animations are so horrible now that they constantly detract me from actually playing the game.
Its what you call a "gamebreaking" thing. If this is not fixed I wont even play ME3.

P.S.
I would much rather have superb animations of Shepard like in ME1 than good graphics. Graphics can get easily outdated but superb animations can never get outdated. Obviously.

P.P.S.
I played both ME1 and ME2 last month so I know how horrible animations in ME3 are.

re: PPS Register the game if you want to be taken almost serious.
Nah actually forget it. I also played both recently as I have quite a few occasions since release and animations are no worse. I will never take you serious.
Now go to school, your worrying your parents.

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Hate and love are two sides of the same coin. The BSN is like an abusive spouse:

"Why do you make us hit you?!"